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New York Lottery won't pay $25,000 for taped-up scratch-off ticket
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United States Member #54866 August 17, 2007 126 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 24, 2007, 11:31 pm - IP Logged |
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Yes, most interesting. 
TODD what's with the pictures of the sea creature???/// I could see - PSYKOMO - doing that ; but , I don't get it and its making me afraid to go in the water ;
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Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 15573 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 25, 2007, 6:57 am - IP Logged |
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TODD what's with the pictures of the sea creature???/// I could see - PSYKOMO - doing that ; but , I don't get it and its making me afraid to go in the water ; For those who don't get the subtle message, my pictures had as much relevancy to what I was posting as reposting the ticket images had in the messages of the person I was responding to.
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Atwater, Ohio United States Member #33045 February 14, 2006 1237 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 25, 2007, 11:10 am - IP Logged |
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Thank-you for saying this about that lady ...we are Professional players and she is nott as well informed as we are here on LP ; Codes , were never a consideration for this grandmother, who promised her grandkids a 1000 ea. that does not sound like a liar to me .....she will be better and more informed player after this and her case wont go un-noticed : HER FIRST THOUGHT WAS TO TRUST THE SYSTEM ,JUST LIKE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO TRUSTED THE 911 COMMISSION ,ONLY TO FIND OUT LATTER THE FACTS JUST DON'T ADD UP ; BEING doubtfull is healthy medicine ; She failed to first double check her evidence that being, the 25,000.00 ticket just in case the ripped ticket was not accepted; "we are Professional players and she is nott as well informed as we are here on LP ;" I seriously doubt that you or anybody else makes a living playing the lottery but it's true that LP members should know enough not to tape two halves from two different tickets together whether the ticket dispenser cut them or not. If you look closely, you'll notice when she taped them, she matched up the back side. Anybody over 21 can buy a lottery ticket and there are no rules saying they actually have to know what they're buying. It's like when you see a long line at the checkout counter and hear "price check on aisle 9" because somebody had to grab the only item without a price on it. "HER FIRST THOUGHT WAS TO TRUST THE SYSTEM ," Or more like "try to beat" the system. Do you honestly believe that was one ticket cut accidentally? "JUST LIKE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO TRUSTED THE 911 COMMISSION ,ONLY TO FIND OUT LATTER THE FACTS JUST DON'T ADD UP ;" Who shot JR Ewing?
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Atwater, Ohio United States Member #33045 February 14, 2006 1237 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 25, 2007, 11:23 am - IP Logged |
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"Manzitto's lawyer, Arnold, doesn't dispute that the colored lines don't match, but argued that that is how the ticket was sold." Patricia Manzitto and her lawyer know the ticket is not a winning ticket but they are trying to make an argument similar to that of a Florida woman two years ago when she bought a scratch-off on which a number hadn't been completely printed and matched another one on her ticket for $250K. http://www.lotterypost.com/news/117317 Even though the words under the numbers described two different numbers she argued that since her ticket on first glance could be mistaken for a winner, it should be treated as one. Manzitto's lawyer is arguing that if the two halves sold to her client could be made to look like a winner on first glance then it should be treated as one. That's a losing argument every time it's made, courts have said that lotteries don't have to reward people who can prove they they really thought they won when they really didn't even if it's not their fault. "Patricia Manzitto and her lawyer know the ticket is not a winning ticket but they are trying to make an argument similar to that of a Florida woman two years ago when she bought a scratch-off on which a number hadn't been completely printed and matched another one on her ticket for $250K." Was that the case where the "3" was scratched off from "13" to make it look like a "1"? "Manzitto's lawyer is arguing that if the two halves sold to her client could be made to look like a winner on first glance then it should be treated as one." Wonder what Manzitto will argue if his client is charged with fraud for cutting and taping two losing tickets together and trying to claim it as a winner?
