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CBS publishes second hatchet job on lottery
nashville United States Member #50355 February 18, 2007 907 Posts Offline
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i didnt like State Rep. Garnett Coleman comparing the lottery to drug dealers. in my opinion there is no comparison between selling illegal drugs and lottery tickets.
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United States Member #54866 August 17, 2007 107 Posts Offline
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It doesn't matter whose sand-box this is. We both have equal abiltiy to speak our minds. You said your opinion, and I said mine. Don't get upset and start implying you are being "silenced" or anything just because I put up a good argument. I never said that there is no corruption at state lotteries. That would be pretty dumb if I did, considering the number of corruption stories I've published here in the past. I said that I think the statement that "blacks are being manipulated" is not only wrong, but insulting. Also, the new article mentions POOR PEOPLE, NOT RACE. The amount of money you have is not a race issue, and I'm not about to make it one. I have no idea where you get your statistics from, because I don't think you're using any. The actual statistics of winning ticket distribution consistently show that there is no bias against any particular geographic or socio-economic areas. It is completely dependent upon the number of tickets bought in the area. Look, I am just voicing my opinions and I am trying to give you the benefit of my experience. I have been keeping abreast of the lottery industry every single day for the past 8 years, as a result of running this site. Of course I have gained a lot of knowledge over that period. It only makes sense! You are 100% entitled to your own opinion, and you can voice it with the same enthusiasm that I voice mine. I am posting my opinions because: - I enjoy discussion lottery topics (why else would I have created this site?)
- I have experience and knowledge to share
- I like to make sure that all viewpoints are represented
- I like to give people such as yourself other opinions to consider
I do not post my opinions in order to censor people. If I wanted to do that I'd erase your post. I don't censor opinions, only spam ads. If you agree or disagree, post away! Lastly, when I readily spout facts and statistics, there is always a segment of people who start saying that I work for a lottery, or that I'm in cahoots with them. So I will say proactively that nothing could be farther from the truth. I have never worked for or with a lottery. My opinions are my own. My facts and statistics are based upon my own research. said that I think the statement that "blacks are being manipulated" is not only wrong, but insulting. Also, the new article mentions POOR PEOPLE, NOT RACE. The amount of money you have is not a race issue, and I'm not about to make it one. I have no idea where you get your statistics from, because I don't think you're using any. The actual statistics of winning ticket distribution consistently show that there is no bias against any particular geographic or socio-economic areas. It is completely dependent upon the number of tickets bought in the area. WeLL I was infering that large chain stores and spermarkets with multiple locations who sell lottery tickets have larger winners with bigger payoffs than in small corner stores: These chain stores are also in the malls and plazzas in middle class america quite different than your foriegn nationals who own the vast number of mom and pop conner markets; When these stores sell lottery tickets ,this includes lotto,cash5 and&&instant tickets , their winngs are no where near the huge giveback they are in the larger chain stores; welfare recipients play lottery in hopes of buying food and moving to a better life after a small windfall this does not happen so they keep trying and trying ...( how can the lottery target blacks and hispanics and not other races / easy use .... corporate Phsychlologcal conditioning : Heck even Freud had no idea what can be the unconditioned responce of people with the right advertisement and media we are Blitzed with today ; | yclopedia | | Sigmund Freud (born Sigismund Freud) May 6 1856 – September 23 1939; (IPA: ['zi?km?nt 'f???t]) was an Austrian neurologist and psychiatrist who co-founded the psychoanalytic school of psychology. Freud is best known for his theories of the unconscious mind, especially involving ... If people can be fooled by majic on national TV or in person, who is to say we cannot be fooled by the lottery , they change the balls they work behind closed doors and we only see the stage set after the manipulation of operations during the draw .....I am not saying dont play I say we can all be targeted the media artical only pointed out the poor ....I am sure we are all targets and sheep for the slaughter: Look at 9/11 and then look at the evidence they have compiled against the 9/11 even though people looked and heard explosions and all the evidence pointing t o a cover up by our own government , yet nothing is done; People feel helpless unless their told what to do @ We often only see what we want to see or expect , yet the truth be told ,we are all manipulated : |
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Viva La Chance! Rockville, MD. United States Member #44542 July 30, 2006 1362 Posts Offline
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Everybody I know that plays numbers are not poor, uneducated, or a so-called minority. Remember what CBS stands for: Conspiratorial Broadcasting System. They maybe #3 of the big three, but the big three are not what they used to be. They are actually much smaller if you compare by viewer shares. Hint: Look at Arbitron or Nielson.
