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TENNESSEE LOTTERY MAY BE FORCED BACK TO REAL DRAWINGS

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Posted: October 9, 2007, 1:35 pm - IP Logged Bottom

A call for an overhaul is coming because of three major mistakes in just one month; the first in August when a computer glitch caused problems with the Lottery's Cash 3 and Cash 4 drawlings.

A few weeks later, the wrong jackpot was printed on Lottery tickets.

A little more than a week after that incident, the wrong numbers for Cash 3 and Cash 4 were televised.

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Now the first item above is definitely a problem with RNG.  But what do the second two have to do with using RNG?  They are more the result of a Lottery Commission that is incompetent.  The same two problems would occur whether or not TN was using RNG.  Seems like going back to mechanical drawings is a way of deflecting attention away from an incompetent department in the state of TN ; a typical political move that politicians use routinely on many matters.

 Computers are used to print the tickets and a computer is used for the televised draw. The giving out a Adult Chat number was a Lottery Commission being incompetent.

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Posted: October 9, 2007, 3:49 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

KyMystikal makes a good point.  The ATM you pull cash out of is a computer, computers tally your cost at the grocery store.  We rely on machines for most everything any more. 

Computers aren't the problem...

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Posted: October 9, 2007, 7:51 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

 Computers are used to print the tickets and a computer is used for the televised draw. The giving out a Adult Chat number was a Lottery Commission being incompetent.

Incompetent, exactly.  But these same two things could have happened if the drawings were mechanical rather than RNG.  The point is that they have incompetent people there on the TN LC. People want them to go back to mechanical drawings, yes.  But only the first problem has anything to do with RNG drawings.  The other two are incompetence. They need to clean house on some of their employees. It isn't as if you need to be a rocket scientist to hold those jobs. You only need to pay attention to detail.  If they don't get rid of the incompetent people, even if they go back to mechanical drawings, they will continue to have problems that show up in headlines.  Hire people to replace them that have more than a 100 IQ. There are plenty of them out there that would be happy to have such an easy  job.

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Posted: October 9, 2007, 7:55 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

KyMystikal makes a good point.  The ATM you pull cash out of is a computer, computers tally your cost at the grocery store.  We rely on machines for most everything any more. 

Computers aren't the problem...

Yes, and you aren't going to eliminate them from Lotto. If they had to tally (check for) winning tickets by hand, there would be no lottery.  But the point is you are not taking the computers out of the equation.  They will always be a part of the lottery.  Now you can change to mechanical drawings again, and that's fine.  But you will still be having problems like the second two if you have incompetent employees...because those  two problems having nothing to do with how the numbers are drawn.

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Posted: October 9, 2007, 8:23 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

"He plans to introduce legislation early next year."

Early next year?! We can't wait that long. We have to strike while this fiasco is still fresh in everybody's minds.

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KyMystikal makes a good point.  The ATM you pull cash out of is a computer, computers tally your cost at the grocery store.  We rely on machines for most everything any more. 

Computers aren't the problem...

And they never make mistakes? A computer by it self is nothing! It's the programming, by a human, that controls the computer. The data in, determines the data out... This is why i don't like or trust computer draws! I prefer to see the ball machine on live tv.Thumbs Up

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Posted: October 9, 2007, 9:07 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

I went to tn.gov website and sent an email to Gov. Bredesen voicing my concerns and requesting the state toreturn to the original drawing process.  I received a reply in less than a week.  I encourage others to do the same.

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Posted: October 9, 2007, 9:17 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

"He plans to introduce legislation early next year."

Early next year?! We can't wait that long. We have to strike while this fiasco is still fresh in everybody's minds.

Your 100% right! Now we all know who to send our complaints to. Call him, email him, send him letters... "House Minority Leader Jason Mumpower" 

 

"He said the education of Tennessee's kids makes the measure necessary"

This shows his concern about the loss of income from lottery sales. Continue to make'em pay by not playing until the ball machines are brought back.

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Posted: October 9, 2007, 11:59 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

80 Thousand?? For $80.00 only I could have fixed the RNG program. Seems that they used the same code to generate the Pick3/4 as the Jackpot games and forgot to advise it that only Jackpot games have to flag off the numbers once they're called. Too bad if they go back to ball drawings now that we're getting such a great education on how their programs generate their drawings. I am guessing the next thing would be a Pick-5  or -6 type game with repeating numbers in the same draw?

HINT: if you see a certain number i.e. "4" comes up often or is due on the 3 or the 4, use the same one i.e. "04" on the Jackpot games. This can probably apply to most RNG games! Unfortunately only for numbers under 10.

I can just imagine also, a Jackpot drawing with "00" drawn or where no numbers can be above "09"?

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Posted: October 10, 2007, 4:54 am - IP Logged Bottom Top

And they never make mistakes? A computer by it self is nothing! It's the programming, by a human, that controls the computer. The data in, determines the data out... This is why i don't like or trust computer draws! I prefer to see the ball machine on live tv.Thumbs Up

"I prefer to see the ball machine on live tv."

I Agree!

With computer draws there is nothing to see. The first problem was really same as mixing ten balls numbered 0 to 9 in one machine and drawing three balls.

It's still gambling even though they tell us over and over again the profits go to education but when players distrust the outcome of any gambling game, they stop playing.