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Texas Lottery to add 'Sum It Up' feature to Pick 3 game
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Georgia United States Member #21312 August 29, 2005 1761 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 31, 2007, 3:36 pm - IP Logged |
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Intersting idea...Is better than nothing... So if someone wants to make predictions on LP of Texas Cash3 Sum it up part how will they do it? Is LP ready for predictions involving the sum of the Pick3 numbers? We have to understand that the population of Texas is much bigger than the population of Georgia..they may be able to pull it off...The good news are if it works in Texas it can work in Florida, Ca, NY..The one thing i don't like about this is the 5.00 wager, they should leave it at up to 2 dollars wager.. And i wander which one would have been better to wager on, Sums or regular numbers...Something tells me that Sums...
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Georgia United States Member #21312 August 29, 2005 1761 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 31, 2007, 4:21 pm - IP Logged |
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Intersting idea...Is better than nothing... So if someone wants to make predictions on LP of Texas Cash3 Sum it up part how will they do it? Is LP ready for predictions involving the sum of the Pick3 numbers? We have to understand that the population of Texas is much bigger than the population of Georgia..they may be able to pull it off...The good news are if it works in Texas it can work in Florida, Ca, NY..The one thing i don't like about this is the 5.00 wager, they should leave it at up to 2 dollars wager.. And i wander which one would have been better to wager on, Sums or regular numbers...Something tells me that Sums... But is great if they make it for cash3 and not pick4...Well i mean people will revert a little bit more towards sum it up of cash4, because the game is a little too hard to get straight, so ther will be giving people a break...I am going to try and see if i can make predictions ONLY for Cash3 if LP allows me to place the predictions for Cash3 sum it up...But is going to be a while because i need like at least like 90 days pre-history draws to beging making predictions...but i wander how much does the sum it up for cash3 will pay.. What i like is that for cash3 people it gives them a break for playing a take your money game called Cash3 and Cash4....But to me they could have done better...But their mentalitty is whatever for the state without been fair and balanced or a little bit more balanced than fair... I believe they are going to make a lot of money off of it because people everywhere in the world are hungry for an easier cash3 and cash4 game (i said easier not easy game)...
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Amarillo/Austin United States Member #1450 April 25, 2003 696 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 31, 2007, 4:47 pm - IP Logged |
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If you want to have your eyes opened about the Texas Lottery, read Dawn Nettles' article in the Texas Lottery Report about the dishonest bet the state accepts on pair sums. They accept the sum bet on pairs and don't pay up if the sucker wins. TLC doesn't mean Tender Loving Care down here in the Lone Star State. We have a saying down here: "Don't piss on my boots and tell me it's raining!" Orangeman
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Atwater, Ohio United States Member #33045 February 14, 2006 1237 Posts Offline
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| Posted: November 1, 2007, 12:26 pm - IP Logged |
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Intersting idea...Is better than nothing... So if someone wants to make predictions on LP of Texas Cash3 Sum it up part how will they do it? Is LP ready for predictions involving the sum of the Pick3 numbers? We have to understand that the population of Texas is much bigger than the population of Georgia..they may be able to pull it off...The good news are if it works in Texas it can work in Florida, Ca, NY..The one thing i don't like about this is the 5.00 wager, they should leave it at up to 2 dollars wager.. And i wander which one would have been better to wager on, Sums or regular numbers...Something tells me that Sums... "The one thing i don't like about this is the 5.00 wager, they should leave it at up to 2 dollars wager.." They give you the option to play up to $5.00 or you can play it for 50 cents. The front pair/back pair/outside pair option has been on most Pick-3 games since day 1 though not very many people play it. Player friendly lotteries know this but still offer that option to all their players. I learned long ago it's none of my business if somebody bets a $1 straight on 7961 and bets $5 on the sum of 6.
