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Posted: October 8, 2007, 2:06 pm - IP Logged Bottom

i didnt like State Rep. Garnett Coleman comparing the lottery to drug dealers. in my opinion there is no comparison between selling illegal drugs and lottery tickets.

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It doesn't matter whose sand-box this is.  We both have equal abiltiy to speak our minds.  You said your opinion, and I said mine. 

Don't get upset and start implying you are being "silenced" or anything just because I put up a good argument.

I never said that there is no corruption at state lotteries.  That would be pretty dumb if I did, considering the number of corruption stories I've published here in the past.

I said that I think the statement that "blacks are being manipulated" is not only wrong, but insulting.  Also, the new article mentions POOR PEOPLE, NOT RACE.  The amount of money you have is not a race issue, and I'm not about to make it one.

I have no idea where you get your statistics from, because I don't think you're using any.  The actual statistics of winning ticket distribution consistently show that there is no bias against any particular geographic or socio-economic areas.  It is completely dependent upon the number of tickets bought in the area.

Look, I am just voicing my opinions and I am trying to give you the benefit of my experience.

I have been keeping abreast of the lottery industry every single day for the past 8 years, as a result of running this site.  Of course I have gained a lot of knowledge over that period.  It only makes sense!

You are 100% entitled to your own opinion, and you can voice it with the same enthusiasm that I voice mine.

I am posting my opinions because:

  1. I enjoy discussion lottery topics (why else would I have created this site?)
  2. I have experience and knowledge to share
  3. I like to make sure that all viewpoints are represented
  4. I like to give people such as yourself other opinions to consider

I do not post my opinions in order to censor people.  If I wanted to do that I'd erase your post.  I don't censor opinions, only spam ads.  If you agree or disagree, post away!

Lastly, when I readily spout facts and statistics, there is always a segment of people who start saying that I work for a lottery, or that I'm in cahoots with them.

So I will say proactively that nothing could be farther from the truth.  I have never worked for or with a lottery.  My opinions are my own.  My facts and statistics are based upon my own research. 

said that I think the statement that "blacks are being manipulated" is not only wrong, but insulting.  Also, the new article mentions POOR PEOPLE, NOT RACE.  The amount of money you have is not a race issue, and I'm not about to make it one.

I have no idea where you get your statistics from, because I don't think you're using any.  The actual statistics of winning ticket distribution consistently show that there is no bias against any particular geographic or socio-economic areas.  It is completely dependent upon the number of tickets bought in the area.

 

WeLL  I  was  infering  that  large  chain  stores    and  spermarkets  with  multiple  locations  who  sell  lottery  tickets  have  larger  winners  with  bigger  payoffs  than  in  small  corner  stores: These  chain  stores  are  also  in  the  malls  and  plazzas  in  middle  class  america  quite  different  than  your  foriegn  nationals  who   own  the  vast  number  of  mom  and  pop  conner  markets; When  these  stores  sell  lottery  tickets  ,this  includes  lotto,cash5  and&&instant  tickets ,  their  winngs  are  no  where  near  the  huge  giveback  they  are  in  the  larger  chain  stores;

 welfare  recipients  play  lottery  in  hopes  of  buying  food  and  moving  to  a  better  life  after  a  small  windfall this  does  not  happen  so  they  keep  trying and  trying  ...(  how  can  the  lottery  target  blacks  and  hispanics  and  not  other  races  /

easy  use  .... corporate  Phsychlologcal  conditioning  : Heck  even  Freud  had  no  idea  what  can  be the    unconditioned  responce  of  people  with  the  right  advertisement  and  media  we  are  Blitzed  with  today ;

 

 

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If  people  can  be  fooled  by  majic  on  national  TV  or  in  person,  who  is  to  say  we  cannot  be  fooled  by  the  lottery  , they  change  the  balls  they  work  behind  closed  doors  and  we  only  see  the  stage  set  after  the  manipulation of operations  during  the  draw  .....I  am  not  saying  dont  play  I  say  we  can  all  be  targeted  the  media  artical  only  pointed  out  the  poor  ....I  am  sure  we  are  all  targets  and  sheep  for  the  slaughter:  Look  at  9/11  and  then  look  at  the  evidence  they  have  compiled  against  the  9/11  even  though  people  looked  and   heard  explosions  and  all  the  evidence  pointing t o  a  cover  up  by  our  own  government  , yet  nothing  is  done;
People  feel  helpless  unless  their  told  what  to  do  @    We  often  only  see  what  we  want  to  see  or  expect , yet  the  truth  be  told  ,we  are  all  manipulated :
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Posted: October 8, 2007, 3:05 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Everybody I know that plays numbers are not poor, uneducated, or a so-called minority.  Remember what CBS stands for: Conspiratorial Broadcasting System.

