Tenn. players picked up on new odds before lottery revealed glitch

I'll just post this and let you decide.

From the graph provided, I estimated the point shown on the graph in green. It shows the point I have brought up in a Blog I made back in August.

From my Blog from 2007 Aug 29:

"Boy I tell ya, there are some people who think everyone is stupid and will believe anything you say without question. Like these statements from Lottery Post News, Official wants fraud probe of Tennessee Lottery: "Hargrove said she did not believe fraud was involved. She said a player would have had to spend $720 to win $500 in the Cash 3 game and $5,040 to win $5,000 in Cash 4, making it unlikely anyone would purposely rig the games." The part of the statements "...a player would have had to spend $720 to win $500 in the Cash 3..." and "...making it unlikely anyone would purposely rig the games." are not true; the math is wrong.

I had to sit and think about how could someone rig, rip-off the lottery and not get caught. First, the rigging and not get caught part. Rigging is so easy now that computers are picking the numbers, just set up some code in the thing to restrict or eliminate some combinations so you know what you are working with. You don't want to eliminate all the combinations just enough to give the appearance of randomness for a period of time before the lottery officials and the public notice. Also, the game would have to be one where the top prize is lager enough to make money, but you would not have to fill out any  paper work to hide your tracks. Pick 4 is no good, it's top prizes is $5,000.00, most state lotteries require you to pick up your prizes through the lottery office for prizes above a certain amount, like $599.00 here in Wisconsin. Hmm, what online game has a top prize just under $599.00 and can have the money redeemed at most local online sellers??? Pick 3! It's top prize is $500.00.

Now the rip-off part. I began looking at the Pick 3 midday and evening numbers for the Tennessee Lottery during the computer mess period from 2007-07-28 to 2007-08-19. I noticed there is an unusually large number of picks for a certain type of Permutational Form, C A B. The C A B form is one of six different permutational forms that can occur when all the numbers are different. The six forms are A B C, A C B, B A C, B C A, C A B and C B A. The 5th permutational form C A B occurred twice as much as the reset of the numbers, 15 times during the computer draw mess. For a truly random setting, the draws for any permutational form should have been closer to 7. You can identify these numbers in the draws easily. The first number is the largest and the second number is the smallest. Below is a table with the highlighted numbers. Well, you might say, "What good is that?" Knowing this, you can now reduce the numbers you have to play from 720 all of the permutational forms, to just 120 for the permutational form of C A B. These would be, 2 0 1, 3 0 1, 3 0 2, 3 1 2, 4 0 1, 4 0 2, 4 0 3, 4 1 2, 4 1 3, 4 2 3, 5 0 1, 5 0 2, 5 0 3, 5 0 4, 5 1 2, 5 1 3, 5 1 4, 5 2 3, 5 2 4, 5 3 4, 6 0 1, 6 0 2, 6 0 3, 6 0 4, 6 0 5, 6 1 2, 6 1 3, 6 1 4, 6 1 5, 6 2 3, 6 2 4, 6 2 5, 6 3 4, 6 3 5, 6 4 5, 7 0 1, 7 0 2, 7 0 3, 7 0 4, 7 0 5, 7 0 6, 7 1 2, 7 1 3, 7 1 4, 7 1 5, 7 1 6, 7 2 3, 7 2 4, 7 2 5, 7 2 6, 7 3 4, 7 3 5, 7 3 6, 7 4 5, 7 4 6, 7 5 6, 8 0 1, 8 0 2, 8 0 3, 8 0 4, 8 0 5, 8 0 6, 8 0 7, 8 1 2, 8 1 3, 8 1 4, 8 1 5, 8 1 6, 8 1 7, 8 2 3, 8 2 4, 8 2 5, 8 2 6, 8 2 7, 8 3 4, 8 3 5, 8 3 6, 8 3 7, 8 4 5, 8 4 6, 8 4 7, 8 5 6, 8 5 7, 8 6 7, 9 0 1, 9 0 2, 9 0 3, 9 0 4, 9 0 5, 9 0 6, 9 0 7, 9 0 8, 9 1 2, 9 1 3, 9 1 4, 9 1 5, 9 1 6, 9 1 7, 9 1 8, 9 2 3, 9 2 4, 9 2 5, 9 2 6, 9 2 7, 9 2 8, 9 3 4, 9 3 5, 9 3 6, 9 3 7, 9 3 8, 9 4 5, 9 4 6, 9 4 7, 9 4 8, 9 5 6, 9 5 7, 9 5 8, 9 6 7, 9 6 8 and 9 7 8. That would be only 24 play slips to hand in at one time, assuming there are 5 plays per slip; simple and fairly quick.

