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Posted: October 9, 2007, 2:30 pm - IP Logged Bottom

whats  with  everyone  placeing    the  Race  Card  - on  me  for  it was  in  the news - article-  and  God  forbid  I  aggreed  with  the- news  agency:  lets  see  what  did  they  say:????(like  I  said- people  see  what  they- want- to  see :)

CBS said ;

"It's a shift of the cost of government onto people who can least afford it," says State Rep. Garnett Coleman, who has represented this neighborhood for 17 years. "Is a drug dealer responsible when they sell to the person?" Coleman asks. "If somebody says, 'yeah,' then the state is responsible for hooking the people on the gaming, on the lottery."

"You're selling hope," says Rob Kohler, who worked 12 years for the Texas Lottery and is now a private consultant in Austin. It was his analysis of lottery sales data that opened Coleman's eyes, revealing who the majority of heavy players are.

"It's coming from the folks, you know, high minority, low education, and low income," Kohler says. "That can least afford to play the game."

Texas lottery spokesman Bobby Heith does not dispute the data. "The data is what it is. We don't target groups of people," Heith says.

In Texas, Blacks and Hispanics outspend Whites nearly two to one on lottery tickets. According to a 2005 Texas Tech demographic survey commissioned by the lottery, blacks in Texas spend $109 a month on lottery tickets, Hispanics spend $102, and whites spend $55.

"We put out Hispanic ads mainly because for Spanish speaking people. I mean, it's good business," Heith says. "We don't want to prey on anybody. We're here to run a business for the state."

Actually I'm kind of confused. I'm wondering why you are comparing where you live to Texas? What the article doesn't say is what the demographics are for the population in Texas. I have a very good feeling that there probably are more Hispanics and Blacks there. If you conduct a study in a state which has more of nationality then of course they should be the ones spending more money. Also if your ever in the Ft. Campbell, Ky Area you will see that most all the mom & pop stores in this area have sold big winners and before TN had lottery there was a black man from the Nashville area who had a co-worker drive up to Oak Grove , Ky and bought him some Powerball tickets. That man won somewhere around 89.3 million dollars and also gave the co-worker something for buying his tickets. Blacks, white, and people from all walks of life win. I don't beleive what you say about where the winners come from with online games but you may have a point with scratch offs. There is a store in Oak Grove, Ky that has sold a lot of Grand prize winners on scratch offs.

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Actually I'm kind of confused. I'm wondering why you are comparing where you live to Texas? What the article doesn't say is what the demographics are for the population in Texas. I have a very good feeling that there probably are more Hispanics and Blacks there. If you conduct a study in a state which has more of nationality then of course they should be the ones spending more money. Also if your ever in the Ft. Campbell, Ky Area you will see that most all the mom & pop stores in this area have sold big winners and before TN had lottery there was a black man from the Nashville area who had a co-worker drive up to Oak Grove , Ky and bought him some Powerball tickets. That man won somewhere around 89.3 million dollars and also gave the co-worker something for buying his tickets. Blacks, white, and people from all walks of life win. I don't beleive what you say about where the winners come from with online games but you may have a point with scratch offs. There is a store in Oak Grove, Ky that has sold a lot of Grand prize winners on scratch offs.

SmileyMost polls are slanted. And you have to consider the margin of error as well.  And most of all - you have to consider the source.  You especially have to be careful of special interest groups.  You can pigeon hole just about anything to make a point. If you just fell off a turnip truck you will believe anything and the media and politicians know that.  Whether you are within the ignorant masses is what's important. 

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Posted: October 9, 2007, 5:22 pm - IP Logged Top

SmileyMost polls are slanted. And you have to consider the margin of error as well.  And most of all - you have to consider the source.  You especially have to be careful of special interest groups.  You can pigeon hole just about anything to make a point. If you just fell off a turnip truck you will believe anything and the media and politicians know that.  Whether you are within the ignorant masses is what's important. 

just  who  a re& you  refering  to  as  (  iggnorant  masses)& and  (just&fell of  a  turnip  truck) ;

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Actually I'm kind of confused. I'm wondering why you are comparing where you live to Texas? What the article doesn't say is what the demographics are for the population in Texas. I have a very good feeling that there probably are more Hispanics and Blacks there. If you conduct a study in a state which has more of nationality then of course they should be the ones spending more money. Also if your ever in the Ft. Campbell, Ky Area you will see that most all the mom & pop stores in this area have sold big winners and before TN had lottery there was a black man from the Nashville area who had a co-worker drive up to Oak Grove , Ky and bought him some Powerball tickets. That man won somewhere around 89.3 million dollars and also gave the co-worker something for buying his tickets. Blacks, white, and people from all walks of life win. I don't beleive what you say about where the winners come from with online games but you may have a point with scratch offs. There is a store in Oak Grove, Ky that has sold a lot of Grand prize winners on scratch offs.

