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Eastern Time (GMT-5:00) | Home -> Forums -> Lottery News -> Thieves uncover hole in Okla. lottery planning Thieves uncover hole in Okla. lottery planning Oklahoma Lottery: Thieves uncover hole in Okla. lottery planningA flaw in security allowed thieves to steal lottery tickets from an Oklahoma store and redeem them before lottery officials could deactivate the ticket identification codes. The Oklahoma Lottery Commission says it will soon hire "security people" working beyond the regular hours of the commission office to prevent stolen lottery tickets from being cashed. Last Tuesday thieves robbed a Norman convenience store of its supply of tickets about 5 a.m.. The store owner said she tried to call the commission right away so it could deactivate the tickets, but she said no one was answering the phone. Lottery Director James Scroggins acknowledged the office wasn't staffed at night and that "we do need a mechanism to notify Scientific Games (the state's provider of lottery games) immediately." Gov. Brad Henry promised Oklahomans when he proposed the lottery that it would be done properly. The lottery commission's first misstep was when they failed to restrict lottery ticket sales from pawn shops and payday check cashers. The commission board corrected that after the lottery began Oct. 12. Now the security hole brings another error to light, as the lottery does not have sufficient security people in place to prevent stolen tickets from being cashed, something that most, if not all, state lotteries put in place before the lottery begins ticket sales. The thieves would have been limited in the amount they could have collected from the stolen tickets because prizes of more than $600 require collection from the commission office. Also, a lottery ticket vendor may have been suspicious of someone trying to redeem many tickets at once. The thieves probably did not profit a great deal from the stolen tickets, and they were deactivated once the commission office was opened and notified. The oversight or delay raises issues as to the overall planning of the lottery, as well as the budgetary planning process that was employed. Scroggins, who came to Oklahoma after 13 years with the Missouri lottery, received a $25,000 bonus for getting the instant lottery ticket sales going by October. Lottery Post Staff We'd love to see your comments here! Register for a FREE membership — it takes just a few moments — and you'll be able to post comments here and on any of our forums. If you're already a member, you can Log In to post a comment. 8 comments. Last comment 7 years ago by . United States Member #12856 March 18, 2005 2060 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 1, 2005, 11:59 am - IP Logged | |
Well at least they deactivated the tickets so if these theives had won they wouldn't be able to collect.  Dance like no one is watching.
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Sparta, NJ United States Member #18644 July 9, 2005 1977 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 1, 2005, 12:40 pm - IP Logged | |
Obviously, they didn't award the bonus for exceptional directorship or planning ability. 13+ years in the business and never considered after hours theft. Thank the gods he never led a combat unit. How do I know he never led one? He is still alve! 
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Maybe Oklahoma should have started its lottery later rather than "Sooner". But I'm glad to have been there on opening day, even though I lost $5. | | |
oklahoma United States Member #12548 March 10, 2005 165 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 1, 2005, 9:20 pm - IP Logged | |
I Wonder If there was really that many Winners in all those scratchers to matter....The most I have won out of a handful was $4.00. Hopefully After a while there will be more or a choice of different scratchers, if you like that sort of game. I'm holding out for some Lotto ..and powerball pick 3 etc. Haven't heard anything on what type of Lotto we will have. Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!! 
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Tennessee United States Member #3664 February 3, 2004 13 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 1, 2005, 9:30 pm - IP Logged | |
I am a lottery retailer in TN, and we didn't have 24-hour on-call security people until after the first few cases of stolen tickets. It may make for bad PR, but it really isn't worth the expense of staffing the phones 24-365 for the limited chance of stolen tickets being validated. Plus, in the one instance of stolen tickets that I am familiar with, the lottery intentionally allowed a pack of stolen tickets to remain activated so that the thieves would go all across the county cashing in tickets, and it wasn't long before they went somewhere with a really good camera system, and were easily identified and arrested. Of course, like most other state lotteries, the retailers learned all of this the hard way. It is frustrating when they stress during training for us to immediately report stolen tickets, and then you find out security works banker's hours. | | |
Sparta, NJ United States Member #18644 July 9, 2005 1977 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 1, 2005, 9:53 pm - IP Logged | |
I am a lottery retailer in TN, and we didn't have 24-hour on-call security people until after the first few cases of stolen tickets. It may make for bad PR, but it really isn't worth the expense of staffing the phones 24-365 for the limited chance of stolen tickets being validated. Plus, in the one instance of stolen tickets that I am familiar with, the lottery intentionally allowed a pack of stolen tickets to remain activated so that the thieves would go all across the county cashing in tickets, and it wasn't long before they went somewhere with a really good camera system, and were easily identified and arrested. Of course, like most other state lotteries, the retailers learned all of this the hard way. It is frustrating when they stress during training for us to immediately report stolen tickets, and then you find out security works banker's hours. Security is never worth the expense until you have been robbed. Quality is never worth the expense until tires start falling off the wheels. SATs were never worth it until students could not fill out an enterance exam. Carrying a cell phone is never worth the expense until the car breaks down on a dark road in a high crime area. Stocking canned food and bottled water is never worth it, until there is none available - like after a hurricane; or a terrorist attack. Any excuse is a good excuse. The problem: They are only excuses for incompetence!
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I am a lottery retailer in TN, and we didn't have 24-hour on-call security people until after the first few cases of stolen tickets. It may make for bad PR, but it really isn't worth the expense of staffing the phones 24-365 for the limited chance of stolen tickets being validated. Plus, in the one instance of stolen tickets that I am familiar with, the lottery intentionally allowed a pack of stolen tickets to remain activated so that the thieves would go all across the county cashing in tickets, and it wasn't long before they went somewhere with a really good camera system, and were easily identified and arrested. Of course, like most other state lotteries, the retailers learned all of this the hard way. It is frustrating when they stress during training for us to immediately report stolen tickets, and then you find out security works banker's hours. Security is never worth the expense until you have been robbed. Quality is never worth the expense until tires start falling off the wheels. SATs were never worth it until students could not fill out an enterance exam. Carrying a cell phone is never worth the expense until the car breaks down on a dark road in a high crime area. Stocking canned food and bottled water is never worth it, until there is none available - like after a hurricane; or a terrorist attack. Any excuse is a good excuse. The problem: They are only excuses for incompetence! Many times we learn when it's too late. The same probably will happen with NC. | | |
Northern California United States Member #20270 August 9, 2005 145 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 2, 2005, 11:42 am - IP Logged | |
When you're just starting up, this kind of flap is simply unconscionable. Part of it is a lack of PR management - "we haven't hired security people yet"??? Are you kidding me? A lottery's biggest asset is its integrity - I certainly thought Scroggins was smarter than this but now I have real doubts. On the other hand, I doubt the store even knew they were strolen at 5 a.m. | | |
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