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Lottery-check scams get more seductive, ingenious

Aug. 28, 2006, 11:00 a.m.

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By Paul Wenske
Kansas City Star

Those lousy lottery-check scams are mutating again and ensnaring more unsuspecting consumers.

But first, folks, you just shouldn't fall for these goofy scams. No honest lottery in the world gives out free money.

That said, the scams are increasing. And they offer sneaky new twists to create a false sense of security. More scams are using counterfeit checks drawn on legitimate bank accounts of real businesses.

Reader Mary Kay Culp of Lenexa alerted me to one bogus check she and her husband got from the National Lottery Co. of New York. The lottery said the Culps could use the check, in the amount of $4,750.25, to pay a 12 percent surcharge required to secure their winnings.

That was the first clue the check was fraudulent. Honest lotteries do not require surcharges or other upfront fees.

But these scam artists veil their ruse by making their victims believe they are doing them a favor. "By law you are not required to pay for your winning on any lottery with your personal money (sic) that's why we enclosed a check to cover your surcharges," the lottery letter said.

The Culps just needed to deposit the check in their bank, then wire a payment to cover the surcharge. What could be easier? In 72 hours they'd receive their $250,000 in winnings

The Culps didn't fall for it — though they did pause over the scammers' ingenuity.

"There is this tiny little voice inside you that says, ‘What if this is true?' But there is a louder voice that says, ‘Of course this is not true,' " joked Culp.

What made the check even more convincing is that, unlike more amateurish efforts, it didn't come from the lottery.

Instead, it purported to come from DDB Worldwide Communications Group Inc., a real company that, in fact, handles marketing for the New York Lottery. And it was drawn on The Northern Trust Co. of Chicago. By all appearances, it is a legitimate check. In fact, it is a good counterfeit, authorities said.

A DDB spokeswoman said her company is not associated with the National Lottery Co. Indeed, authorities said, the National Lottery Co. doesn't even exist.

"It's really sneaky because if you called the bank they would confirm the real company had an account there and they might even confirm there is enough in the account to cover the check," said Susan Grant, head of the National Consumers League, which monitors lottery-check frauds.

Authorities say the scammers work out of Ontario, Canada, and call consumers to verify their winnings using cell phones so they can't be traced to any one location.

Allan Weiss, a Toronto lawyer, said businesses whose checks have been stolen also have been defrauded. He has gone to court to force telephone providers to shut down phone numbers used by the scams.

"It's almost like a drug deal," said Barry Elliott, coordinator of Phone Busters, an anti-fraud center operated by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Ontario Provincial Police Department.

He said the scammers steal real company checks from the mail. They then use sophisticated techniques to wash ink off the checks and write in consumer names, which they buy on the Internet.

Duped consumers think they are getting legitimate checks. Many presume if their bank accepts the checks, they must be good and they are cleared to withdraw money from their account.

But that's a mistake. Even if a bank deposits a check in a consumer's account, that doesn't mean the check has cleared.

It actually takes weeks for a check to clear. That's because the consumer's bank won't know whether the check is good until it is presented for payment to the bank on which it is drawn.

By then, a consumer has wired the money to the scammers. Inevitably these checks bounce. The scammers get their money. But the victims get nothing. And legally they are liable to their bank for the bounced check.

Why are consumers still falling for this? "A lot of customers are not aware of the scam," said Mark Miller, executive vice president of Premier Bank in Lenexa.

Like a growing number of banks, Premier has put up signs warning customers of the scam and its consequences. The warnings can short-circuit the fraud before it happens.

"Every bank large and small should do the same," Grant said.

How to protect yourself from check scams How to protect yourself

  • If you unexpectedly get a check, it's probably a scam.
  • If you cash the check, you will be liable for the full amount if it bounces.
  • If the check bounces, your account may be frozen.
  • If you must deposit the check, wait until you know it has cleared to cash it.
  • If you have questions, ask your teller or a bank official.

To report a scam

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Remember folks...

If it is too good to be true then it is too good to be true...

 

                               

              

 

 

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DoubleDown said:

"If it is too good to be true then it is too good to be true..."

You're right, DD; this is a no-brainer.

If you haven't entered the drawing you've just won, or if you discover, after searching your house, that you don't have the ticket alluded to in your "winner's notification," the odds are better than average that you're going to lose more money when you try to collect a non-existent prize to which you're not entitled.

Being stupid isn't a cheap hobby, and the price rises sharply according to the degree of stupidity to which one aspires.

Plenty of information on this ruse is readily available, even to those who don't have access to the internet. Despite this, people continue to swallow these scams because they want to believe it's true.

I'm glad to see that the woman in the article didn't fall for it, but it seems to me that common sense is quickly becoming a misnomer these days...

Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...

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DoubleDown said:

"If it is too good to be true then it is too good to be true..."

You're right, DD; this is a no-brainer.

If you haven't entered the drawing you've just won, or if you discover, after searching your house, that you don't have the ticket alluded to in your "winner's notification," the odds are better than average that you're going to lose more money when you try to collect a non-existent prize to which you're not entitled.

Being stupid isn't a cheap hobby, and the price rises sharply according to the degree of stupidity to which one aspires.

Plenty of information on this ruse is readily available, even to those who don't have access to the internet. Despite this, people continue to swallow these scams because they want to believe it's true.

I'm glad to see that the woman in the article didn't fall for it, but it seems to me that common sense is quickly becoming a misnomer these days...

Too bad the government don't spend more money for personell to catch these crooks.  They try to education people and hope that they take heed.  But it seems that the people who get scammed aren't the ones reading the information.  They've been catching some of them lately though. 

They should get Fed time. 

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Good morning,

 What happen to the old saying you can take it to the bank? If the bank post the money to your account then it should be your money! Who is being Scammed? The bank makes sure the Con artist get thier money! and when thier mastake is uncovered WHO pay's. If it was the bank this kind of thing would stop!

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By Paul Wenske
Kansas City Star

Those lousy lottery-check scams are mutating again and ensnaring more unsuspecting consumers.

But first, folks, you just shouldn't fall for these goofy scams. No honest lottery in the world gives out free money.

That said, the scams are increasing. And they offer sneaky new twists to create a false sense of security. More scams are using counterfeit checks drawn on legitimate bank accounts of real businesses.

Reader Mary Kay Culp of Lenexa alerted me to one bogus check she and her husband got from the National Lottery Co. of New York. The lottery said the Culps could use the check, in the amount of $4,750.25, to pay a 12 percent surcharge required to secure their winnings.

That was the first clue the check was fraudulent. Honest lotteries do not require surcharges or other upfront fees.

But these scam artists veil their ruse by making their victims believe they are doing them a favor. "By law you are not required to pay for your winning on any lottery with your personal money (sic) that's why we enclosed a check to cover your surcharges," the lottery letter said.

The Culps just needed to deposit the check in their bank, then wire a payment to cover the surcharge. What could be easier? In 72 hours they'd receive their $250,000 in winnings

The Culps didn't fall for it — though they did pause over the scammers' ingenuity.

"There is this tiny little voice inside you that says, ‘What if this is true?' But there is a louder voice that says, ‘Of course this is not true,' " joked Culp.

What made the check even more convincing is that, unlike more amateurish efforts, it didn't come from the lottery.

Instead, it purported to come from DDB Worldwide Communications Group Inc., a real company that, in fact, handles marketing for the New York Lottery. And it was drawn on The Northern Trust Co. of Chicago. By all appearances, it is a legitimate check. In fact, it is a good counterfeit, authorities said.

A DDB spokeswoman said her company is not associated with the National Lottery Co. Indeed, authorities said, the National Lottery Co. doesn't even exist.

"It's really sneaky because if you called the bank they would confirm the real company had an account there and they might even confirm there is enough in the account to cover the check," said Susan Grant, head of the National Consumers League, which monitors lottery-check frauds.

Authorities say the scammers work out of Ontario, Canada, and call consumers to verify their winnings using cell phones so they can't be traced to any one location.

Allan Weiss, a Toronto lawyer, said businesses whose checks have been stolen also have been defrauded. He has gone to court to force telephone providers to shut down phone numbers used by the scams.

"It's almost like a drug deal," said Barry Elliott, coordinator of Phone Busters, an anti-fraud center operated by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Ontario Provincial Police Department.

He said the scammers steal real company checks from the mail. They then use sophisticated techniques to wash ink off the checks and write in consumer names, which they buy on the Internet.

Duped consumers think they are getting legitimate checks. Many presume if their bank accepts the checks, they must be good and they are cleared to withdraw money from their account.

But that's a mistake. Even if a bank deposits a check in a consumer's account, that doesn't mean the check has cleared.

It actually takes weeks for a check to clear. That's because the consumer's bank won't know whether the check is good until it is presented for payment to the bank on which it is drawn.

By then, a consumer has wired the money to the scammers. Inevitably these checks bounce. The scammers get their money. But the victims get nothing. And legally they are liable to their bank for the bounced check.

Why are consumers still falling for this? "A lot of customers are not aware of the scam," said Mark Miller, executive vice president of Premier Bank in Lenexa.

Like a growing number of banks, Premier has put up signs warning customers of the scam and its consequences. The warnings can short-circuit the fraud before it happens.

"Every bank large and small should do the same," Grant said.

