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For some lottery winners jackpot is a 'nightmare'

For some lottery winners jackpot is a 'nightmare'

Posted: 11/17/2004 10:40:38 AM

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Winning the lottery turned life into a nightmare

For a lot of people, winning the lottery is the American dream. But some say the reality is more like a nightmare.

"Winning the lottery isn't always what it's cracked up to be," says Evelyn Adams, who won the New Jersey lottery not just once but twice (1985, 1986) to the tune of $5.4 million. Today the money is all gone and Adams lives in a trailer.

"I won the American dream but I lost it, too. It was a very hard fall. It's called rock bottom," says Adams.

"Everybody wanted my money. Everybody had their hand out. I never learned one simple word in the English language -- 'No.' I wish I had the chance to do it all over again. I'd be much smarter about it now," says Adams who also lost money at the slot machines in Atlantic City.

"I was a big time gambler," admits Adams. "I didn't drop a million dollars, but it was a lot of money. I made mistakes, some I regret, some I don't. I'm human. I can't go back now so I just go forward, one step at a time."

Living on food stamps

William "Bud" Post won $16.2 million in the Pennsylvania lottery in 1988 but now lives on his Social Security.

"I wish it never happened. It was totally a nightmare," says Post.

A former girlfriend successfully sued him for a share of his winnings. It wasn't his only lawsuit. A brother was arrested for hiring a hit man to kill him, hoping to inherit a share of the winnings. Other siblings pestered him until he agreed to invest in a car business and a restaurant in Sarasota, Fla., -- two ventures that brought no money back and further strained his relationship with his siblings.

Post even spent time in jail for firing a gun over the head of a bill collector.

Within a year, he was $1 million in debt.

Post admitted he was both careless and foolish, trying to please his family. He dventually declared bankruptcy.

Now he lives quietly on $450 a month and food stamps.

"I'm tired, I'm over 65 years old, and I just had a serious operation for a heart aneurysm. Lotteries don't mean [anything] to me," says Post.

Deeper in debt

Suzanne Mullins won $4.2 million in the Virginia lottery in 1993. Now she's deeply in debt to a company that lent her money using the winnings as collateral.

She borrowed $197,746.15, which she agreed to pay back with her yearly checks from the Virginia lottery through 2006. But, when the rules changed allowing her to collect her winnings in a lump sum, she cashed in the remaining amount. But, she stopped making payments on the loan.

She blamed the debt on the lengthy illness of her uninsured son-in-law who needed $1 million for medical bills.

Mark Kidd, the Roanoke, Va., lawyer who represented the Singer Asset Finance Company who sued Mullins, confirms. He won a judgment for the company against Mullins for $154,147 last May, but they have yet to collect a nickel.

"My understanding is she has no assets," says Kidd.

Back to the basics

Ken Proxmire was a machinist when he won $1 million in the Michigan lottery. He moved to California, went into the car business with his brothers and within five years, Ken had filed for bankruptcy.

"He was just a poor boy who got lucky and wanted to take care of everybody," explains Ken's son Rick.

"It was a hell of a good ride for three or four years, but now he lives more simply. There's no more talk of owning a helicopter or riding in limos. We're just everyday folk. Dad's now back to work as a machinist," says his son.

Willie Hurt of Lansing, Mich., won $3.1 million in 1989. Two years later he was broke and charged with murder. His lawyer says Hurt spent his fortune on a divorce and crack cocaine.

Charles Riddle of Belleville, Mich., won $1 million in 1975. Afterward, he got divorced, faced several lawsuits and was indicted for selling cocaine.

Missourian Janite Lee won $18 million in 1993. Lee was generous to a variety of causes, particularly politics, education and the community. But according to published reports, eight years after winning, Lee had filed for bankruptcy with only $700 left in two bank accounts and no cash on hand.

One Southeastern family won $4.2 million in the early '90s. They bought a huge house and succumbed to repeated family requests for help in paying off debts.

The house, cars and relatives ate the whole pot. Eleven years later, the couple is divorcing, the house is sold, and they have to split what is left of the lottery proceeds. The wife got a very small house and the husband has moved in with the kids. Even the life insurance they bought ended up getting cashed in.

"It was not the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow," says their financial advisor.

Luck is fleeting

These sad-but-true tales are not uncommon, say the experts.

"For many people, sudden money can cause disaster," says Susan Bradley, a certified financial planner in Palm Beach, Fla., and founder of the Sudden Money Institute, a resource center for new money recipients and their advisors.

"In our culture, there is a widely held belief that money solves problems. People think if they had more money, their troubles would be over. When a family receives sudden money, they frequently learn that money can cause as many problems as it solves," she says.

Craig Wallace, a senior funding officer for a company that buys lottery annuity payments in exchange for lump sums, agrees.

"Going broke is a common malady, particularly with the smaller winners. Say you've won $1 million. What you've really won is a promise to be paid $50,000 a year. People win and they think they're millionaires. They go out and buy houses and cars and before they know it, they're in way over their heads," he says.

Are you really a 'millionaire'?

Part of the problem is that the winners buy into the hype.

"These people believe they are millionaires. They buy into the hype, but most of these people will go to their graves without ever becoming a millionaire," says Wallace, who has been in the business for almost a decade.

"In New Jersey, they manipulate the reality of the situation to sell more tickets. Each winner takes a picture with a check that becomes a 3-foot by 5-foot stand-up card. The winner is photographed standing next to a beautiful woman and the caption reads: 'New Jersey's newest millionaire.'"

