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New York Lottery won't pay $25,000 for taped-up scratch-off ticket

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Posted: October 24, 2007, 11:31 pm - IP Logged Bottom

Yes, most interesting. 

TODD   what's  with  the    pictures   of  the   sea  creature???///

I  could   see - PSYKOMO  -  doing  that ;

 but  , I  don't  get  it  and  its  making  me  afraid  to  go in the   water ; 

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Posted: October 25, 2007, 6:57 am - IP Logged Bottom Top

TODD   what's  with  the    pictures   of  the   sea  creature???///

I  could   see - PSYKOMO  -  doing  that ;

 but  , I  don't  get  it  and  its  making  me  afraid  to  go in the   water ; 

For those who don't get the subtle message, my pictures had as much relevancy to what I was posting as reposting the ticket images had in the messages of the person I was responding to.

 

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Posted: October 25, 2007, 11:10 am - IP Logged Bottom Top

Thank-you  for  saying  this  about  that  lady  ...we  are  Professional  players  and  she  is  nott  as  well  informed  as  we  are  here   on  LP  ;

Codes  , were  never  a  consideration  for  this  grandmother, who  promised  her  grandkids  a  1000 ea.  that  does  not  sound  like  a  liar  to  me .....she  will  be   better   and  more  informed  player  after  this  and  her  case  wont  go   un-noticed :

HER  FIRST  THOUGHT  WAS  TO  TRUST  THE  SYSTEM  ,JUST  LIKE  MILLIONS  OF  PEOPLE  WHO   TRUSTED  THE  911  COMMISSION ,ONLY  TO  FIND  OUT  LATTER  THE  FACTS  JUST   DON'T   ADD  UP ;

BEING  doubtfull  is  healthy medicine ;  She  failed  to  first  double  check  her  evidence that  being, the  25,000.00  ticket  just  in  case  the  ripped  ticket  was  not  accepted;

"we  are  Professional  players and she  is  nott  as  well  informed  as  we  are  here   on  LP  ;

I seriously doubt that you or anybody else makes a living playing the lottery but it's true that LP members should know enough not to tape two halves from two different tickets together whether the ticket dispenser cut them or not. If you look closely, you'll notice when she taped them, she matched up the back side.

Anybody over 21 can buy a lottery ticket and there are no rules saying they actually have to know what they're buying. It's like when you see a long line at the checkout counter and hear "price check on aisle 9" because somebody had to grab the only item without a price on it.

 "HER  FIRST  THOUGHT  WAS  TO  TRUST  THE  SYSTEM  ,"

Or more like "try to beat" the system. Do you honestly believe that was one ticket cut accidentally?

"JUST  LIKE  MILLIONS  OF  PEOPLE  WHO   TRUSTED  THE  911  COMMISSION ,ONLY  TO  FIND  OUT  LATTER  THE  FACTS  JUST   DON'T   ADD  UP ;

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Posted: October 25, 2007, 11:23 am - IP Logged Bottom Top

"Manzitto's lawyer, Arnold, doesn't dispute that the colored lines don't match, but argued that that is how the ticket was sold."

Patricia Manzitto and her lawyer know the ticket is not a winning ticket but they are trying to make an argument similar to that of a Florida woman two years ago when she bought a scratch-off on which a number hadn't been completely printed and matched another one on her ticket for $250K. http://www.lotterypost.com/news/117317  Even though the words under the numbers described two different numbers she argued that since her ticket on first glance could be mistaken for a winner, it should be treated as one.

Manzitto's lawyer is arguing that if the two halves sold to her client could be made to look like a winner on first glance then it should be treated as one.  That's a losing argument every time it's made, courts have said that lotteries don't have to reward people who can prove they they really thought they won when they really didn't even if it's not their fault.

"Patricia Manzitto and her lawyer know the ticket is not a winning ticket but they are trying to make an argument similar to that of a Florida woman two years ago when she bought a scratch-off on which a number hadn't been completely printed and matched another one on her ticket for $250K."

Was that the case where the "3" was scratched off from "13" to make it look like a "1"? 

"Manzitto's lawyer is arguing that if the two halves sold to her client could be made to look like a winner on first glance then it should be treated as one."

Wonder what Manzitto will argue if his client is charged with fraud for cutting and taping two losing tickets together and trying to claim it as a winner?

