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New York Lottery won't pay $25,000 for taped-up scratch-off ticket

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Posted: October 23, 2007, 5:10 pm - IP Logged Bottom

Even if it isn't a fake and she is being sincere the following statement proves she's an idiot!

 

"Manzitto was so excited she spent some of the prize money before she even tried to collect. She dropped $700 on more lottery tickets, put $3,000 down on a new Lexus and promised her grandkids $1,000 apiece "


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Posted: October 23, 2007, 5:18 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Not knowing if this is a fake or not, I have had an instant ticket cut off just like this from the machines.  It was a $40 winner and the agent said as long as the barcode was intact they coould pay it.  So for those that say it isnt likely to have a ticket cut off, it is possible.

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Posted: October 23, 2007, 5:37 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

The Blue Moon Bucks ticket. The back of the Blue Moon Bucks ticket.

This is clearly two different tickets ..  the first numbers to indicate it the ticket numbers.  Front says ticket number 228 and the back says ticket number  023... Maybe off same row, but definitely two different tickets.

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Posted: October 23, 2007, 5:41 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Not knowing if this is a fake or not, I have had an instant ticket cut off just like this from the machines.  It was a $40 winner and the agent said as long as the barcode was intact they coould pay it.  So for those that say it isnt likely to have a ticket cut off, it is possible.

Thank you Madmaxxx for chiming in. I sincerely thought it was a rare occurance to have tickets sliced incorrectly, but it DOES happen. My ten dollar ticket proved it over the weekend. The lady that came to the dispenser machine to undo the half eaten ticket said "Sure hope thats a winner because it was stuck in there and sliced up nicely!"...Reality was..it was a 20$ winner from the ten dollar ticket. And yes the cashier walked me up to the redemption counter so there wouldnt be any misunderstaning.

Luckily we have Letters that match out the winning ($20)TWTY or TWY have to appear on the ticket along with the bar codes and three digit code. THere are far too many security things to consider before trying to claim a winner.

Machines do make slicing mistakes.

All I could think of for this lady is "Dont count your chickens before they hatch". She truly shouldnt be near any gaming for a year or more. To bad one of the rules for claiming tickets isnt common sense. Foolishness never pays well.

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Posted: October 23, 2007, 5:46 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Wasn't their a News Item where someone altered a Lottery Ticket as a Joke?

Yes, there was.

 

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Posted: October 23, 2007, 6:57 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

The ticket is an obvious fake...and a really bad one as well. All NY instant games only have 3 validation codes for all prize levels (including top prizes). In the ticket there is X, P, and K on the bottom, but also an M on the upper-left. There is no such thing as a 4-letter validation code on any NY instant ticket. This person obviously didn't know this fact and thought that if they just attached two tickets...one half, which contained the winning number, and the other, containing the matching number w/ prize, they would be set.

In addition, all NY instant tickets alternate between red and blue lines in the actual play area. No single ticket can have blue AND red lines showing.

Here's what I think probably happened: The person bought a couple of consecutive Blue Moon Bucks instant game tickets from the machine. Let's say they were ticket numbers 229, 228, and 227. All the tickets were losers, but they noticed that ticket 229 had a 'Winning Number' 13 and ticket 228 had a 'Your Number' 13 on top of the $25,000. This is very common by the way with the way these instant tickets work. It's set up this way to make you think you are really close to winning....just one off.

Feeling frustrated this person probably thought, 'if only the Winning Number from this ticket was on the next ticket, it would be a winner.' It's wishful thinking.

Here is where splicing the two tickets came into play. However, I'm 100% sure if you scanned the bar code at any retailer, it will not validate.

It's nice to dream though. :)

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Posted: October 23, 2007, 7:41 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

A bunch of observations and questions here. (Thanks Todd)

The tear itself (other than the overlap!) is very convincing, if she did this herself it's hard to get the rough edges to look so close so maybe she had 2 tickets and tore both at the same time to get the tear to be similar. It's even possible she FOUND the torn tickets and matched up the wrong parts and thought she won and claimed the machine did it. Would explain the initial spending spree if true. (Camera tape would be handy.)

Maybe she'll confess and then do an Elicia Battle and become a female boxer.

Why fake a 25K ticket, why not fake a 150K ticket or more?

I'm planning to go up to NY and buy $6 of Blue Moon Bucks. That would be a hoot and a half if I won the 25K legitimately!

Always worth it to check the code. They probably did at the Claim Center.

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Posted: October 23, 2007, 7:47 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

In Maryland someone got paid on a torn ticket.

http://www.msla.state.md.us/

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Posted: October 23, 2007, 9:15 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Yes, there was.

Thanks, I thought so. As I recall he wound up before the Judge. It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out.

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Posted: October 23, 2007, 9:23 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

The Ticket appears to be FAKE:

there  is  Two  big  reasons  this  is  not   a  valid  claim ;

the  Lletters   at  the  bottom  are  a  code  for  cash  payment  ;

25,000   would  be  something  like ( 25 thou  )  and  some  one  elese  notice  under t he  number 

9 -  the  word  is  fourty   as in  40.00.......look  at  number  28  it  says   thrity   for   30.00 :

reason  number   -3-  at  the   top  in  the  upper  left  hand  corner  there  is  another  code  of - M -

thats   a  sure  sign  of   a  looser   ticket  ;  M & P   ARE   ALWAYS  LOOSERS ;

THIS  CLAIM  IS  STRONG  FOR  THE  NEW  YORK  LOTTERY.......THEIR   SHOULD   BE   ONLY  -3 -  LETTERS   NOT   --4---   XPkM  ??????????