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United States Member #4963 May 30, 2004 2268 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 8, 2007, 3:27 pm - IP Logged |
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If they want a hit piece that works maybe they can cover the problems in the Tennessee Lottery is having and the problems with comuter drawings. U will never "C" an uhahhhhduuah an ah<<<"ATTACK" on the great state of TN.........from abc, cbs, nbc or cnn for..... improper management ..........of the LOTTERY .........."ITSELF"!! because, they are not in the business to INFORM the PUBLIC !! the Lottery Post is about all the INFO on the what's going on "NOW" new's (U or most people gona "GET") LOL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of U need a ....>>>JACKPOT!
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MD United States Member #1735 June 18, 2003 5054 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 8, 2007, 3:29 pm - IP Logged |
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said that I think the statement that "blacks are being manipulated" is not only wrong, but insulting. Also, the new article mentions POOR PEOPLE, NOT RACE. The amount of money you have is not a race issue, and I'm not about to make it one. I have no idea where you get your statistics from, because I don't think you're using any. The actual statistics of winning ticket distribution consistently show that there is no bias against any particular geographic or socio-economic areas. It is completely dependent upon the number of tickets bought in the area. WeLL I was infering that large chain stores and spermarkets with multiple locations who sell lottery tickets have larger winners with bigger payoffs than in small corner stores: These chain stores are also in the malls and plazzas in middle class america quite different than your foriegn nationals who own the vast number of mom and pop conner markets; When these stores sell lottery tickets ,this includes lotto,cash5 and&&instant tickets , their winngs are no where near the huge giveback they are in the larger chain stores; welfare recipients play lottery in hopes of buying food and moving to a better life after a small windfall this does not happen so they keep trying and trying ...( how can the lottery target blacks and hispanics and not other races / easy use .... corporate Phsychlologcal conditioning : Heck even Freud had no idea what can be the unconditioned responce of people with the right advertisement and media we are Blitzed with today ; | yclopedia | | Sigmund Freud (born Sigismund Freud) May 6 1856 – September 23 1939; (IPA: ['zi?km?nt 'f???t]) was an Austrian neurologist and psychiatrist who co-founded the psychoanalytic school of psychology. Freud is best known for his theories of the unconscious mind, especially involving ... If people can be fooled by majic on national TV or in person, who is to say we cannot be fooled by the lottery , they change the balls they work behind closed doors and we only see the stage set after the manipulation of operations during the draw .....I am not saying dont play I say we can all be targeted the media artical only pointed out the poor ....I am sure we are all targets and sheep for the slaughter: Look at 9/11 and then look at the evidence they have compiled against the 9/11 even though people looked and heard explosions and all the evidence pointing t o a cover up by our own government , yet nothing is done; People feel helpless unless their told what to do @ We often only see what we want to see or expect , yet the truth be told ,we are all manipulated : |
It's not necessary to play the race card. People of all walks of life play the lottery and in every city and county where lotteries are sold. Winners come from many state areas also. A ticket holder no mater whom has the same chance of winning as every other ticket holder. I have heard people say no one in Baltimore city has ever won the lottery. This is not a true statement there have been winners they just didn't go public about their win.
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Atlanta United States Member #6302 August 11, 2004 1369 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 8, 2007, 3:43 pm - IP Logged |
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Sometimes, I am not sure which fascinates me the most; The belief that a completely random event can be controlled Or The belief that a completely random event targets a given segment of society and/or individual I do not know about other people and will not bother to post statistics I neither know nor understand. I do know I play based upon my personal interest and thoughts regarding the various games that are available. On occasions, on a gut feel that sometimes wins like the $500 scratch-off that I won last week which I used to put new tires on my vehicle. Now I need that gut feel again because I just wrecked my car and could definitely use a decent size win again.
