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US House on the brink of taking away online gambling rights
Forest Park, Georgia United States Member #8966 November 17, 2004 1029 Posts Offline
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This bill is up for debate on CSPAN1 right now. It would appear that it's passage in the House is considered a done deal, since Democrats (....praise those who truly care about America's working men and women!!....) have been using their rare opportunity for extended floor time to argue for an "up or down" vote on increasing the minimum wage, for the first time in 9 years. Let's hope the waste-of-legislator's-time internet gambling bill dies in the Senate. >Peach
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Atlanta, GA United States Member #1288 March 13, 2003 2632 Posts Offline
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Has anyone considered this may be a diversionary technique to draw our attention away from the real issue which is unfettered immigration (invasion), and implementing the treaty which combines Mexico, US and Canada into one large territory without borders???? Democrats overwhelmingly have voted FOR open borders and FOR amnesty as congressional votes have clearly demonstrated. A diversion is created when someone wants to slide something through that wouldn't be allowed under close scrutiny. Check my blog for this article from World Net Daily which is a superb source of accurate and well researched information. http://blogs.lotterypost.com/konane/2006/7/the-new-world-disorder.htm
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Columbia City, Indiana United States Member #3034 December 9, 2003 378 Posts Offline
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Whenever someone says, "It's not about the money," you can be assured of one thing: It's about the money. I am a registered Republican, but my party seems determined now to transform this country into the New-Age Nazi Germany. Come November, I'm casting my vote for an independent candidate. This is more effective than simply not voting, as it takes away a vote from each of the two choices we have. Not that it's much of a choice. "Do you want to elect this crook, or would you rather have this theif represent his own interests above yours for the next four years?" We're quickly headed for a two-class society; the upper class ensconced in gun turrets with high-powered rifles making sure the rest of us don't escape over the walls. America has a history of revolution to overthrow tryanny, and I'm afraid the next one is not far off. How much more do these people think we're going to take??? Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...
Jim
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Coastal Georgia United States Member #2703 October 30, 2003 1868 Posts Offline
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Whenever someone says, "It's not about the money," you can be assured of one thing: It's about the money. I am a registered Republican, but my party seems determined now to transform this country into the New-Age Nazi Germany. Come November, I'm casting my vote for an independent candidate. This is more effective than simply not voting, as it takes away a vote from each of the two choices we have. Not that it's much of a choice. "Do you want to elect this crook, or would you rather have this theif represent his own interests above yours for the next four years?" We're quickly headed for a two-class society; the upper class ensconced in gun turrets with high-powered rifles making sure the rest of us don't escape over the walls. America has a history of revolution to overthrow tryanny, and I'm afraid the next one is not far off. How much more do these people think we're going to take??? We can't take much more, that's for sure....
DD
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United States Member #33479 February 18, 2006 731 Posts Offline
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As I speak right now the bill is getting beat down pretty bad. With 5 minutes to go. The vote is 51 Nay and 20 yea on the 4410. That's a good sign.
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United States Member #33479 February 18, 2006 731 Posts Offline
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I bet it is just the casino lobby trying to protect their interests. I think it is a bunch of BS. If it does pass there will be many legal challenges. It seems a lot lately that the government of the US is really trying to restict the rights of the people. It is kind of actually scary....we need to get rid of the Republican majority in the fall before we lose anymore rights. Brad I agree.
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HOUSTON United States Member #1657 June 7, 2003 1089 Posts Offline
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HR 4411 is passing right now. Should we play that number while we can? This CNN Pipeline is great with no access to TV at work. You can watch these idiots at their work. Only those who attempt the absurd can achieve the impossible.
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NC United States Member #41782 June 15, 2006 27 Posts Offline
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Irregardless of what they do,we shall and will find a way to play if we want,my father has been dead for several yrs now and I'll be damned if they are going to take his place and tell me what I can spend my Us Dollar on. This is exactly what they want: to control what you do. The US government and the lobbyists who hang around Washington are extremely paternalistic. I agree with you, Saleo. Count me in as another grown adult who can decide what is in my own best interests. It's true, there will always be people who choose their pursuits regardless of what is written on the books in D.C.
