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nashville United States Member #50355 February 18, 2007 907 Posts Offline
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I remember years ago when Ohio SuperLotto had $50M+ jackpots, a guy from Pennsylvania and his wife had drifted apart and was pretty much living their own lives happily with no problems until he won the Ohio lottery jackpot of $60M. His wife had shacked up with some guy and he claimed his girlfriend/co-worker was a co-owner of his winning ticket thinking he would avoid splitting his winnings with his estrange wife. His wife went to court and divorced him and also got half of his share of the winnings and the girlfriend decided to go her own way with her half and he ended up with just a quarter of the winnings which should have been all his. that story is a nightmare because he had to give money to people who didnt want him anymore... but at least like the person above me said he has a quarter of the jackpot...
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Gurnee, Illinois United States Member #50189 February 12, 2007 260 Posts Offline
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| Posted: April 17, 2007, 1:23 pm - IP Logged |
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RJOH: you mean to tell me that Ohio had a SuperLotto similar to California's Superlotto...starting at $7 million and increasing with each rollover just slightly less so than MM or PB? What happened?! I see your current lotto is getting up there, but it can't compare with CA SuperLotto. Forget the formulas...you only win when you're lucky!
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United States Member #50584 February 26, 2007 601 Posts Offline
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| Posted: April 17, 2007, 1:30 pm - IP Logged |
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I remember years ago when Ohio SuperLotto had $50M+ jackpots, a guy from Pennsylvania and his wife had drifted apart and was pretty much living their own lives happily with no problems until he won the Ohio lottery jackpot of $60M. His wife had shacked up with some guy and he claimed his girlfriend/co-worker was a co-owner of his winning ticket thinking he would avoid splitting his winnings with his estrange wife. His wife went to court and divorced him and also got half of his share of the winnings and the girlfriend decided to go her own way with her half and he ended up with just a quarter of the winnings which should have been all his. I disagree that it should have been all his. Legally, half belonged to his estranged wife. Then he had to go and try to cheat her out of her share by involving a person who would not have had a claim otherwise, and the fool ended up with only half of his share. I think justice was served, and if I were his estranged/ex-wife wife, I'd be laughing my ass off everytime I enjoyed spending my full share. Just one more reason to see a GOOD attorney before hopping off to cash the ticket.
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mid-Ohio United States Member #9 March 24, 2001 9369 Posts Offline
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| Posted: April 17, 2007, 5:38 pm - IP Logged |
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RJOH: you mean to tell me that Ohio had a SuperLotto similar to California's Superlotto...starting at $7 million and increasing with each rollover just slightly less so than MM or PB? What happened?! I see your current lotto is getting up there, but it can't compare with CA SuperLotto. At the time Ohio had the best game in the area, its jackpot increased $4M or more after every drawings if no one won so people from all five surrounding states played and often won. Then Ohio decided that the maximum amount it would pay on a single ticket was $20M regardless of the jackpot size because some lawmakers thought more than $20M was more than a single player deserved and out of state players stopped playing. Before Ohio got rid of that rules the other states lotteries became more popular and Ohio never regain it popularity and it added MegaMillions after Ohioan started going out of state to play PowerBall and BigGame. * Trying is the first step toward failure *
homer J. Simpson
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mid-Ohio United States Member #9 March 24, 2001 9369 Posts Offline
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| Posted: April 17, 2007, 6:05 pm - IP Logged |
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I disagree that it should have been all his. Legally, half belonged to his estranged wife. Then he had to go and try to cheat her out of her share by involving a person who would not have had a claim otherwise, and the fool ended up with only half of his share. I think justice was served, and if I were his estranged/ex-wife wife, I'd be laughing my ass off everytime I enjoyed spending my full share. Just one more reason to see a GOOD attorney before hopping off to cash the ticket. When his wife became estranged and started shacking up with another guy he should have divorced her then but that's what happens when a person doesn't take care of those legal things in a timely manner. If he wasn't planning on having a family with any those women then he would have been better off to have just played house and that way he could have just moved on when he won the lottery and kept it all. * Trying is the first step toward failure *
homer J. Simpson
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Sunny SW Florida United States Member #25708 November 5, 2005 4193 Posts Offline
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| Posted: April 17, 2007, 6:06 pm - IP Logged |
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I wouldn't be trying to hide assets...oh my wife would know that our investment account would be huge...she would just think that I found a nice line of wealthy clients and businesses in my line of work...she would never know were the proceeds came from...yes, I know I would have to file taxes and that the lottery commission would send me a W-2G with "Lottery Commission" clearly printed on the outside of the envelop...that is why I would direct all lottery commission mail to a newly opened Post Office Box at my local post office and when we have our taxes done by a tax pro, I would cover up the line for lottery/gambling winnings as we review it so that she never sees the source (that might be the weak link in all my plans to keep it secret from my wife). And no, she doesn't surf lottery websites...she's more into the fundamental christian websites. It's really none of my business OldSchool. I am certainly no expert when it comes to marriages. I just would never keep a secret like that from my spouse. Anyway, I think your wife may be much smarter than you think. If you are self-employed and use Form 1040 along with Form SE and Schedule C, etc., it would be next to impossible to hide what you won only because you wouldn't be showing that income on those forms. I see you already thought of that. Depends on your relationship anyway. My mother never looked at a tax return in her life AFAIK. I'm sure she would have just signed whatever my Dad put in front of her. However, I doubt if he hid anything from her. BTW, don't think Fundamentalist Christians aren't on LP... LOL! Many very religious people might want to hide playing the lottery from their church, but nobody's perfect! As I said, it's none of my business and I don't judge other people's personal relationships. I just think it's ironic that someone who is secretly doing something doesn't consider that the person he is hiding that secret from is capable of also secretly doing something. I'm not talking about you (really) but let's say a man is cheating on his wife. He'll go out and sneak behind her back and then get furious (and hurt) when he finds out she's been having an affair! "OMG! How can she do that to me?"
