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Sometimes, I am not sure which fascinates me the most; The belief that a completely random event can be controlled Or The belief that a completely random event targets a given segment of society and/or individual I do not know about other people and will not bother to post statistics I neither know nor understand. I do know I play based upon my personal interest and thoughts regarding the various games that are available. On occasions, on a gut feel that sometimes wins like the $500 scratch-off that I won last week which I used to put new tires on my vehicle. 

Now I need that gut feel again because I just wrecked my car and could definitely use a decent size win again.

Quote: Originally posted by computerhead723 on October 8, 2007

said that I think the statement that "blacks are being manipulated" is not only wrong, but insulting.  Also, the new article mentions POOR PEOPLE, NOT RACE.  The amount of money you have is not a race issue, and I'm not about to make it one.

I have no idea where you get your statistics from, because I don't think you're using any.  The actual statistics of winning ticket distribution consistently show that there is no bias against any particular geographic or socio-economic areas.  It is completely dependent upon the number of tickets bought in the area.

 

WeLL  I  was  infering  that  large  chain  stores    and  spermarkets  with  multiple  locations  who  sell  lottery  tickets  have  larger  winners  with  bigger  payoffs  than  in  small  corner  stores: These  chain  stores  are  also  in  the  malls  and  plazzas  in  middle  class  america  quite  different  than  your  foriegn  nationals  who   own  the  vast  number  of  mom  and  pop  conner  markets; When  these  stores  sell  lottery  tickets  ,this  includes  lotto,cash5  and&&instant  tickets ,  their  winngs  are  no  where  near  the  huge  giveback  they  are  in  the  larger  chain  stores;

 welfare  recipients  play  lottery  in  hopes  of  buying  food  and  moving  to  a  better  life  after  a  small  windfall this  does  not  happen  so  they  keep  trying and  trying  ...(  how  can  the  lottery  target  blacks  and  hispanics  and  not  other  races  /

easy  use  .... corporate  Phsychlologcal  conditioning  : Heck  even  Freud  had  no  idea  what  can  be the    unconditioned  responce  of  people  with  the  right  advertisement  and  media  we  are  Blitzed  with  today ;

 

 

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Source Sigmund Freud Sigmund Freud (born Sigismund Freud) May 6 1856 – September 23 1939; (IPA: ['zi?km?nt 'f???t]) was an Austrian neurologist and psychiatrist who co-founded the psychoanalytic school of psychology. Freud is best known for his theories of the unconscious mind, especially involving ... More » If  people  can  be  fooled  by  majic  on  national  TV  or  in  person,  who  is  to  say  we  cannot  be  fooled  by  the  lottery  , they  change  the  balls  they  work  behind  closed  doors  and  we  only  see  the  stage  set  after  the  manipulation of operations  during  the  draw  .....I  am  not  saying  dont  play  I  say  we  can  all  be  targeted  the  media  artical  only  pointed  out  the  poor  ....I  am  sure  we  are  all  targets  and  sheep  for  the  slaughter:  Look  at  9/11  and  then  look  at  the  evidence  they  have  compiled  against  the  9/11  even  though  people  looked  and   heard  explosions  and  all  the  evidence  pointing t o  a  cover  up  by  our  own  government  , yet  nothing  is  done; People  feel  helpless  unless  their  told  what  to  do  @    We  often  only  see  what  we  want  to  see  or  expect , yet  the  truth  be  told  ,we  are  all  manipulated :

Oh my.... now you're saying that there is some deep-rooted psychology behind the lottery and that they "choose" the winning stores because middle-class people play there.

You're also making blanket statements that are just untrue.  Can you please show me a real statistic that shows supermarkets sell more winning tickets than mom & pop stores?  Not a statistic that you claim is real, but actually show the numbers and source.

The only way supermarkets would sell more winning tickets is if they SOLD more tickets than mom & pop stores.

So you tell me: if supermarkets happened to sell more lottery tickets than mom & pop stores, should they or should they not produce more winners?

It sounds to me like you are advocating that the lottery manipulate the winning tickets so that an unfair number of winning tickets are sold in mom & pop stores -- that they should do it because some people happen to "need" the money more than other people.

The lottery is entertainment, not an income source.  If the lottery did what you suggest it would not be in existence anymore because people would stop playing.  In fact, we already have a system in place like you're suggesting:  it's called "taxes".

Quote: Originally posted by computerhead723 on October 8, 2007

said that I think the statement that "blacks are being manipulated" is not only wrong, but insulting.  Also, the new article mentions POOR PEOPLE, NOT RACE.  The amount of money you have is not a race issue, and I'm not about to make it one.