Now the math behind it. Would there be a profit during this period? Also, your winnings would have to go into the plays once you got by the startup cost. To play all the 120 permutational forms during this period would be, $5,040.00, that's $120.00 x 42 draws. Playing only Straight to get $500.00 dollar return, the winnings would be, $7,500.00, that's $500.00 x 15 wins. Profit, $7,500.00 - $5,040.00 = $2,460.00, and that's just one person playing one run of their slips. Now imagine 10 runs of the same slips at 10 different locations, the profit would be $24,600.00. Get 10 a of your buddies in on this and the profit jumps to $246,000.00. Not very hard. Not very hard at all.

Look at this a little more closely. I think you'll find more interesting things."

Personally, I think there is more that is not being told and needs to be told.

You decide.

I noticed on some of the recent payouts on numbers that seem out of the extreme to me.

Some of these numbers in my opinion with higher payouts would not seem to be a highly played number normaly.

CASH 3 10/27/2007 Mid-Day 913 $27,830.00
CASH 3 10/27/2007 Evening 401 $42,060.00
CASH 3 10/26/2007 Mid-Day 601 $20,560.00

CASH 3 10/26/2007 Evening 000 $234,000.00 generally a highly played number

CASH 3 10/25/2007 Mid-Day 852 $31,250.00
CASH 3 10/25/2007 Evening 012 $57,840.00
CASH 3 10/24/2007 Mid-Day 973 $15,950.00

CASH 3 10/24/2007 Evening 789 $215,140.00 generally a highly played number

CASH 3 10/23/2007 Mid-Day 620 $12,740.00
CASH 3 10/23/2007 Evening 301 $52,820.00
CASH 3 10/22/2007 Mid-Day 231 $35,840.00
CASH 3 10/22/2007 Evening 417 $46,340.00
CASH 3 10/21/2007 Evening 059 $18,560.00
CASH 3 10/20/2007 Mid-Day 051 $16,490.00
CASH 3 10/20/2007 Evening 790 $16,750.00
CASH 3 10/19/2007 Mid-Day 620 $20,780.00
CASH 3 10/19/2007 Evening 038 $31,350.00
CASH 3 10/18/2007 Mid-Day 529 $28,410.00

CASH 3 10/18/2007 Evening 712 $138,900.00 this one in particular

CASH 3 10/17/2007 Mid-Day 132 $56,240.00
CASH 3 10/17/2007 Evening 377 $69,640.00
CASH 3 10/16/2007 Mid-Day 165 $15,080.00

CASH 3 10/16/2007 Evening 327 $142,930.00 this one in particular

CASH 3 10/15/2007 Mid-Day 862 $23,430.00
CASH 3 10/15/2007 Evening 119 $51,470.00
CASH 3 10/14/2007 Evening 693 $49,300.00
CASH 3 10/13/2007 Mid-Day 838 $25,910.00
CASH 3 10/13/2007 Evening 040 $14,530.00
CASH 3 10/12/2007 Mid-Day 266 $21,500.00
CASH 3 10/12/2007 Evening 479 $56,190.00
CASH 3 10/11/2007 Mid-Day 096 $8,320.00
CASH 3 10/11/2007 Evening 530 $34,530.00
CASH 3 10/10/2007 Mid-Day 065 $9,970.00
CASH 3 10/10/2007 Evening 816 $34,750.00
CASH 3 10/9/2007 Mid-Day 970 $8,390.00
CASH 3 10/9/2007 Evening 225 $67,500.00
CASH 3 10/8/2007 Mid-Day 957 $38,660.00
CASH 3 10/8/2007 Evening 502 $26,060.00
CASH 3 10/7/2007 Evening 417 $53,350.00
CASH 3 10/6/2007 Mid-Day 595 $22,780.00
CASH 3 10/6/2007 Evening 930 $34,500.00
CASH 3 10/5/2007 Mid-Day 370 $11,750.00
CASH 3 10/5/2007 Evening 433 $59,610.00
CASH 3 10/4/2007 Mid-Day 509 $11,490.00
CASH 3 10/4/2007 Evening 971 $24,850.00
CASH 3 10/3/2007 Mid-Day 691 $19,390.00
CASH 3 10/3/2007 Evening 264 $44,860.00
CASH 3 10/2/2007 Mid-Day 197 $13,800.00
CASH 3 10/2/2007 Evening 107 $71,530.00
CASH 3 10/1/2007 Mid-Day 125 $42,860.00