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Posted: October 9, 2007, 6:25 pm - IP Logged Top

your  right  ,  under  the  current  lottery  operatons  there  is  no  way  to  convince  me ;

Put  the  state  police  at  each  of  the  drawings  and  have  the  state  appoint  an  attorney  general  to  oversee  the  legal  contracts  which  go  on  everyday  behind closed  doors  ;

inspect  the  ball  machines  and  the  balls  themselves  everyday  put  that  live  and  on  TV  ;

give  back  money   to  the  community/ players    that  put  money  into  the  process....   in  other  words  give  the  players  a  better  shot  at  winning&&Some  players  expect    to  loose,  not  me  I  expect  the  sysyem  to  lose  sometime  ,...  but  not  the  lottery  their  winning  streek  continues  unchecked  and  unchanged because  to  think  otherwise is  downright  foolish  oh  yaH  and  playing  a  RACE  CARD.........  Lets  all  be  obedient  and  belive  nothing  is    going  on  xxx

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computerhead723,

do you honestly think that by placing State Police at the drawings make them anymore secure than with another firm? The State Police have been shown to be just as crooked. Also why would the state appoint another Attorney General, when they already have one.

The lottery is in business to make money, not give it away. If you want better odds get in a card game and leave the lottery to others who are going to take a chance , even at long odds.

 After reading this thread it seems like to me that you're looking for an arguement on your beliefs alone instead of just voicing your opinion for what you think is happening.

I would think if your that dissatisfied with the LOTTERY, you would'nt play it..! Oh, by the way the Lottery does'nt sell hope , they let you decide if you want a piece of the pie and they let YOU make that decision, they're not pressing you to buy ,it's voluntary. Your choice and yours alone.......

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I never did like that lady, even when she was hosting the Today show. I may start watching CBS news again when she leaves. Depends on who replaces her. I play the lottery because I enjoy doing it. I do not play my whole pay check. I only pay for a few tickets. I play mostly when the pots are large enough where I could retire on. I still play even when they are not so large, because I could still relax and enjoy the good thinsg of life with my family. Everyone says that is all it is a "Dream", but everyone needs a dream to go on. I know usually only one ticket wins, but if you don't play it, how will you win it? And who knows, I could be that one ticket one day. But knowing my luck, I would probably have a heart attack and die, before I could even really spend and enjoy any of it.

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Posted: October 9, 2007, 11:14 pm - IP Logged Top

I agree CBS's story is completely skewed, and it leaves out some important facts about lottery sales in general. IGWB magazine, (International Gaming and Wagering Business), recently published information about lottery business worldwide, and it indicated that sales of number-based games like Pick 3,4,5,6 etc have been steadily slipping for years, and are offset by the more rapid growth in sales of instant scratch games. When I'm in convenience stores, or grocery stores, that's more of what I see being bought and cashed than any lottery games.

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SmileyMost polls are slanted. And you have to consider the margin of error as well.  And most of all - you have to consider the source.  You especially have to be careful of special interest groups.  You can pigeon hole just about anything to make a point. If you just fell off a turnip truck you will believe anything and the media and politicians know that.  Whether you are within the ignorant masses is what's important. 

  • just  who  are you  refering  to  when  you  say  "the  ignorant  masses "????
  • 2. Who can fall  off  a  turnip - truck  , you will  believe  anything????  Boxing 
  • First  most  CBS  documentries are  validated  with  multiple  evidence, since  they  heve  been  sued  for reportin  false  news  before;
  • Its  When  they won't report ,  thats  when    I  question  their  integrity ;
  • such  as  9/11and  the  Stock  trade  before  9/11 PUT Options - against  American  Airlines  and the  world  trade  center  being  insured  for  8  Billion (Terrorest- insurance)  all the  news  agencys  are  quiet  as  church  mice :Mad
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Posted: October 10, 2007, 12:03 am - IP Logged Top

Conspiracy theories and race riots aside, those COMMERCIALS for the Lottery (and the Casinos) are annoying!!! Maybe if they cut the advertising budget they'd have more to give back to players and that would increase interest in playing!

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Posted: October 10, 2007, 9:06 am - IP Logged Top

Foot traffic in larger stores provides greater exposure and precipitates more ticket sales which increases likelihood but doesn't guarantee more winners. More bodies through the door, more sales of all kinds.

 

Second, in order to succeed/win someone must have a winning mindset, not just a desire or need to win.& Anyone who saw the movie "The Secret" viewable on the web and checked out the many spinoff sites for "Law of Attraction" discovers a winning mindset has no conspiratorial bias .....  anyone anywhere can cultivate it through practice and belief they can succeed/win.  Oprah seems to agree so much she had a show about it.

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