They maybe #3  of the big three, but the big three are not what they used to be.  They are actually much smaller if you compare by viewer shares.  Hint: Look at Arbitron or Nielson.

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Posted: October 8, 2007, 3:27 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

If they want a hit piece that works maybe they can cover the problems in the Tennessee Lottery is having and the problems with comuter drawings.

U will never "C" an

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on the great state of TN.........from abc, cbs, nbc or cnn for.....

improper management  ..........of the LOTTERY  .........."ITSELF"!!

because, they are not in the business to INFORM the PUBLIC !!

 the Lottery Post is about all the INFO

on the what's going on

 "NOW" new's

(U or most people gona "GET")

LOL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of U need a ....>>>JACKPOT!

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said that I think the statement that "blacks are being manipulated" is not only wrong, but insulting.  Also, the new article mentions POOR PEOPLE, NOT RACE.  The amount of money you have is not a race issue, and I'm not about to make it one.

I have no idea where you get your statistics from, because I don't think you're using any.  The actual statistics of winning ticket distribution consistently show that there is no bias against any particular geographic or socio-economic areas.  It is completely dependent upon the number of tickets bought in the area.

 

WeLL  I  was  infering  that  large  chain  stores    and  spermarkets  with  multiple  locations  who  sell  lottery  tickets  have  larger  winners  with  bigger  payoffs  than  in  small  corner  stores: These  chain  stores  are  also  in  the  malls  and  plazzas  in  middle  class  america  quite  different  than  your  foriegn  nationals  who   own  the  vast  number  of  mom  and  pop  conner  markets; When  these  stores  sell  lottery  tickets  ,this  includes  lotto,cash5  and&&instant  tickets ,  their  winngs  are  no  where  near  the  huge  giveback  they  are  in  the  larger  chain  stores;

 welfare  recipients  play  lottery  in  hopes  of  buying  food  and  moving  to  a  better  life  after  a  small  windfall this  does  not  happen  so  they  keep  trying and  trying  ...(  how  can  the  lottery  target  blacks  and  hispanics  and  not  other  races  /

easy  use  .... corporate  Phsychlologcal  conditioning  : Heck  even  Freud  had  no  idea  what  can  be the    unconditioned  responce  of  people  with  the  right  advertisement  and  media  we  are  Blitzed  with  today ;

 

 

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If  people  can  be  fooled  by  majic  on  national  TV  or  in  person,  who  is  to  say  we  cannot  be  fooled  by  the  lottery  , they  change  the  balls  they  work  behind  closed  doors  and  we  only  see  the  stage  set  after  the  manipulation of operations  during  the  draw  .....I  am  not  saying  dont  play  I  say  we  can  all  be  targeted  the  media  artical  only  pointed  out  the  poor  ....I  am  sure  we  are  all  targets  and  sheep  for  the  slaughter:  Look  at  9/11  and  then  look  at  the  evidence  they  have  compiled  against  the  9/11  even  though  people  looked  and   heard  explosions  and  all  the  evidence  pointing t o  a  cover  up  by  our  own  government  , yet  nothing  is  done;
People  feel  helpless  unless  their  told  what  to  do  @    We  often  only  see  what  we  want  to  see  or  expect , yet  the  truth  be  told  ,we  are  all  manipulated :

It's not necessary to play the race card. People of all walks of life play the lottery and in every city and county where lotteries are sold. Winners come from many state areas also. A ticket holder no mater whom has the same chance of winning as every other ticket holder.

I have heard people say no one in Baltimore city has ever won the lottery. This is not a true statement there have been winners they just didn't go public about their win.    

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Sometimes, I am not sure which fascinates me the most; The belief that a completely random event can be controlled Or The belief that a completely random event targets a given segment of society and/or individual I do not know about other people and will not bother to post statistics I neither know nor understand. I do know I play based upon my personal interest and thoughts regarding the various games that are available. On occasions, on a gut feel that sometimes wins like the $500 scratch-off that I won last week which I used to put new tires on my vehicle. 

Now I need that gut feel again because I just wrecked my car and could definitely use a decent size win again.

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Posted: October 8, 2007, 4:08 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

said that I think the statement that "blacks are being manipulated" is not only wrong, but insulting.  Also, the new article mentions POOR PEOPLE, NOT RACE.  The amount of money you have is not a race issue, and I'm not about to make it one.

I have no idea where you get your statistics from, because I don't think you're using any.  The actual statistics of winning ticket distribution consistently show that there is no bias against any particular geographic or socio-economic areas.  It is completely dependent upon the number of tickets bought in the area.

