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Tennessee Lottery threatens to go computerized

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Posted: July 17, 2007, 2:34 pm - IP Logged Bottom

There are no telling how many glitches — big or small — that exist in the memory banks and storage systems of computerized drawing systems, because lottery players have no way to visually inspect the drawing as it takes place.

Wasn't there a problem a year or so ago with Kansas where they drew the same number for a couple of days because of a computer glitch???

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Posted: July 17, 2007, 2:52 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Thanks for this story, Todd.

Tennessee players should not stand for this- make your voices known ! Let the lottery commission know that you will not stand for this.

 

I am surprised at Rebecca Paul Hargrove - she ran the Ga lottery to perfection so she should know better than this !!!

Kind of just curious.  When I hear people say "let them know  you will not stand for this..." in regards to what govt entities plan to do...well I guess I'm jaded.  Probably been in the realworld too many years.  Found out the realworld is nothing like the teachers in school say it is....

Other than sending a protest in writing/email etc...what exactly do you think can be done?  They have the power to do what they want. Just like Wisconsin did ; went to RNG.  They look around and see that it saves them a bunch of money, the diehard players mostly dislike it, but it's still "the only game in town".  So they do what they want and placate the public with pretty words.  In the end its the same.  Them with the power decides.

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Posted: July 17, 2007, 3:04 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

So if I'm hearing you right, we should just roll over ?

I'm glad our founding fathers didn't just let them with power decide.

 

                               

              

 

 

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Posted: July 17, 2007, 3:36 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Kind of just curious.  When I hear people say "let them know  you will not stand for this..." in regards to what govt entities plan to do...well I guess I'm jaded.  Probably been in the realworld too many years.  Found out the realworld is nothing like the teachers in school say it is....

Other than sending a protest in writing/email etc...what exactly do you think can be done?  They have the power to do what they want. Just like Wisconsin did ; went to RNG.  They look around and see that it saves them a bunch of money, the diehard players mostly dislike it, but it's still "the only game in town".  So they do what they want and placate the public with pretty words.  In the end its the same.  Them with the power decides.

Respectfully, I disagree.

I believe Lottery Post and all its members has had a big impact on preventing more states from going computerized over the past 4 years.  Even with the aggressive sales tactics of the computerized drawing system makers, they have not been making much headway -- up until now.

Yes, it makes sense to do raffle drawing by computer, because it does not make sense to buy a drum filled wil 500,000 lottery balls.  So the systems makers have been selling those.  But not traditional games.

Don't resign yourself so easily.  There will always be challenges, and you have to decide how you will react to the challenges.

 

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Posted: July 17, 2007, 8:35 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

the reason they want to do this I guess is, they don't need to have a paid sexpot pointing to the ball machine or even the studio setup and all that and because this way if any of you find some way to systemize the TN lottery they can have the computer keep one step ahead and keep changing their algorithms. I stay away from games like that so it will either backfire or it will mean virtually nobody getting anywhere ahead by playing the TN lottery. Glad it isn't here in nj.    Yet.

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Posted: July 17, 2007, 10:00 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

the reason they want to do this I guess is, they don't need to have a paid sexpot pointing to the ball machine or even the studio setup and all that and because this way if any of you find some way to systemize the TN lottery they can have the computer keep one step ahead and keep changing their algorithms. I stay away from games like that so it will either backfire or it will mean virtually nobody getting anywhere ahead by playing the TN lottery. Glad it isn't here in nj.    Yet.

Well, that's what they're sold by the vendors, but that tiny amount of money saved becomes a big loss in revenue when offset against all the discontented players. They don't tell the lottery about that part.

 

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Posted: July 17, 2007, 10:03 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Sent an E-mail to the lottery commission, and hopeing all the Tenn players do the same. It's true it won't do a thing unless you contact every official and tell them it's a bad move. But, if every player there cut their amount they spend by $5.00 it would hit em where it hurts. The players need to have the intestonal fortitude and stick by it if they want to be heard...!

Good luck Tennessee......!

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Posted: July 17, 2007, 10:43 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Is anybody familiar with the outcome of the immigration bill?

Call, call, call especially if you play in Tennessee. 

Call the lottery commisssion often. Everyday, everybody.  They have to have a phone number.

here you go:

 

Tennessee Lottery Contact Information
Player Services: (877) 7TN-PLAY
Retailer Services: (800) 826-4311

Mailing Address:
P.O. Box 23470
Nashville, TN 37202

Phoenix Lottery Office
Plaza Tower Metro Center
200 Athens Way Suite 200
Nashville, TN 37228
(615) 253-6881
 

 

 Those contact us aspx go straight to who knows wherever.  They can't disregard real mail and real voices.

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Posted: July 18, 2007, 7:07 am - IP Logged Bottom Top

So if I'm hearing you right, we should just roll over ?

I'm glad our founding fathers didn't just let them with power decide.

That's almost ancient history now in any case.  This isn't 1776.  Why do you think people run for elected office and spend man, many, many times what the job pays to get elected?  They know how much power resides in the position.  How many non-millionaires get elected to office and when they leave they are multi-millionaires?  They easily take and encourage the "protests" of the people because they know they have the power, and therefore the last word.

It's even worse with the non-elected bureaucrats.  At least with elected officials, there is some accountabililty in that they have to run for election again.  WIth the bureaucrats, they are in their positions until they retire or decide to go elsewhere.  No accountability at all. 

If protestation makes you feel good, go for it.  Just don't expect it will change what they plan to do.

Life is short.  So PAY ATTENTION  !

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Posted: July 18, 2007, 7:16 am - IP Logged Bottom Top

Well, that's what they're sold by the vendors, but that tiny amount of money saved becomes a big loss in revenue when offset against all the discontented players. They don't tell the lottery about that part.

I would like to see some figures somewhere about how much revenue is lost when a state goes RNG. It doesn't seem to have affected WI at all since 2004 when they switched.  I don't know of any complaints by our LC that revenue is dropping. If anything, with the price of gasoline so high, what is suffering is the "impulse sales" in the convenience stores...where people would by a drink or a snack, they are cutting back on those before they cut back on their lottery tickets.

Frankly, I think the majority of players buying their tickets at the convenience store wouldn't be able to tell you if the draws are mechanical or RNG.  They just keep buying their tickets.  We have to remember that people who are registered here on LP are not "typical" lottery players. If what was said in the past (i.e. 70% of winners are qps) holds true, that's because about 70% of players are not interested in all the details of drawings enough to try and determine what numbers will fall....and instead just fork over their money figuring "today will be my lucky day".  Such people wouldn't be interested enough in the whole picture to be a member of LP. My 2 cents worth.

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