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Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 14953 Posts Online
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| Posted: October 8, 2007, 4:08 pm - IP Logged |
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said that I think the statement that "blacks are being manipulated" is not only wrong, but insulting. Also, the new article mentions POOR PEOPLE, NOT RACE. The amount of money you have is not a race issue, and I'm not about to make it one. I have no idea where you get your statistics from, because I don't think you're using any. The actual statistics of winning ticket distribution consistently show that there is no bias against any particular geographic or socio-economic areas. It is completely dependent upon the number of tickets bought in the area. WeLL I was infering that large chain stores and spermarkets with multiple locations who sell lottery tickets have larger winners with bigger payoffs than in small corner stores: These chain stores are also in the malls and plazzas in middle class america quite different than your foriegn nationals who own the vast number of mom and pop conner markets; When these stores sell lottery tickets ,this includes lotto,cash5 and&&instant tickets , their winngs are no where near the huge giveback they are in the larger chain stores; welfare recipients play lottery in hopes of buying food and moving to a better life after a small windfall this does not happen so they keep trying and trying ...( how can the lottery target blacks and hispanics and not other races / easy use .... corporate Phsychlologcal conditioning : Heck even Freud had no idea what can be the unconditioned responce of people with the right advertisement and media we are Blitzed with today ; | yclopedia | | Sigmund Freud (born Sigismund Freud) May 6 1856 – September 23 1939; (IPA: ['zi?km?nt 'f???t]) was an Austrian neurologist and psychiatrist who co-founded the psychoanalytic school of psychology. Freud is best known for his theories of the unconscious mind, especially involving ... If people can be fooled by majic on national TV or in person, who is to say we cannot be fooled by the lottery , they change the balls they work behind closed doors and we only see the stage set after the manipulation of operations during the draw .....I am not saying dont play I say we can all be targeted the media artical only pointed out the poor ....I am sure we are all targets and sheep for the slaughter: Look at 9/11 and then look at the evidence they have compiled against the 9/11 even though people looked and heard explosions and all the evidence pointing t o a cover up by our own government , yet nothing is done; People feel helpless unless their told what to do @ We often only see what we want to see or expect , yet the truth be told ,we are all manipulated : |
Oh my.... now you're saying that there is some deep-rooted psychology behind the lottery and that they "choose" the winning stores because middle-class people play there. You're also making blanket statements that are just untrue. Can you please show me a real statistic that shows supermarkets sell more winning tickets than mom & pop stores? Not a statistic that you claim is real, but actually show the numbers and source. The only way supermarkets would sell more winning tickets is if they SOLD more tickets than mom & pop stores. So you tell me: if supermarkets happened to sell more lottery tickets than mom & pop stores, should they or should they not produce more winners? It sounds to me like you are advocating that the lottery manipulate the winning tickets so that an unfair number of winning tickets are sold in mom & pop stores -- that they should do it because some people happen to "need" the money more than other people. The lottery is entertainment, not an income source. If the lottery did what you suggest it would not be in existence anymore because people would stop playing. In fact, we already have a system in place like you're suggesting: it's called "taxes".