 

WeLL  I  was  infering  that  large  chain  stores    and  spermarkets  with  multiple  locations  who  sell  lottery  tickets  have  larger  winners  with  bigger  payoffs  than  in  small  corner  stores: These  chain  stores  are  also  in  the  malls  and  plazzas  in  middle  class  america  quite  different  than  your  foriegn  nationals  who   own  the  vast  number  of  mom  and  pop  conner  markets; When  these  stores  sell  lottery  tickets  ,this  includes  lotto,cash5  and&&instant  tickets ,  their  winngs  are  no  where  near  the  huge  giveback  they  are  in  the  larger  chain  stores;

 welfare  recipients  play  lottery  in  hopes  of  buying  food  and  moving  to  a  better  life  after  a  small  windfall this  does  not  happen  so  they  keep  trying and  trying  ...(  how  can  the  lottery  target  blacks  and  hispanics  and  not  other  races  /

easy  use  .... corporate  Phsychlologcal  conditioning  : Heck  even  Freud  had  no  idea  what  can  be the    unconditioned  responce  of  people  with  the  right  advertisement  and  media  we  are  Blitzed  with  today ;

 

 

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If  people  can  be  fooled  by  majic  on  national  TV  or  in  person,  who  is  to  say  we  cannot  be  fooled  by  the  lottery  , they  change  the  balls  they  work  behind  closed  doors  and  we  only  see  the  stage  set  after  the  manipulation of operations  during  the  draw  .....I  am  not  saying  dont  play  I  say  we  can  all  be  targeted  the  media  artical  only  pointed  out  the  poor  ....I  am  sure  we  are  all  targets  and  sheep  for  the  slaughter:  Look  at  9/11  and  then  look  at  the  evidence  they  have  compiled  against  the  9/11  even  though  people  looked  and   heard  explosions  and  all  the  evidence  pointing t o  a  cover  up  by  our  own  government  , yet  nothing  is  done;
People  feel  helpless  unless  their  told  what  to  do  @    We  often  only  see  what  we  want  to  see  or  expect , yet  the  truth  be  told  ,we  are  all  manipulated :

Oh my.... now you're saying that there is some deep-rooted psychology behind the lottery and that they "choose" the winning stores because middle-class people play there.

You're also making blanket statements that are just untrue.  Can you please show me a real statistic that shows supermarkets sell more winning tickets than mom & pop stores?  Not a statistic that you claim is real, but actually show the numbers and source.

The only way supermarkets would sell more winning tickets is if they SOLD more tickets than mom & pop stores.

So you tell me: if supermarkets happened to sell more lottery tickets than mom & pop stores, should they or should they not produce more winners?

It sounds to me like you are advocating that the lottery manipulate the winning tickets so that an unfair number of winning tickets are sold in mom & pop stores -- that they should do it because some people happen to "need" the money more than other people.

The lottery is entertainment, not an income source.  If the lottery did what you suggest it would not be in existence anymore because people would stop playing.  In fact, we already have a system in place like you're suggesting:  it's called "taxes".

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said that I think the statement that "blacks are being manipulated" is not only wrong, but insulting.  Also, the new article mentions POOR PEOPLE, NOT RACE.  The amount of money you have is not a race issue, and I'm not about to make it one.

I have no idea where you get your statistics from, because I don't think you're using any.  The actual statistics of winning ticket distribution consistently show that there is no bias against any particular geographic or socio-economic areas.  It is completely dependent upon the number of tickets bought in the area.

 

WeLL  I  was  infering  that  large  chain  stores    and  spermarkets  with  multiple  locations  who  sell  lottery  tickets  have  larger  winners  with  bigger  payoffs  than  in  small  corner  stores: These  chain  stores  are  also  in  the  malls  and  plazzas  in  middle  class  america  quite  different  than  your  foriegn  nationals  who   own  the  vast  number  of  mom  and  pop  conner  markets; When  these  stores  sell  lottery  tickets  ,this  includes  lotto,cash5  and&&instant  tickets ,  their  winngs  are  no  where  near  the  huge  giveback  they  are  in  the  larger  chain  stores;

 welfare  recipients  play  lottery  in  hopes  of  buying  food  and  moving  to  a  better  life  after  a  small  windfall this  does  not  happen  so  they  keep  trying and  trying  ...(  how  can  the  lottery  target  blacks  and  hispanics  and  not  other  races  /

easy  use  .... corporate  Phsychlologcal  conditioning  : Heck  even  Freud  had  no  idea  what  can  be the    unconditioned  responce  of  people  with  the  right  advertisement  and  media  we  are  Blitzed  with  today ;