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Posted: October 25, 2007, 7:12 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

TODD   what's  with  the    pictures   of  the   sea  creature???///

I  could   see - PSYKOMO  -  doing  that ;

 but  , I  don't  get  it  and  its  making  me  afraid  to  go in the   water ; 

Todd  how  did  you  get  that  ticket  copy??/ Thats   good   reporting  I  have  never  seen  a  TV  or  newspaper  account  of  this  story.......this   woman  pride  was  hurt  so  she   Sued  the  Lottery; 

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Posted: October 25, 2007, 8:32 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

The ticket image was online on one of the News sites, at least the one I got. I first heard this mentioned on the "Court of Kuby" segment on 770WABC radio, and then it appeared on 7online and 1010WINS along with a picture of the actual ticket. I told Todd about it and then it later also appeared on Eyewitness News.

I am eagerly awaiting the follow-up (hopefully) of what really happened.

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Posted: October 25, 2007, 8:33 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Todd  how  did  you  get  that  ticket  copy??/ Thats   good   reporting  I  have  never  seen  a  TV  or  newspaper  account  of  this  story.......this   woman  pride  was  hurt  so  she   Sued  the  Lottery; 

Why, thank you.  ("good reporting")

Lots of information is out there, but it requires some digging. 

For stories like this one, which are fairly complex, I usually research the story using several different sources, and sometimes that can dig up info and images that are not covered in the national news media.

 

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Posted: October 25, 2007, 8:37 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

The ticket image was online on one of the News sites, at least the one I got. I first heard this mentioned on the "Court of Kuby" segment on 770WABC radio, and then it appeared on 7online and 1010WINS along with a picture of the actual ticket. I told Todd about it and then it later also appeared on Eyewitness News.

I am eagerly awaiting the follow-up (hopefully) of what really happened.

Did you know that Kuby is going bye-bye?  From what I understand, Imus is taking the morning slot, and Curtis and John Gambling are teaming up after that.

 

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"we  are  Professional  players and she  is  nott  as  well  informed  as  we  are  here   on  LP  ;

I seriously doubt that you or anybody else makes a living playing the lottery but it's true that LP members should know enough not to tape two halves from two different tickets together whether the ticket dispenser cut them or not. If you look closely, you'll notice when she taped them, she matched up the back side.

Anybody over 21 can buy a lottery ticket and there are no rules saying they actually have to know what they're buying. It's like when you see a long line at the checkout counter and hear "price check on aisle 9" because somebody had to grab the only item without a price on it.

 "HER  FIRST  THOUGHT  WAS  TO  TRUST  THE  SYSTEM  ,"

Or more like "try to beat" the system. Do you honestly believe that was one ticket cut accidentally?

"JUST  LIKE  MILLIONS  OF  PEOPLE  WHO   TRUSTED  THE  911  COMMISSION ,ONLY  TO  FIND  OUT  LATTER  THE  FACTS  JUST   DON'T   ADD  UP ;

Who shot JR Ewing?

Well  ,  first  you  got  the  facts  a  little  twisted....being  a  Professional  does  not  only  mean  you  make  a  living  playing  the  lottery;

Sometimes  its  ...SO  long  as  I  live  Iwill  play  the  lottery ...and  I  use  resources  that  regular  everyday  people  never   have  seen  this  web  site  nor  use  my  new  power system  ..its  my  way  of  life  ..lotery  before  my  mourning  coffee  and  lotttery  before  I  go  to  sleep  at  night ,studing  the  Board ....who  was  Jr EWING ???before  my  time ???

 

 

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Posted: October 27, 2007, 11:50 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Well  ,  first  you  got  the  facts  a  little  twisted....being  a  Professional  does  not  only  mean  you  make  a  living  playing  the  lottery;

Sometimes  its  ...SO  long  as  I  live  Iwill  play  the  lottery ...and  I  use  resources  that  regular  everyday  people  never   have  seen  this  web  site  nor  use  my  new  power system  ..its  my  way  of  life  ..lotery  before  my  mourning  coffee  and  lotttery  before  I  go  to  sleep  at  night ,studing  the  Board ....who  was  Jr EWING ???before  my  time ???

 

 

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"being  a  Professional  does  not  only  mean  you  make  a  living  playing  the  lottery;"

I suppose you could define a professional as an expert in their field and in skill games like Poker I would agree. Where is the skill when 70% of Mega Millions and Powerball jackpot winners bought QPs?

"its  my  way  of  life  ..lotery  before  my  mourning  coffee  and  lotttery  before  I  go  to  sleep  at  night ,studing  the  Board "

That could also define obsession.

"who  was  Jr EWING ???"

JR was a character in a TV mini-series called Dallas that was known for its season ending cliffhangers. You were talking about conspiracies and cover-ups and people were trying to figure out "who shot JR?" for months.

(edited to add: Kristen)