How to protect yourself from check scams How to protect yourself

  • If you unexpectedly get a check, it's probably a scam.
  • If you cash the check, you will be liable for the full amount if it bounces.
  • If the check bounces, your account may be frozen.
  • If you must deposit the check, wait until you know it has cleared to cash it.
  • If you have questions, ask your teller or a bank official.

To report a scam

I received an e-mail 2 weeks ago saying that I had won The Margaret Thatcher Foundation Lottery Promotion & to send them my info, name,address,state, whether married or single.  It was from an e-mail in the UK and I was to contact them.  Didnt send any info-but told them to send me info via e-mail.  Sure enough they did.  It said that I should contact their courier company-British Air Freight Limited for them to send me the money. Of course the cost would be my responsibility!!!  The original address was in England but the freight address was in Ireland!!!  Sent the info to the FTC and they explained to just delete.  Not to send any personal info because it could be used to get into accounts...SCAM< SCAM!!!  I'd just like to know how they can misrepresent companies like Microsoft & Intel and get away with it.  The e-mail that I got came from Yahoo!!!BS

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my question is this......

how can you win if you never played in the first place???

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Well there is a MILLION dollar question. I agree as well on both parts. Nothing is for nothing and that is JUST what is means. Espeically if you dont enter the darn thing. Of course they can say that they picked your email or name ect out of a hat lol. BUT granted when people are gullable enough to fall for it ( not saying that its bad thing .. things happen ya know) but why does the bank ALLOW to send them the money IF its not a REAL check. Makes no sense to me what so ever. I know that when I put in a check it has to clear at my bank before they allow me to draw funds on it.  Tisk Tisk, everyone just HAS to be realistic when it comes these things.  oh HEY EVERYONE  MUAHHHHHH. 

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Well there is a MILLION dollar question. I agree as well on both parts. Nothing is for nothing and that is JUST what is means. Espeically if you dont enter the darn thing. Of course they can say that they picked your email or name ect out of a hat lol. BUT granted when people are gullable enough to fall for it ( not saying that its bad thing .. things happen ya know) but why does the bank ALLOW to send them the money IF its not a REAL check. Makes no sense to me what so ever. I know that when I put in a check it has to clear at my bank before they allow me to draw funds on it.  Tisk Tisk, everyone just HAS to be realistic when it comes these things.  oh HEY EVERYONE  MUAHHHHHH. 

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Long time no see...yes, you were missed!

 

I was going to comment on this yesterday...but the fact remains..."there is a sucker born every minute".

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And, in this instance, there is a connection to the (corrupt, because of mandatory annuity payments) NY Lottery. I will never be duped like this.

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Well there is a MILLION dollar question. I agree as well on both parts. Nothing is for nothing and that is JUST what is means. Espeically if you dont enter the darn thing. Of course they can say that they picked your email or name ect out of a hat lol. BUT granted when people are gullable enough to fall for it ( not saying that its bad thing .. things happen ya know) but why does the bank ALLOW to send them the money IF its not a REAL check. Makes no sense to me what so ever. I know that when I put in a check it has to clear at my bank before they allow me to draw funds on it.  Tisk Tisk, everyone just HAS to be realistic when it comes these things.  oh HEY EVERYONE  MUAHHHHHH. 

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My company is actually a victim of one of those scam letters.  A canadian company sending out letters using a rough version of our logo and name.  We get calls every day from people who think they won the international lottery.  Most often it is elderly folk.  Makes me a little angry.  Sad part is, when we explain it's most likely a scam, they get angry.  So many people are hoping that money will save them some day...

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Hey...look at this.. a check in the mail, for me! I won the lottery? I guess it's true.. I play often enough.. I must have forgot entering this one, maybe one of those little stands down on the Boardwalk. Anyway I don't really need this 4 grand or so because I just found out via e-mail that if I hold 20 mill in my bank account for this nice person from Nigeria, he will let me keep 5 mill! Only thing, he wants 4 grand for some kind of travel expenses, whatever, I'll just send him the 4 grand check I got in the mail.

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LcyLary- I like the way you think! To scam the scammer is the ultimate in justice!

As to the person who spoke of banking. learn the regulations that guard an account and what a person is ultimately responsible for. The comment was remiss of knowledge in the banking system here in the states.

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Good morning,

 What happen to the old saying you can take it to the bank? If the bank post the money to your account then it should be your money! Who is being Scammed? The bank makes sure the Con artist get thier money! and when thier mastake is uncovered WHO pay's. If it was the bank this kind of thing would stop!

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Most Banks have a 5 or 7 day hold on certain funds deposited.  However I seem to recall an article or post that said that even if the check bounces after the funds have been released you are still liable.