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Atwater, Ohio United States Member #33045 February 14, 2006 1173 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 8, 2007, 5:13 pm - IP Logged |
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said that I think the statement that "blacks are being manipulated" is not only wrong, but insulting. Also, the new article mentions POOR PEOPLE, NOT RACE. The amount of money you have is not a race issue, and I'm not about to make it one. I have no idea where you get your statistics from, because I don't think you're using any. The actual statistics of winning ticket distribution consistently show that there is no bias against any particular geographic or socio-economic areas. It is completely dependent upon the number of tickets bought in the area. WeLL I was infering that large chain stores and spermarkets with multiple locations who sell lottery tickets have larger winners with bigger payoffs than in small corner stores: These chain stores are also in the malls and plazzas in middle class america quite different than your foriegn nationals who own the vast number of mom and pop conner markets; When these stores sell lottery tickets ,this includes lotto,cash5 and&&instant tickets , their winngs are no where near the huge giveback they are in the larger chain stores; welfare recipients play lottery in hopes of buying food and moving to a better life after a small windfall this does not happen so they keep trying and trying ...( how can the lottery target blacks and hispanics and not other races / easy use .... corporate Phsychlologcal conditioning : Heck even Freud had no idea what can be the unconditioned responce of people with the right advertisement and media we are Blitzed with today ; | yclopedia | | Sigmund Freud (born Sigismund Freud) May 6 1856 – September 23 1939; (IPA: ['zi?km?nt 'f???t]) was an Austrian neurologist and psychiatrist who co-founded the psychoanalytic school of psychology. Freud is best known for his theories of the unconscious mind, especially involving ... If people can be fooled by majic on national TV or in person, who is to say we cannot be fooled by the lottery , they change the balls they work behind closed doors and we only see the stage set after the manipulation of operations during the draw .....I am not saying dont play I say we can all be targeted the media artical only pointed out the poor ....I am sure we are all targets and sheep for the slaughter: Look at 9/11 and then look at the evidence they have compiled against the 9/11 even though people looked and heard explosions and all the evidence pointing t o a cover up by our own government , yet nothing is done; People feel helpless unless their told what to do @ We often only see what we want to see or expect , yet the truth be told ,we are all manipulated : |
"WeLL I was infering that large chain stores and spermarkets with multiple locations who sell lottery tickets have larger winners with bigger payoffs than in small corner stores:" I was in one of those large chain convenience type stores early this morning in a very small town and saw a sign above the lottery machine saying that a $232,000 Rolling Cash winner was sold at that store. There is also a competing large chain convenience type store on the other side of town and a Mega Million jackpot ticket was sold at one of the chains other stores in another city a couple of years ago. Is the state lottery commission taking turns distributing large winners among large chain convenience type stores and neglecting stores part of your conspiracy theory? "These chain stores are also in the malls and plazzas in middle class america quite different than your foriegn nationals who own the vast number of mom and pop conner markets; When these stores sell lottery tickets ,this includes lotto,cash5 and&&instant tickets , their winngs are no where near the huge giveback they are in the larger chain stores;" The large chains franchise their stores so it's a fact many of them become "mom and pop's" type stores. Do you have any documented proof these huge givebacks don't go to Smith's, Jones', or Brown's Food Mart or are you just guessing? Unless you have the facts or statistic to prove "welfare recipients play lottery in hopes of buying food " or any other reason to play lottery games that is exclusive to only "welfare recipients", you ought to add "in my opinion" to blanket statements. "how can the lottery target blacks and hispanics and not other races" Lotteries offer games of chance though there is a degree of hypocrisy that this form of gambling is somehow different because its profits go to education and not to stock holders of large gaming groups. I can patiently wait until you offer any proof the games of chance offered by the state lotteries are the exclusive domains of "blacks and hispanics and not other races". "I am not saying dont play I say we can all be targeted the media artical only pointed out the poor ....I am sure we are all targets and sheep for the slaughter" Didn't know that; I thought I was playing lottery games because it's fun spending a couple of bucks and taking a chance of winning hundreds and possibly millions of dollars. Should I start buying my tickets in a large chain store where, in your opinion all the jackpots are sold, or should I continue to buy my tickets at the other place where I can flirt with that cute little clerk? Since I usually pick my own numbers does the lottery monitor my play and make it impossible for me to win as part of your huge conspiracy?