Winning plays a game with your head

Bradley, who authored "Sudden Money: Managing a Financial Windfall," says winners get into trouble because they fail to address the emotional connection to the windfall.

"There are two sides to money. The interior side is the psychology of money and the family relationship to money. The exterior side is the tax codes, the money allocation, etc."

"The goal is to integrate the two. People who can't integrate their interior relationship with money appropriately are more likely to crash and burn," says Bradley.

"Often they can keep the money and lose family and friends -- or lose the money and keep the family and friends -- or even lose the money and lose the family and friends."

Bill Pomeroy, a certified financial planner in Baton Rouge, La., has dealt with a number of lottery winners who went broke.

"Because the winners have a large sum of money, they make the mistake of thinking they know what they're doing. They are willing to plunk down large sums on investments they know nothing about or go in with a partner who may not know how to run a business."

What if you get so (un)lucky?

To offset some bad early-decision making and the inevitable requests of friends, relatives and strangers, Bradley recommends lottery winners start by setting up a DFZ or decision-free zone.

"Take time out from making any financial decisions," she says. "Do this right away. For some people, it's smart to do it before you even get your hands on the money.

"People who are not used to having money are fragile and vulnerable, and there are plenty of people out there who are willing to prey on that vulnerability -- even friends and family," she cautions.

"It's not a time to decide what stocks to buy or jump into a new house purchase or new business venture.

"It's a time to think things through, sort things out and seek an advisory team to help make those important financial choices."

As an example, Bradley says that on a list on 12 things people who come into a windfall will spend money on, buying a house is at the top of the list while investing is number 11.

"You really don't want to buy a new house before taking the time to think about what the consequences are.

"A lot of people who don't have money don't realize how much it costs to live in a big house -- decorators, furniture, taxes, insurance, even utility costs are greater. People need a reality check before they sign the contract," she says.

Evelyn Adams, the N.J. lottery double-winner, learned these lessons the hard way.

"There are a lot of people out there like me who don't know how to deal with money," laments Adams. "Hey, some people went broke in six months. At least I held on for a few years."

Source: Lottery Post Staff

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Posted: November 17, 2004, 11:42 am - IP Logged Bottom Top

Luck and total incompetence are the two things all these people have in common. Most lotteries advise winners to seek financial counselling from the outset. These people are ignorant and it is clear they never had any notion of financial discipline long before their wins. If they did they wouldn't have gone crazy when they were lucky enough to win. No one should have any sympathy for them. When people say money is a curse they speak only of their OWN inability to handle it.

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Everyone should have a copy of this article so that if you do win, you can hand it out to family and friends when you say "no" to their requests.

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Not being the brightest bulb in the pack. I hope should lady luck ever shine on me that I have a simple plan in place. 1 would be to contact my lawyer and financial planner ( both of whom I do know and trust) 2 I have little need for phone (other than one does need one for verification purposes) I would cancel my land-line and just go with my wireless ( only a handful of people know this number) Not being one who is wanting any media coverage I would set up a trust(things get a little fuzzy here as I am unsure of just how a trust would work and not something I need worry about unless I would win then I would know ) My needs are very simple as I would only want very little a nice (not huge) home somewhere down in a warmer climate. I would want to set up a federal tax exempt Municipal bonds Acct. enough to keep the wolves away. And I like that fellow who won a few weeks ago would have no problems telling those who came to me wanting a handout telling them they wanted nothing to do with me before now that I have a few bucks you come go to h E double toothpicks. I do have a few friends and family members that I would dole out the 11k allowed but other than that nothing much would change. I don't play when the lotto gets large ( again my needs and wants are simple) but the media feeding frenzy is just to overwhelming when it gets high. I have no real expectations of ever winning but "hope springs eternal" just the same. The odds are so much against one "hitting the big one" We had a hard luck story around here about twenty years ago a very nice person hit for 5 mil. this was before the days of lump sum. It took him and his then fiancée later wife and then later ex-wife about 3 years to go though it. They did  all the wrong things bought a huge home even paid more than the market value was just to be able to have this home. They later opened a restaurant ( a sure failure) and later still a bar both of which went under. they borrowed on the future payout and lost it all. Hopefully I would be able not to fall into this trap and be able to slip away like a thief in the dark of night and barely leave a ripple.


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Money does solve your problems (FINANCIAL)if it's used responsibly and properly,I've read just as many "GOOD" stories about lottery winners as "BAD".I've always been responsible with money since being in the Military in my early 20's so a "JACKPOT" win would be very easy for me to handle considering that I've already made plans on how to use and manage the money.People who were never responsible with money are the cause of there problems not the money.If you gave 2 people 1 million dollars and in 5 yrs only one of them had any money left

then it's quite obvious one of them made some mistakes and was irresponsible while the other one managed his money the right way.


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Oh by the way when I got out of the Military in 1990 I had $10,000 saved that I lived off of for about 2 yrs.

so if I just had $1 million dollars I could make it work for me and live off it for 5 yrs or more easily.

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some people just let money go to their heads.

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I agree that these people were probably not the most responsible BEFORE they won the money.



My husband and I also have a detailed plan of what we'd do should we win - first being contact our financial advisor and create a trust and don't tell ANYONE that we won. Not   a single soul.

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Quote: Originally posted by Phokas on November 17, 2004



Luck and total incompetence are the two things all these people have in common. Most lotteries advise winners to seek financial counselling from the outset. These people are ignorant and it is clear they never had any notion of financial discipline long before their wins. If they did they wouldn't have gone crazy when they were lucky enough to win. No one should have any sympathy for them. When people say money is a curse they speak only of their OWN inability to handle it.




.  Well put.