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US House votes to kill Internet gambling
Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 17060 Posts Offline |
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The off-topic posts were removed from this thread. Those are better to post in a blog.
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Lotto City, Michigan United States Member #36658 March 30, 2006 1354 Posts Online |
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The Carolinas - Charlotte United States Member #21960 September 12, 2005 4104 Posts Offline |
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Surely one of those 3 will occur that you mention Todd...or at least I will keep my fingers crossed anyway. And we're going to think that ol' W doesn't like putting a few greenbacks on the Longhorns? HAHA The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots: 
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NY United States Member #24178 October 16, 2005 1739 Posts Offline |
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Everyone who keeps saying that lotteries and horse racing are allowed under the bill, STOP SAYING THAT. Lotteries and horse racing are NOT included in the bill. Re-read the article at the beginning of this thread. It says: Reps. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., and Jim Leach, R-Iowa sponsored the bill. They successfully beat back an amendment to strip out exemptions in the legislation for the horse racing industry and state lotteries. Goodlatte called that "a poison pill amendment," aimed at defeating the larger bill.
By continuing to say that lotteries are exempted, you are giving false hope to people. "They successfully beat back an amendment to strip out exemptions in the legislation for the horse racing industry and state lotteries."
I know that most reporters would be lucky to get a C in 6th grade English class, but I think that sentence is pretty clear, and it's accurate. The bill has exemptions for horse racing and state lotteries. There was an amendment to remove those exemptions, and the amendment was defeated.
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Amarillo/Austin United States Member #1450 April 25, 2003 696 Posts Offline |
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Personally, I don't mind seeing the government regulate online gambling and taxing it in some way. That would assure it would continue. They tax cigarettes and booze. These "vices" continue just fine because the government needs the revenue. If it were regulated, your ISP charges, home computer, lottery software, etc, would become tax write-offs. You could buy a new computer every year and write it off as a business expense. Heck, you could probably deduct some off your house payment for a home office if you made enough profit. Lottery software companies would make a mint and the technology would flourish. With more and more jobs being shipped overseas, regulating and taxing off shore gambling could become a legal source of income for thousands of unemployed people. Just trying to look on the bright side . . . Orangeman 
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The Carolinas - Charlotte United States Member #21960 September 12, 2005 4104 Posts Offline |
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O'man I like what you say there...I've been looking for a way to write off all those pesky expenses :) The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:
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This is a great topic. I hope Internet gambling goes away for good.
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The Carolinas - Charlotte United States Member #21960 September 12, 2005 4104 Posts Offline |
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Huh? The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:
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Memphis,Tennessee United States Member #8005 October 15, 2004 11291 Posts Offline |
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LOTTOMIKE,
When people like YOU start thinking of Americans as "US" instead of as "we" and "them", this country might become a better place. EXPLAIN?
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Memphis,Tennessee United States Member #8005 October 15, 2004 11291 Posts Offline |
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This is a great topic. I hope Internet gambling goes away for good. i'm lost....why would you hope this?
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CA United States Member #4508 April 23, 2004 426 Posts Offline |
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Everyone who keeps saying that lotteries and horse racing are allowed under the bill, STOP SAYING THAT. Lotteries and horse racing are NOT included in the bill. Re-read the article at the beginning of this thread. It says: Reps. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., and Jim Leach, R-Iowa sponsored the bill. They successfully beat back an amendment to strip out exemptions in the legislation for the horse racing industry and state lotteries. Goodlatte called that "a poison pill amendment," aimed at defeating the larger bill.
By continuing to say that lotteries are exempted, you are giving false hope to people. "They successfully beat back an amendment to strip out exemptions in the legislation for the horse racing industry and state lotteries."
I know that most reporters would be lucky to get a C in 6th grade English class, but I think that sentence is pretty clear, and it's accurate. The bill has exemptions for horse racing and state lotteries. There was an amendment to remove those exemptions, and the amendment was defeated. This is what i'm reading from the original story... "However, the lottery exemption wasn't in the bill back in 2000. If it had been, Abramoff's client probably would have backed the bill. Online lotteries are exempted this time around at the behest of states." It's not what you got, It's what you give, It's not the life you choose, It's the life you live! 
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Memphis,Tennessee United States Member #8005 October 15, 2004 11291 Posts Offline |
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i'm not going to put my political views here any more.i think it distracts from the lottery topic at hand.about what i posted earlier you have to remember where i'm from and where i was raised.memphis,tennessee doesn't exactly have a good history of race relations.martin luther king was assassinated here in 1968.the world may have changed in other places but here things remain very much frosty.so before you judge me take into account what i've been through and where i am.this is one of the poorest regions in the nation.while you might have good harmony where you are that might not exactly be the case where i'm located.and for the record i'm not racist and a i have friends of all races.thank you for letting me clear this up...........
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United States Member #10921 January 23, 2005 863 Posts Offline |
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"Reps. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., and Jim Leach, R-Iowa sponsored the bill. They successfully beat back an amendment to strip out exemptions in the legislation for the horse racing industry and state lotteries." beat back = blocked? eliminated? strip out = remove? exemptions = allowing of? it would read "successfully eliminated an amendment to remove the allowing of horse racing/lotteries." Meaning, the legislation HAS exemptions for horse racing/lottery which the Reps. PROTECTED... IF I am reading this correctly. QUESTION OF THE DAY: What about PayPal?????? I am sure that online casinos can find some alternate method of keeping accounts.. I mean it's a pain-in-the-neck to send a check to an online casino to fund one's account but that's NOT being outlawed so far.. ONLY credit card payments right? ELIMINATE ALL COMPUTERIZED CASINOS????
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Atlanta, GA United States Member #1288 March 13, 2003 2633 Posts Offline |
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I've been wondering all afternoon who is the lobbying interest behind H.R.4411. Clark Howard is a radio and tv consumer advocate who normally knows who or what issue is behind various legislation. He is not in favor of any kind of gambling, but please read past his opinion to who is the lobbying interest behind the push to stop it. For those who've said follow the money trail, you are indeed correct. Credit card companies are apparently losing $$$$$$$ so are the lobbying interest behind the ban. ___________________________ "Stay away from online gambling There is one kind of "dot com" that Clark hopes you will avoid – online gambling sites. If you get a lot of junk e-mails or pop-up ads and you’re not into gambling, you may not think twice about it. But if you’re at all intrigued by the idea of “express cash” and making quick money on the Web, you could get taken. Clicking on these links could sign you up for a line of credit at a casino where they give you a loan to gamble. And these sites have ruined peoples’ lives. Credit card companies are up in arms over these sites because people use the cards to get more money to play. And many blow so much borrowed money that they end up filing for bankruptcy. Even if you enjoy gambling, please don’t get involved in online gambling. There is a huge potential for loss with regular gambling, but online it’s even worse. If you need help, check out gamblersanonymous.org. "
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Memphis,Tennessee United States Member #8005 October 15, 2004 11291 Posts Offline |
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the bottom line in all of this is a couple things.....
1-the government is greedy and mad because they can't tax it
2-the casinos in vegas are losing action
3-they decide to join together to stamp it out
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