 

 

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Sigmund Freud (born Sigismund Freud) May 6 1856 – September 23 1939; (IPA: ['zi?km?nt 'f???t]) was an Austrian neurologist and psychiatrist who co-founded the psychoanalytic school of psychology. Freud is best known for his theories of the unconscious mind, especially involving ...
If  people  can  be  fooled  by  majic  on  national  TV  or  in  person,  who  is  to  say  we  cannot  be  fooled  by  the  lottery  , they  change  the  balls  they  work  behind  closed  doors  and  we  only  see  the  stage  set  after  the  manipulation of operations  during  the  draw  .....I  am  not  saying  dont  play  I  say  we  can  all  be  targeted  the  media  artical  only  pointed  out  the  poor  ....I  am  sure  we  are  all  targets  and  sheep  for  the  slaughter:  Look  at  9/11  and  then  look  at  the  evidence  they  have  compiled  against  the  9/11  even  though  people  looked  and   heard  explosions  and  all  the  evidence  pointing t o  a  cover  up  by  our  own  government  , yet  nothing  is  done;
People  feel  helpless  unless  their  told  what  to  do  @    We  often  only  see  what  we  want  to  see  or  expect , yet  the  truth  be  told  ,we  are  all  manipulated :

"WeLL  I  was  infering  that  large  chain  stores    and  spermarkets  with  multiple  locations  who  sell  lottery  tickets  have  larger  winners  with  bigger  payoffs  than  in  small  corner  stores:"

I was in one of those large chain convenience type stores early this morning in a very small town and saw a sign above the lottery machine saying that a $232,000 Rolling Cash winner was sold at that store. There is also a competing large chain convenience type store on the other side of town and a Mega Million jackpot ticket was sold at one of the chains other stores in another city a couple of years ago. Is the state lottery commission taking turns distributing large winners among large chain convenience type stores and neglecting stores part of your conspiracy theory?

"These  chain  stores  are  also  in  the  malls  and  plazzas  in  middle  class  america  quite  different  than  your  foriegn  nationals  who   own  the  vast  number  of  mom  and  pop  conner  markets; When  these  stores  sell  lottery  tickets  ,this  includes  lotto,cash5  and&&instant  tickets ,  their  winngs  are  no  where  near  the  huge  giveback  they  are  in  the  larger  chain  stores;"

The large chains franchise their stores so it's a fact many of them become "mom and pop's" type stores. Do you have any documented proof these huge givebacks don't go to Smith's, Jones', or Brown's Food Mart or are you just guessing?

Unless you have the facts or statistic to prove "welfare  recipients  play  lottery  in  hopes  of  buying  food " or any other reason to play lottery games that is exclusive to only "welfare  recipients", you ought to add "in my opinion" to blanket statements.

"how  can  the  lottery  target  blacks  and  hispanics  and  not  other  races"

Lotteries offer games of chance though there is a degree of hypocrisy that this form of gambling is somehow different because its profits go to education and not to stock holders of large gaming groups. I can patiently wait until you offer any proof the games of chance offered by the state lotteries are the exclusive domains of "blacks  and  hispanics  and  not  other  races".

"I  am  not  saying  dont  play  I  say  we  can  all  be  targeted  the  media  artical  only  pointed  out  the  poor  ....I  am  sure  we  are  all  targets  and  sheep  for  the  slaughter"

Didn't know that; I thought I was playing lottery games because it's fun spending a couple of bucks and taking a chance of winning hundreds and possibly millions of dollars. Should I start buying my tickets in a large chain store where, in your opinion all the jackpots are sold, or should I continue to buy my tickets at the other place where I can flirt with that cute little clerk?

Since I usually pick my own numbers does the lottery monitor my play and make it impossible for me to win as part of your huge conspiracy?

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Oh my.... now you're saying that there is some deep-rooted psychology behind the lottery and that they "choose" the winning stores because middle-class people play there.

You're also making blanket statements that are just untrue.  Can you please show me a real statistic that shows supermarkets sell more winning tickets than mom & pop stores?  Not a statistic that you claim is real, but actually show the numbers and source.

The only way supermarkets would sell more winning tickets is if they SOLD more tickets than mom & pop stores.

So you tell me: if supermarkets happened to sell more lottery tickets than mom & pop stores, should they or should they not produce more winners?

It sounds to me like you are advocating that the lottery manipulate the winning tickets so that an unfair number of winning tickets are sold in mom & pop stores -- that they should do it because some people happen to "need" the money more than other people.