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United States Member #54866 August 17, 2007 126 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 25, 2007, 7:12 pm - IP Logged |
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TODD what's with the pictures of the sea creature???/// I could see - PSYKOMO - doing that ; but , I don't get it and its making me afraid to go in the water ; Todd how did you get that ticket copy??/ Thats good reporting I have never seen a TV or newspaper account of this story.......this woman pride was hurt so she Sued the Lottery;
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United States Member #10921 January 23, 2005 773 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 25, 2007, 8:32 pm - IP Logged |
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The ticket image was online on one of the News sites, at least the one I got. I first heard this mentioned on the "Court of Kuby" segment on 770WABC radio, and then it appeared on 7online and 1010WINS along with a picture of the actual ticket. I told Todd about it and then it later also appeared on Eyewitness News. I am eagerly awaiting the follow-up (hopefully) of what really happened.
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Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 15573 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 25, 2007, 8:33 pm - IP Logged |
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Todd how did you get that ticket copy??/ Thats good reporting I have never seen a TV or newspaper account of this story.......this woman pride was hurt so she Sued the Lottery; Why, thank you. ("good reporting") Lots of information is out there, but it requires some digging. For stories like this one, which are fairly complex, I usually research the story using several different sources, and sometimes that can dig up info and images that are not covered in the national news media.
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Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 15573 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 25, 2007, 8:37 pm - IP Logged |
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The ticket image was online on one of the News sites, at least the one I got. I first heard this mentioned on the "Court of Kuby" segment on 770WABC radio, and then it appeared on 7online and 1010WINS along with a picture of the actual ticket. I told Todd about it and then it later also appeared on Eyewitness News. I am eagerly awaiting the follow-up (hopefully) of what really happened. Did you know that Kuby is going bye-bye? From what I understand, Imus is taking the morning slot, and Curtis and John Gambling are teaming up after that.
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United States Member #54866 August 17, 2007 126 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 27, 2007, 2:12 am - IP Logged |
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"we are Professional players and she is nott as well informed as we are here on LP ;" I seriously doubt that you or anybody else makes a living playing the lottery but it's true that LP members should know enough not to tape two halves from two different tickets together whether the ticket dispenser cut them or not. If you look closely, you'll notice when she taped them, she matched up the back side. Anybody over 21 can buy a lottery ticket and there are no rules saying they actually have to know what they're buying. It's like when you see a long line at the checkout counter and hear "price check on aisle 9" because somebody had to grab the only item without a price on it. "HER FIRST THOUGHT WAS TO TRUST THE SYSTEM ," Or more like "try to beat" the system. Do you honestly believe that was one ticket cut accidentally? "JUST LIKE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO TRUSTED THE 911 COMMISSION ,ONLY TO FIND OUT LATTER THE FACTS JUST DON'T ADD UP ;" Who shot JR Ewing? Well , first you got the facts a little twisted....being a Professional does not only mean you make a living playing the lottery; Sometimes its ...SO long as I live Iwill play the lottery ...and I use resources that regular everyday people never have seen this web site nor use my new power system ..its my way of life ..lotery before my mourning coffee and lotttery before I go to sleep at night ,studing the Board ....who was Jr EWING ???before my time ??? 
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Atwater, Ohio United States Member #33045 February 14, 2006 1237 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 27, 2007, 11:50 pm - IP Logged |
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Well , first you got the facts a little twisted....being a Professional does not only mean you make a living playing the lottery; Sometimes its ...SO long as I live Iwill play the lottery ...and I use resources that regular everyday people never have seen this web site nor use my new power system ..its my way of life ..lotery before my mourning coffee and lotttery before I go to sleep at night ,studing the Board ....who was Jr EWING ???before my time ??? 
"being a Professional does not only mean you make a living playing the lottery;" I suppose you could define a professional as an expert in their field and in skill games like Poker I would agree. Where is the skill when 70% of Mega Millions and Powerball jackpot winners bought QPs? "its my way of life ..lotery before my mourning coffee and lotttery before I go to sleep at night ,studing the Board " That could also define obsession. "who was Jr EWING ???" JR was a character in a TV mini-series called Dallas that was known for its season ending cliffhangers. You were talking about conspiracies and cover-ups and people were trying to figure out "who shot JR?" for months. (edited to add: Kristen)
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