CASH 3 10/1/2007 Evening 657 $105,160.00 generally a highly played number

CASH 3 9/30/2007 Evening 548 $40,780.00
CASH 3 9/29/2007 Mid-Day 460 $8,750.00
CASH 3 9/29/2007 Evening 476 $50,260.00
CASH 3 9/28/2007 Mid-Day 780 $14,440.00
CASH 3 9/28/2007 Evening 545 $48,490.00
CASH 3 9/27/2007 Mid-Day 548 $33,070.00
CASH 3 9/27/2007 Evening 661 $40,940.00
CASH 3 9/26/2007 Mid-Day 858 $24,370.00
CASH 3 9/26/2007 Evening 972 $39,660.00

yes  balls  can  be  manipulated  but  were  talking  computers  here  and  a  manmade  program ...software......

I  dont  trust  lotterys  to  give  out  money ...I  belive  they  do  a  lot  of  collecting  and  cashing  in  on  peoples  wishes  ...and  putng  the  cash-money  in  their  pockets ;

I  just  read  that  mutual  funds are  gonna  go  bust  before  2009  and  people  already  are  loosing  their  homes  because  they " betted "   to  lease  their  morgage  now  the  lenders  want  more  money  through  interest  and  the  amounts  are  like  double    ....its  a  head  game  and  its  all  about   our  pocket books  ...no  one  cares  if  we  die  brooke  and  take  our  children  down  with  us  ...its  about  them  and  their  dollars ..we  cannot  aford  to  sleep  or  be  lead  like  sheep  ;  when  we  see  the  system  ain't  working  don't  wait  attack  and  be  heard ...fix  Tenns.  problem  with  complaits  everyday  untill  they  switch  back  to  the  balls  and  be  aggressive  and  persistiant ,that  gets  things  done; Public  out -cry  is  an  American  right ,

only  a  under  Martial Law will  our  rights  be  silienced ,  so  dont   wait  till  next  year  , that  will  be  too  late  by  fall  of 2008 we' ll  be  under  PD 51  OR  PRESIDENTIAL  DIRECTIVE  51; 

four4me said " As an experienced lottery director she should have taken the peoples point of view into consideration before switching drawing types. If anyone should be looking at anything they should be looking into why she did what she did. And review there charter processes to see if she broke any of the rules regarding changing lottery drawings. " 

In Georgia she proved over and over she never cared what players wanted so long as they did what ads told them and kept buying tickets.  All we got were canned replies if any, no changes .... just her bulldozing her vision through until she ran our lottery into the ground then left for Tennessee.

""Hargrove disagreed the analysis showed any such trend. She said the increase in single numbers being played could have been the result of other factors, not any observation by players that only singles could win.

"The Cash 3 player and Cash 4 players tend to be very, very superstitious," Hargrove said. "They tend to play numbers for a whole wide variety of reasons."

Same old arrogant 80's out of touch retread mindset .....  players aren't smart ... enough to figure out what's being done to them .... and things will die down quickly if she does enough damage control ...   they'll shut up and go back buying tickets. 

Blowback from this has been well earned. 

Konane you said it!  I am so sick of know-it-alls who constantly categorize people, especially daily players.  She has gotten too big for her britches, methinks.

The Pick 4 was a better deal there, close to breakeven so an algorithm that simply tracked frequent digits period could have pushed it up enough to make long-term profit (theoretically speaking). Here's food for thought: at what payout ratio (if any) would you be willing to accept computerized drawings? I think at 80-90% I might but no way at 50%!

Be heard... Email the www.tnlottery.com and let them know your concerns...

BE HEARD

There must not be very many lottery players in TN considering according to the 2004 census TN was 16th in population. TN payouts on trips this year have been as follows

1/1     - 333 - 396,750

2/5     - 444 - 472,750

5/14   - 444 - 286,500

6/9     - 222 - 309,500

10/26 - 000 - 234,00

While in Ky which was ranked 26th their payouts were for the last few trips.

10/16 - 111 - 990,270

9/17   - 333 - 1.3 mil

9/4     - 444 - 960,300

8/21   - 555 - 481,710

8/13   - 777 - 1.2 mil

7/27   - 555 - 1.1 mil

10/26 in tn payout was 234,000

Todd   is  TENNS.  lottery  locked  into  a  contrac  to  use  only    the  computer and  for  so  many   years .....they  act  like  its  so  hard  to  go  back  to  BALL   DRAWINGS ??