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Atwater, Ohio United States Member #33045 February 14, 2006 1173 Posts Offline
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Oh my.... now you're saying that there is some deep-rooted psychology behind the lottery and that they "choose" the winning stores because middle-class people play there. You're also making blanket statements that are just untrue. Can you please show me a real statistic that shows supermarkets sell more winning tickets than mom & pop stores? Not a statistic that you claim is real, but actually show the numbers and source. The only way supermarkets would sell more winning tickets is if they SOLD more tickets than mom & pop stores. So you tell me: if supermarkets happened to sell more lottery tickets than mom & pop stores, should they or should they not produce more winners? It sounds to me like you are advocating that the lottery manipulate the winning tickets so that an unfair number of winning tickets are sold in mom & pop stores -- that they should do it because some people happen to "need" the money more than other people. The lottery is entertainment, not an income source. If the lottery did what you suggest it would not be in existence anymore because people would stop playing. In fact, we already have a system in place like you're suggesting: it's called "taxes". "It sounds to me like you are advocating that the lottery manipulate the winning tickets so that an unfair number of winning tickets are sold in mom & pop stores -- that they should do it because some people happen to "need" the money more than other people." Public assistance comes from tax dollars and if it's true that mostly welfare recipients play lottery games and the lottery commissions can determine which store sells the most winners, wouldn't it make more sense to let those welfare recipients win so they are no longer a tax burden? It would be fun reading all the feedback if CBS ever does an exposé on church run Bingo games.
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United States Member #54866 August 17, 2007 107 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 8, 2007, 6:49 pm - IP Logged |
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"WeLL I was infering that large chain stores and spermarkets with multiple locations who sell lottery tickets have larger winners with bigger payoffs than in small corner stores:" I was in one of those large chain convenience type stores early this morning in a very small town and saw a sign above the lottery machine saying that a $232,000 Rolling Cash winner was sold at that store. There is also a competing large chain convenience type store on the other side of town and a Mega Million jackpot ticket was sold at one of the chains other stores in another city a couple of years ago. Is the state lottery commission taking turns distributing large winners among large chain convenience type stores and neglecting stores part of your conspiracy theory? "These chain stores are also in the malls and plazzas in middle class america quite different than your foriegn nationals who own the vast number of mom and pop conner markets; When these stores sell lottery tickets ,this includes lotto,cash5 and&&instant tickets , their winngs are no where near the huge giveback they are in the larger chain stores;" The large chains franchise their stores so it's a fact many of them become "mom and pop's" type stores. Do you have any documented proof these huge givebacks don't go to Smith's, Jones', or Brown's Food Mart or are you just guessing? Unless you have the facts or statistic to prove "welfare recipients play lottery in hopes of buying food " or any other reason to play lottery games that is exclusive to only "welfare recipients", you ought to add "in my opinion" to blanket statements. "how can the lottery target blacks and hispanics and not other races" Lotteries offer games of chance though there is a degree of hypocrisy that this form of gambling is somehow different because its profits go to education and not to stock holders of large gaming groups. I can patiently wait until you offer any proof the games of chance offered by the state lotteries are the exclusive domains of "blacks and hispanics and not other races". "I am not saying dont play I say we can all be targeted the media artical only pointed out the poor ....I am sure we are all targets and sheep for the slaughter" Didn't know that; I thought I was playing lottery games because it's fun spending a couple of bucks and taking a chance of winning hundreds and possibly millions of dollars. Should I start buying my tickets in a large chain store where, in your opinion all the jackpots are sold, or should I continue to buy my tickets at the other place where I can flirt with that cute little clerk? Since I usually pick my own numbers does the lottery monitor my play and make it impossible for me to win as part of your huge conspiracy? well I would like to repeate something I said before ;PEOPLE ONLY SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE ...... In reading the replys to this artical several people saw my rely was about race while others said I was advocating for the poor to win in mom and pop neighborhoods so they could buy food ....others sugguested I provide statistics to classified information while providing none of their own proff that my information was incorrect ; One person saw the large banners stating someone won a huge pile of money at this store and he saw it at several larger chain stores&&Funny people only see the forest and no trees ; I have never walked into a small mom and pop store and saw a winning banner in my life in any black/hispanic community and I have been to many accross america; I want people to win but the distribution of winners for instant tickets needs more over sight&&&sure all lottery jackpot games are hard but when it comes to instant tickets and quick pick games there is no comparrison middle class whites get more ; Think , lotteys make billions per week .....how they sell games for money ...guess who wins regardless ........no I dont trust the lottery or any corporate entriprise , because MONEY does strange things to people...and then there is GREED AND ENVY who can stop it ????
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