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Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 17054 Posts Online
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I bet it is just the casino lobby trying to protect their interests. I think it is a bunch of BS. If it does pass there will be many legal challenges. It seems a lot lately that the government of the US is really trying to restict the rights of the people. It is kind of actually scary....we need to get rid of the Republican majority in the fall before we lose anymore rights. Brad Brad, I know that you're a big liberal, and you can't stand conservatives, but that is just an out right lie. In case you don't "get it", it is BOTH Democrats and Repblicans who are in on this stupid bill, and they are both to blame. In fact, the guy who wrote the biggest dissenting view is a Republican from Texas. I guess I'm just smart enough to know that there is a big difference between congress coming unhinged on this stupid bill, and something as fundemental as protecting our country by keeping the liberals in the minority.
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The Carolinas - Charlotte United States Member #21960 September 12, 2005 4104 Posts Offline
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I think that it won't pass anyway...the Senate is in no hurry to even table this stupid bill. The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots: 
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Prince of Insufficient Light Ruler of Heck United States Member #13375 March 30, 2005 1357 Posts Offline
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Can I get a moat and drawbridge with my gun turret and walls? In other news, my state is offering "lifetime" gun licenses. Pay $100 and give 'em your info. Anyone care to guess what's next? Can you say U.K. and Australia-style gun ban?
Modern "education" teaches a version of history so fictionalized, it should be followed by "TM"
They're warning me about Osama or whatever. Picture me buying the scam; I say "never!".
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NY United States Member #24178 October 16, 2005 1739 Posts Offline
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I bet it is just the casino lobby trying to protect their interests. I think it is a bunch of BS. If it does pass there will be many legal challenges. It seems a lot lately that the government of the US is really trying to restict the rights of the people. It is kind of actually scary....we need to get rid of the Republican majority in the fall before we lose anymore rights. Brad I disagree that it's the casino lobby protecting their interests. I know that it's close to the same thing, but I think it's politicians protecting their campaign contributions. As far as getting rid of the republicans, that's only half of the battle. There are about as many democrats, too. What we really need is a thorough house cleaning (the bad pun is unintended; the senate needs to go as well), and a voting population that's informed and doesn't just send the incumbents back to finance their nexyt campaign. Don't hold your breath, though. As far as court challenges, I think they've got a major 1st amendment problem with any plans to block access to gambling sites. They have the authority to regulate (which can include a complete ban) online gambling, but not the free exchange of opinion and information about gambling.
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NY United States Member #24178 October 16, 2005 1739 Posts Offline
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This is shameful and unconstitutional. Should any form of regulation of the Internet be imposed by Congress, gambling or otherwise, then I say what's to stop Americans from using ISP's that originate outside of the US? Implementing an ISP based in a Costa Rica, Grand Cayman or Geneva is TOTALLY possible. There are only about 10 backbone networks in the world and ISP's rent connections from those companies and sell the service to us. Anyone can start an ISP. I'd like to see them just try and regulate that! Or are they going to tell me I can't shop overseas too! WHAT LOSERS. How about spending time on something a little more prudent, like GAS PRICES or the WAR maybe. 
what's to stop Americans from using ISP's that originate outside of the US? Well, for starters there's the way the internet works. If you follow your phone line or your cable you'll find that the other end isn't in a different country. I suppose you could subscribe to a foreign ISP's satelite connection if you don't mind the long distance charges for the uplink over phone lines. If you do manage to get service through a foreign provider you'll need one that's willing to violate the US laws that would apply to any business they conduct within the US, which would include servicing any requests originating from your computer, which I presume is located in the US.
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United States Member #16902 June 2, 2005 3493 Posts Offline
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If online gambling rights are eliminated, I would be happy. For example, after poker professional Mike "The Mouth" Matusow won $1 million at 2005 WSOP main event, he spent about half of his winnings gambling online. Then his parents took it the internet away from him.
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Clarksville United States Member #489 July 15, 2002 9193 Posts Offline
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| Posted: July 13, 2006, 3:11 am - IP Logged |
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My, my. I am so impressed with our government officials. They are doing their very best to manipulate where and how I spend my money. If they get rid of internet gambling..I betcha that "other forms" will be back shortly. I remember number games played in your own neighborhood. They can't legislate morality and why they are still trying is beyond me. I wonder how many of our tax dollars they used with this garbage. We have a full plate with the costs of the war, veteran's care, illegal aliens (coming in droves), high gas prices, high grocery prices, jobs being lost and not recovered, areas of the country that are being rebuilt and more areas being wrecked as we speak, homeless Americans, terrorism,illegal drugs, and some idiot is crying about internet gambling. They didn't cry this loud when gas was $4.00 a gallon. It takes Everyone's input to HIT the number..all are equally important.
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