I have no idea where you get your statistics from, because I don't think you're using any.  The actual statistics of winning ticket distribution consistently show that there is no bias against any particular geographic or socio-economic areas.  It is completely dependent upon the number of tickets bought in the area.

 

WeLL  I  was  infering  that  large  chain  stores    and  spermarkets  with  multiple  locations  who  sell  lottery  tickets  have  larger  winners  with  bigger  payoffs  than  in  small  corner  stores: These  chain  stores  are  also  in  the  malls  and  plazzas  in  middle  class  america  quite  different  than  your  foriegn  nationals  who   own  the  vast  number  of  mom  and  pop  conner  markets; When  these  stores  sell  lottery  tickets  ,this  includes  lotto,cash5  and&&instant  tickets ,  their  winngs  are  no  where  near  the  huge  giveback  they  are  in  the  larger  chain  stores;

 welfare  recipients  play  lottery  in  hopes  of  buying  food  and  moving  to  a  better  life  after  a  small  windfall this  does  not  happen  so  they  keep  trying and  trying  ...(  how  can  the  lottery  target  blacks  and  hispanics  and  not  other  races  /

easy  use  .... corporate  Phsychlologcal  conditioning  : Heck  even  Freud  had  no  idea  what  can  be the    unconditioned  responce  of  people  with  the  right  advertisement  and  media  we  are  Blitzed  with  today ;

 

 

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"WeLL  I  was  infering  that  large  chain  stores    and  spermarkets  with  multiple  locations  who  sell  lottery  tickets  have  larger  winners  with  bigger  payoffs  than  in  small  corner  stores:"

I was in one of those large chain convenience type stores early this morning in a very small town and saw a sign above the lottery machine saying that a $232,000 Rolling Cash winner was sold at that store. There is also a competing large chain convenience type store on the other side of town and a Mega Million jackpot ticket was sold at one of the chains other stores in another city a couple of years ago. Is the state lottery commission taking turns distributing large winners among large chain convenience type stores and neglecting stores part of your conspiracy theory?

"These  chain  stores  are  also  in  the  malls  and  plazzas  in  middle  class  america  quite  different  than  your  foriegn  nationals  who   own  the  vast  number  of  mom  and  pop  conner  markets; When  these  stores  sell  lottery  tickets  ,this  includes  lotto,cash5  and&&instant  tickets ,  their  winngs  are  no  where  near  the  huge  giveback  they  are  in  the  larger  chain  stores;"

The large chains franchise their stores so it's a fact many of them become "mom and pop's" type stores. Do you have any documented proof these huge givebacks don't go to Smith's, Jones', or Brown's Food Mart or are you just guessing?

Unless you have the facts or statistic to prove "welfare  recipients  play  lottery  in  hopes  of  buying  food " or any other reason to play lottery games that is exclusive to only "welfare  recipients", you ought to add "in my opinion" to blanket statements.

"how  can  the  lottery  target  blacks  and  hispanics  and  not  other  races"

Lotteries offer games of chance though there is a degree of hypocrisy that this form of gambling is somehow different because its profits go to education and not to stock holders of large gaming groups. I can patiently wait until you offer any proof the games of chance offered by the state lotteries are the exclusive domains of "blacks  and  hispanics  and  not  other  races".

"I  am  not  saying  dont  play  I  say  we  can  all  be  targeted  the  media  artical  only  pointed  out  the  poor  ....I  am  sure  we  are  all  targets  and  sheep  for  the  slaughter"

Didn't know that; I thought I was playing lottery games because it's fun spending a couple of bucks and taking a chance of winning hundreds and possibly millions of dollars. Should I start buying my tickets in a large chain store where, in your opinion all the jackpots are sold, or should I continue to buy my tickets at the other place where I can flirt with that cute little clerk?

Since I usually pick my own numbers does the lottery monitor my play and make it impossible for me to win as part of your huge conspiracy?

"It sounds to me like you are advocating that the lottery manipulate the winning tickets so that an unfair number of winning tickets are sold in mom & pop stores -- that they should do it because some people happen to "need" the money more than other people."

Public assistance comes from tax dollars and if it's true that mostly welfare recipients play lottery games and the lottery commissions can determine which store sells the most winners, wouldn't it make more sense to let those welfare recipients win so they are no longer a tax burden?

It would be fun reading all the feedback if CBS ever does an exposé on church run Bingo games.

well  I  would  like  to  repeate  something  I  said  before ;PEOPLE  ONLY  SEE  WHAT  THEY  WANT  TO  SEE ......

