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Charlotte wants limits on N.C. lottery sales
Charlotte wants limits on N.C. lottery salesPosted: 10/26/2005 12:33:00 PM  Charlotte leaders have asked North Carolina's new lottery commission to approve unusual rules that would limit ticket sales in "fragile" neighborhoods.
In a letter sent to commission members, city attorney Mac McCarley asked them to get feedback from local governments before determining whether ticket outlets are appropriate in certain areas.
He also asked that lottery outlets be at least 50 feet from a church or school.
"We don't want any business to become a magnet for trouble in the neighborhoods we've identified as fragile and threatened," McCarley said.
He said the city believes the most crucial factor is that stores be required to sell more than just tickets and alcohol, with at least half of sales coming from other items.
The suggested rules, which mirror those governing North Carolina's beer and wine sales, would be unusual for a state lottery, said officials with two national trade groups. In South Carolina, for example, lottery tickets can be sold anywhere except on college campuses, at rest areas and in some types of check-cashing outlets.
"Lottery ticket sales don't usually cause those kinds of issues or concerns," said Chuck Strutt, executive director of multi-state lottery commission.
The N.C. lottery commission meets today to start discussing what restrictions — if any — it should place on retail outlets.
Several commissioners this week said they liked Charlotte's ideas and plan to consider them.
Commission member Kevin Geddings of Charlotte noted that it would be an easy system to implement quickly because it's tried and proven.
Lottery Recommendations
When choosing lottery outlets, Charlotte officials asked the lottery commission to consider:
- The number of places already selling tickets in the neighborhood.
- Parking and traffic conditions.
- The kinds of businesses in the neighborhood.
- Whether it's within 50 feet of a church or school.
- Whether the building complies with building and fire codes.
- The reputation, character and criminal record of the retailer.
- Recommendations of the local governing body.
- Zoning laws.
The city also recommended that:
Source: Charlotte Observer
United States Member #12856 March 18, 2005 2060 Posts Offline |
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How will these actions stop "fragile" people from buying lotto tickets? I think if someone is determined to buy a ticket they will find a store.  Dance like no one is watching.
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Atlantic Mine, Michigan United States Member #417 June 23, 2002 1531 Posts Offline |
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Oh my gosh I can't believe what I just read. Those people down in North Carolina are the weirdest and most unusual people are think I ever heard of before. I can't believe they would even attempt to do anything like this. You can definetly tell NC must be a true crazy red state.
Brad
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Charlotte NC United States Member #17704 June 18, 2005 3274 Posts Offline |
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 It's racial. I'm a native Charlottean. I'm not the type of person who would use the race card out of ignorance. 95% of convienient stores owners in this city are of ethnic orgin from other countries and are located in "fragile neighborhoods. They are on almost every corner, like the churches. No kidding, there is a church on almost every corner. Guess where the most churches are located?......in "fragile neighborhoods"
I'm ashame of the leaders in this city.
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New Member NC United States Member #13578 April 3, 2005 13 Posts Offline |
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Sparta, NJ United States Member #18644 July 9, 2005 1977 Posts Offline |
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You get what you vote for - in some cases, what you fail to vote for. You can change representatives; used to be women couldn't vote. Getting rid of a half dozen men should be comparatively easy! 
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I only trust myself - and that's a questionable choice
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mid-Ohio United States Member #9 March 24, 2001 9249 Posts Offline |
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North Carolina leaders aren't ignorant, just misguided.
Some years ago Ohio had some misguided people that convinced the State that the chance to to win large lottery jackpots was a bad thing and the State for a few months adopted a law that limited the amount that one lottery ticket could win to $20M annuity. At the time people from the surrounding states played the Ohio lottery and jackpots of $40M-$70M were common. After that, the jackpot amounts were lucky to reach $15M and the law was eliminated and Ohio never recovered. Ohio learned people liked big lottery jackpots and they would travel to buy tickets.
In 2002 Ohio added the MegaMillions to keep lottery players in the state from traveling out of state to play the PowerBall and BigGame lotteries in adjacent states. North Carolina will learn that if people can't buy lottery tickets in their neighborhood they will go to the ones that sell them. * Trying is the first step toward failure *
homer J. Simpson
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Charlotte North Carolina United States Member #466 July 9, 2002 7810 Posts Offline |
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You are correct Chewie, however, when these people were voted in, there was not a option for the lottery. Now they are in office and making decisions that can not be changed later.
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Sparta, NJ United States Member #18644 July 9, 2005 1977 Posts Offline |
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It is more difficult, but not impossible, to change laws. They said Concealed Carry laws would never happen; most of the states now have that law. If you can talk politicians into allowing citizens to carry firearms, you can get any law changed. You just have to be smarter then a politician, I'm not seeing that as a problem in NC.
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I only trust myself - and that's a questionable choice
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Charlotte NC United States Member #17704 June 18, 2005 3274 Posts Offline |
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North Carolina leaders aren't ignorant, just misguided.
Some years ago Ohio had some misguided people that convinced the State that the chance to to win large lottery jackpots was a bad thing and the State for a few months adopted a law that limited the amount that one lottery ticket could win to $20M annuity. At the time people from the surrounding states played the Ohio lottery and jackpots of $40M-$70M were common. After that, the jackpot amounts were lucky to reach $15M and the law was eliminated and Ohio never recovered. Ohio learned people liked big lottery jackpots and they would travel to buy tickets.
In 2002 Ohio added the MegaMillions to keep lottery players in the state from traveling out of state to play the PowerBall and BigGame lotteries in adjacent states. North Carolina will learn that if people can't buy lottery tickets in their neighborhood they will go to the ones that sell them.
 North Carolina will learn that if people can't buy lottery tickets in their neighborhood they will go to the ones that sell them.
That's the point. HELLO! The money won't be going to low income neighborhood store owners. The money will be going to "less fragile neighborhoods"
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