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Gurnee, Illinois United States Member #50189 February 12, 2007 260 Posts Offline
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| Posted: April 17, 2007, 6:32 pm - IP Logged |
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justxploring: Yeah, I know in some camps what I am doing might be considered foul play...doing anything that one must keep a secret from their spouse...but in discussions like this with my wife, we have agreed that their are times when we have to agree to disagree and keep loving each other. However, she was really adamant THAT I NOT PLAY the lottery...kind of like she was commanding me as though I were a child. Of course, you know what usually happens when you tell a child not to do something that they see nothing wrong in doing...they do it anyway behind their parents' backs. Now I definitely do not consider myself a childish person. I believe in taking care of all my responsibilities. But I also see playing the lottery as one of my recreational outlets just like playing golf. I figure that this is one recreational outlet that actually benefits a good cause whether I win or not...and should I happen to win, then in my eyes, that's truly a win-win situation! Forget the formulas...you only win when you're lucky!
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United States Member #50584 February 26, 2007 601 Posts Offline
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| Posted: April 17, 2007, 7:02 pm - IP Logged |
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When his wife became estranged and started shacking up with another guy he should have divorced her then but that's what happens when a person doesn't take care of those legal things in a timely manner. If he wasn't planning on having a family with any those women then he would have been better off to have just played house and that way he could have just moved on when he won the lottery and kept it all. Yep, all it would have taken was to get divorced before he or she started shacking up with anyone else. Then he wouldn't have felt the need to offer to split the jackpot with his girlfriend in order to keep it away from his estranged wife, and he could have kept the whole thing instead of 25%. I wonder if he still has any of it left? He doesn't seem to be the type to plan for the future or to make good decisions.
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Indiana United States Member #49185 January 7, 2007 1157 Posts Offline
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| Posted: April 17, 2007, 7:15 pm - IP Logged |
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Wouldn't the spouse only get half if you already claimed it? Lets say you won a big jackpot, but you haven't claimed it yet, and you get a divorce, then you claimed it. I mean, if you haven't claimed it yet, there wouldn't be anything to show a huge income accumulation. Just keep the ticket hidden until the divorce is over? Gonna win.
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United States Member #4963 May 30, 2004 2492 Posts Offline
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| Posted: April 17, 2007, 7:33 pm - IP Logged |
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It's really none of my business OldSchool. I am certainly no expert when it comes to marriages. I just would never keep a secret like that from my spouse. Anyway, I think your wife may be much smarter than you think. If you are self-employed and use Form 1040 along with Form SE and Schedule C, etc., it would be next to impossible to hide what you won only because you wouldn't be showing that income on those forms. I see you already thought of that. Depends on your relationship anyway. My mother never looked at a tax return in her life AFAIK. I'm sure she would have just signed whatever my Dad put in front of her. However, I doubt if he hid anything from her. BTW, don't think Fundamentalist Christians aren't on LP... LOL! Many very religious people might want to hide playing the lottery from their church, but nobody's perfect! As I said, it's none of my business and I don't judge other people's personal relationships. I just think it's ironic that someone who is secretly doing something doesn't consider that the person he is hiding that secret from is capable of also secretly doing something. I'm not talking about you (really) but let's say a man is cheating on his wife. He'll go out and sneak behind her back and then get furious (and hurt) when he finds out she's been having an affair! "OMG! How can she do that to me?" GULL's not Stupid FESS-up BOUY's>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHAT are the GULL's>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOOD FOR??????
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