In  reading   the  replys  to  this  artical  several  people  saw  my  rely  was  about  race  while  others  said  I  was  advocating  for  the  poor  to  win  in  mom  and  pop  neighborhoods  so  they  could  buy  food ....others  sugguested  I  provide  statistics  to  classified  information  while  providing  none  of  their  own proff  that  my  information  was  incorrect ; One  person  saw  the  large  banners  stating  someone  won  a  huge  pile  of  money  at  this  store  and  he  saw  it    at  several  larger  chain  stores&&Funny  people  only  see  the  forest  and  no  trees ;

I  have  never  walked  into  a  small  mom  and  pop  store  and  saw  a  winning  banner  in  my  life in  any  black/hispanic  community  and  I  have  been  to  many  accross  america;

I  want  people  to  win  but  the  distribution  of  winners  for  instant  tickets  needs  more  over  sight&&&sure  all  lottery  jackpot games  are  hard  but  when  it  comes  to instant  tickets  and  quick  pick  games  there  is  no  comparrison  middle  class  whites  get  more ;

Think , lotteys  make  billions  per  week  .....how  they  sell  games  for  money  ...guess  who  wins  regardless ........no  I  dont  trust  the  lottery  or  any  corporate  entriprise  , because MONEY  does  strange  things  to  people...and  then  there  is  GREED  AND  ENVY  who  can  stop  it  ???? 

I GUESS YOU DON'T LOOK VERY HARD.

I have seen lots of banners in mom & pop stores.  I am even friends with a mom & pop store owner (owns 2 stores) who had a Mega Millions jackpot winner in her store, and they have an enormous banner in the window.

Rise up out of your own line of vision to comprehend that your experiences aren't necessarily indicative of reality! 

There is a reason that people are trying to explain to you these things. 

They want you to understand that there is a much larger, happier world out there in which the lottery is not engaging in a conspiracy against certain groups of people!

Thank "U"......Todd!

"YOU".....................yes >>>>>>>>>>>>"YOU"

should be honest with all the member's >>>>>>>on Lottery POST!

"PLEASE" tell us what school of journalism..............you gradulated?

............HAVARD, YALE, maby Dartmouth ????????????????????????

YOU appear to "know"

how to report the ^^ "news" ....better/d-network

 "WE" L@@K forward to Ceen'n U on the TLC soon!!

Check out this mom and pop store:

http://blogs.lotterypost.com/jarasan/2007/06/dc-lotterys-best-tenley-market.htm

All we need is a PowerBall jackpot, they've hit everything else.

I  look  very  well  thank  you  but  get the  picture  reality  starts  with  questioning  authority.

Rise up out of your own line of vision to comprehend that your experiences aren't necessarily indicative of reality!

Wow  Todd , if  I  didn't  know  better  I  swear  you  were  insulting  me  and saying  I  had  lost my  mind , seeing  that  my  personal  experiences  were not  indicative  of  reality ???

In  the  larger  cities  real  mom  and  pop  stores  are  run  by  foriegn  nationals  with  competition

some  times  less  than  a  block  away  and  within  3 -5  block  radius  there is  a huge  supermarkets :  thats  competition  and  yyet  its  suported  the  neighborhoods,  Ii  dont  frankly  care  if  people  chose  to  ignor  the  facts    and  chose  to  believe  the  lie&

The  facts  speak  for  themselves  ,  do  you  see  millionairs  running  around  in  low  income  neighborhoods  ,...No .........me  either  ....did  they  buy  a  winning  ticket  at  Moms  OR  CHANG  LEE S  MARKET  and  become  wealthy  or  set  for  life  ....No ......

case  closed

"I  have  never  walked  into  a  small  mom  and  pop  store  and  saw  a  winning  banner  in  my  life in  any  black/hispanic  community  and  I  have  been  to  many  accross  america; "

Every time somebody makes this type of statement, I feel compelled to look for what they didn't see but I guess I'm lucky this time because I can't find "black/hispanic  community" on my map. Maybe you could elaborate on why you go into so many black/hispanic mom and pop stores across America. Where can I find one in NE Ohio?

"when  it  comes  to instant  tickets  and  quick  pick  games  there  is  no  comparrison  middle  class  whites  get  more " 

I suppose asking for any kind of data to back that up is out of the question?

well  if  you  stop  chasing  people  with  a  burning  cross  and  chains  in  the  other  hand   and.....  loose  the  white  robe  ...then   some  nice  black  lottery  player  will  show  you  his    neighborhood:

You may have the case closed, but I haven't begun to understand what case is closed!