The lottery is entertainment, not an income source.  If the lottery did what you suggest it would not be in existence anymore because people would stop playing.  In fact, we already have a system in place like you're suggesting:  it's called "taxes".

"It sounds to me like you are advocating that the lottery manipulate the winning tickets so that an unfair number of winning tickets are sold in mom & pop stores -- that they should do it because some people happen to "need" the money more than other people."

Public assistance comes from tax dollars and if it's true that mostly welfare recipients play lottery games and the lottery commissions can determine which store sells the most winners, wouldn't it make more sense to let those welfare recipients win so they are no longer a tax burden?

It would be fun reading all the feedback if CBS ever does an exposé on church run Bingo games.

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"WeLL  I  was  infering  that  large  chain  stores    and  spermarkets  with  multiple  locations  who  sell  lottery  tickets  have  larger  winners  with  bigger  payoffs  than  in  small  corner  stores:"

I was in one of those large chain convenience type stores early this morning in a very small town and saw a sign above the lottery machine saying that a $232,000 Rolling Cash winner was sold at that store. There is also a competing large chain convenience type store on the other side of town and a Mega Million jackpot ticket was sold at one of the chains other stores in another city a couple of years ago. Is the state lottery commission taking turns distributing large winners among large chain convenience type stores and neglecting stores part of your conspiracy theory?

"These  chain  stores  are  also  in  the  malls  and  plazzas  in  middle  class  america  quite  different  than  your  foriegn  nationals  who   own  the  vast  number  of  mom  and  pop  conner  markets; When  these  stores  sell  lottery  tickets  ,this  includes  lotto,cash5  and&&instant  tickets ,  their  winngs  are  no  where  near  the  huge  giveback  they  are  in  the  larger  chain  stores;"

The large chains franchise their stores so it's a fact many of them become "mom and pop's" type stores. Do you have any documented proof these huge givebacks don't go to Smith's, Jones', or Brown's Food Mart or are you just guessing?

Unless you have the facts or statistic to prove "welfare  recipients  play  lottery  in  hopes  of  buying  food " or any other reason to play lottery games that is exclusive to only "welfare  recipients", you ought to add "in my opinion" to blanket statements.

"how  can  the  lottery  target  blacks  and  hispanics  and  not  other  races"

Lotteries offer games of chance though there is a degree of hypocrisy that this form of gambling is somehow different because its profits go to education and not to stock holders of large gaming groups. I can patiently wait until you offer any proof the games of chance offered by the state lotteries are the exclusive domains of "blacks  and  hispanics  and  not  other  races".

"I  am  not  saying  dont  play  I  say  we  can  all  be  targeted  the  media  artical  only  pointed  out  the  poor  ....I  am  sure  we  are  all  targets  and  sheep  for  the  slaughter"

Didn't know that; I thought I was playing lottery games because it's fun spending a couple of bucks and taking a chance of winning hundreds and possibly millions of dollars. Should I start buying my tickets in a large chain store where, in your opinion all the jackpots are sold, or should I continue to buy my tickets at the other place where I can flirt with that cute little clerk?

Since I usually pick my own numbers does the lottery monitor my play and make it impossible for me to win as part of your huge conspiracy?

well  I  would  like  to  repeate  something  I  said  before ;PEOPLE  ONLY  SEE  WHAT  THEY  WANT  TO  SEE ......

In  reading   the  replys  to  this  artical  several  people  saw  my  rely  was  about  race  while  others  said  I  was  advocating  for  the  poor  to  win  in  mom  and  pop  neighborhoods  so  they  could  buy  food ....others  sugguested  I  provide  statistics  to  classified  information  while  providing  none  of  their  own proff  that  my  information  was  incorrect ; One  person  saw  the  large  banners  stating  someone  won  a  huge  pile  of  money  at  this  store  and  he  saw  it    at  several  larger  chain  stores&&Funny  people  only  see  the  forest  and  no  trees ;

I  have  never  walked  into  a  small  mom  and  pop  store  and  saw  a  winning  banner  in  my  life in  any  black/hispanic  community  and  I  have  been  to  many  accross  america;

I  want  people  to  win  but  the  distribution  of  winners  for  instant  tickets  needs  more  over  sight&&&sure  all  lottery  jackpot games  are  hard  but  when  it  comes  to instant  tickets  and  quick  pick  games  there  is  no  comparrison  middle  class  whites  get  more ;

Think , lotteys  make  billions  per  week  .....how  they  sell  games  for  money  ...guess  who  wins  regardless ........no  I  dont  trust  the  lottery  or  any  corporate  entriprise  , because MONEY  does  strange  things  to  people...and  then  there  is  GREED  AND  ENVY  who  can  stop  it  ????