We obviously disagree about a lot of stuff, so let's agree to disagree.

I would love to understand your bottom line about what you believe the lottery is doing.

What is the lottery's role in all of this?  If you could please explain it in as simple terms as possible, that would help me, because sometimes I'm a little slow.

Which part of the whole thing do they manipulate?  Do they change the lottery results to make sure a particular store wins?  Or is it something else?

There are other people who have similar thoughts to yours, so although you don't speak for all of them, maybe you could shed some light.

"some  times  less  than  a  block  away  and  within  3 -5  block  radius  there is  a huge  supermarkets :  thats  competition  and  yyet  its  suported  the  neighborhoods,  Ii  dont  frankly  care  if  people  chose  to  ignor  the  facts    and  chose  to  believe  the  lie&"

Within about the same radius there is a supermarket, 2 gas stations with food marts, a convenient store and 2 drive-thru's in my neighborhood; and they all sell lottery tickets. Maybe people buy tickets when they buy their groceries, gas, bread and milk, or beer, but there are no facts supporting any one these stores will sell more large prize winning tickets.

"The  facts  speak  for  themselves"

Discussing the facts would be a change of pace from your opinions of mom and pop stores across America.

Well speaking as an African-American here in NC(charlotte) I don't see the lottery targeting any specific race, they even run messages encouraging people to play responsibly. And we do have minority's here that have hit it big. there was a jackpot winner from charlotte who bought his ticket in SC before Nc offered the lottery and he was an african-american(won $80 million) and just last year a correctional guard from Raleigh(African-American female) won $22 Million in the power-ball so let's get off the race kick it all comes down to just how lucky you are to win the "GREEN"

first  question:

I would love to understand your bottom line about what you believe the lottery is doing.

What is the lottery's role in all of this?  If you could please explain it in as simple terms as possible, that would help me, because sometimes I'm a little slow"

First  Goal  of  the  lottery  is  to  raise  revenue  ,just  who  gets  the  Bulk  of  that  revenue  is  questionable and  classifyed  information: 

How  they  retain  a  steady  winning  streak  ( here  in  NY)  is  beyound  me  but  suggest  manipulation  of  the  draw  machines  by  weighted  balls  and  player  habits  since  tracking  players  bets  are  a  by-product  of  computer  sysyems  ; this  is  where  I  have  my  issue  with  GETEC  and  outfits  simmular  to  them; GETC  first  coustmers  were  cassino's  and  video  slot  machines  -these  are  computer  controled  and  fiber  optic  upgraded  ;  which  means  if  they  downloded 30 Gb  it  would  take  less  than    3  hours  but  if  it  were  a  56K  line ( plain  old  telephone  line  )  it  would  take  a  month  to  download   30Gb. .......with  high  tech  software  and   equipment  throw  in  some  Professional  Advertisement  and  a  paid  consultant    psychiatrist ,  would  insure  a  high  yeild  proffit  on  running  a  lottery: Dont   look  at  just  the  lottery  look  at  those  behind  the  scen  like  KGMG  and  GETEC  here  all  involved ,  they  all  have  an  interest  we  think  just  as  you  suggest ....  its  fair...they  wouldn't  cheat  ...ok  ??/   and  prying  on  little  small  mom  and  pops  stores  make  up  50%    of  retailers  in  the  system ,  they  are  the  cash  cow ;

Consider a paradox outlined by London School of Economics economist Richard Lay¿ard in Happiness (Penguin, 2005), in which he shows that we are no happier even though average incomes have more than doubled since 1950 and "we have more food, more clothes, more cars, bigger houses, more central heating, more foreign holidays, a shorter working week, nicer work and, above all, better health." Once average annual income is above $20,000 a head, higher pay brings no greater happiness. Why? One, our genes account for roughly half of our predisposition to be happy or unhappy, and two, our wants are relative to what other people have, not to some absolute measure.

Happiness is better equated with satisfaction than pleasure, says Emory University psychiatrist Gregory Berns in Satisfaction (Henry Holt, 2005), because the pursuit of pleasure lands us on a never-ending hedonic treadmill that paradoxically leads to misery. "Satisfaction is an emotion that captures the uniquely human need to impart meaning to one's activities," Berns concludes. "While you might find pleasure by happenstance--winning the lottery, possessing the genes for a sunny temperament, or having the luck not to live in poverty--satisfaction can arise only by the conscious decision to do something. And this makes all the difference in the world, because it is only your own actions for which you may take responsibility and credit."