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Georgia United States Member #21312 August 29, 2005 1761 Posts Offline
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| Posted: November 1, 2007, 6:33 pm - IP Logged |
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"The one thing i don't like about this is the 5.00 wager, they should leave it at up to 2 dollars wager.." They give you the option to play up to $5.00 or you can play it for 50 cents. The front pair/back pair/outside pair option has been on most Pick-3 games since day 1 though not very many people play it. Player friendly lotteries know this but still offer that option to all their players. I learned long ago it's none of my business if somebody bets a $1 straight on 7961 and bets $5 on the sum of 6. if they give people the option of 5.00 and of 50 cents i believe they will go BROKE...And then they will not be an example for other states to immitate....: (...Well at least on Pick3....Don't think it will happen for pick4... But they never want to listen to me...I've said that before you start a game like that, you should SIMULATE IT, EXPERIMENT with it, do similar real life situations, research it, etc....See if the game will withstand attacks, number of casualties, etc, etc, the list goes on...If you have to use a 1 million dollar supercomputer or a computer so be it...If you have to do it with paper and pencil the experiment so be it, but do it... What i see happening is they are going to go broke and the rest of States will get INTIMIDATED AND WILL not follow/immitate.... "The Truth is Out There" from movie "The X-Files"
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Georgia United States Member #21312 August 29, 2005 1761 Posts Offline
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| Posted: November 1, 2007, 6:56 pm - IP Logged |
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if they give people the option of 5.00 and of 50 cents i believe they will go BROKE...And then they will not be an example for other states to immitate....: (...Well at least on Pick3....Don't think it will happen for pick4... But they never want to listen to me...I've said that before you start a game like that, you should SIMULATE IT, EXPERIMENT with it, do similar real life situations, research it, etc....See if the game will withstand attacks, number of casualties, etc, etc, the list goes on...If you have to use a 1 million dollar supercomputer or a computer so be it...If you have to do it with paper and pencil the experiment so be it, but do it... What i see happening is they are going to go broke and the rest of States will get INTIMIDATED AND WILL not follow/immitate.... "The Truth is Out There" from movie "The X-Files" I wish the country of Brazil, Colombia, Argentina and Bolivia would put a pick3 And Pick4 like that; the state of Texas for now, for the mean time.... "The Truth is Out There" from movie "The X-files"
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Atwater, Ohio United States Member #33045 February 14, 2006 1237 Posts Offline
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| Posted: November 1, 2007, 10:09 pm - IP Logged |
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if they give people the option of 5.00 and of 50 cents i believe they will go BROKE...And then they will not be an example for other states to immitate....: (...Well at least on Pick3....Don't think it will happen for pick4... But they never want to listen to me...I've said that before you start a game like that, you should SIMULATE IT, EXPERIMENT with it, do similar real life situations, research it, etc....See if the game will withstand attacks, number of casualties, etc, etc, the list goes on...If you have to use a 1 million dollar supercomputer or a computer so be it...If you have to do it with paper and pencil the experiment so be it, but do it... What i see happening is they are going to go broke and the rest of States will get INTIMIDATED AND WILL not follow/immitate.... "The Truth is Out There" from movie "The X-Files" If lotteries only allowed straight number bets they would lose players. The Sum bet is just another way to bet the outcome like a box bet or a front pair bet. There is a start-up expense; programming terminals, printing new play slips, etc, but it's minimal. We've read about system where you box 6 digits with a minimum cost of $10 (twenty 50 cent boxes) and if 1 of the boxes hit, you collect $40. A lottery could offer that same bet for 50 cents with a payout of $4 or payout $40 on a $5 bet. The Sum bet is basically the same thing where you're playing all the combinations (in any order) that add up to that sum. http://www.txlottery.org/export/sites/default/Games/Daily_4/How_to_Play_Daily_4.html "I've said that before you start a game like that, you should SIMULATE IT, EXPERIMENT with it, do similar real life situations, research it, etc...." The Texas Pick-4 game is new so there is no history a player could use to determine which sum to play, but the article says they are adding the Sum bet to its Pick-3 that does have a long history.
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Georgia United States Member #21312 August 29, 2005 1761 Posts Offline
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| Posted: November 2, 2007, 2:15 am - IP Logged |
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Now i see that there is some restriction on different sums...They should let any sum pay the same payout...I mean pick4 is hard enough already to win...I still think that the 5 dollar wager is taken too much money off of people...That's just another pre-text to raise the price of each entry in the future...I thought they were giving people a break but apparently they are not... Also is restrictions like that placed on the lottery on which numbers they should draw more often that calls for lottery manipulation...I got to see how they are going to make the Cash3 payouts to see if i'll be making predictions: if they make it hard i'll not make predictions, if they make it flexible/balanced i'll...At least something good came out of all this: they gave me a great idea... "The Truth is Out There" from movie "The X-Files"
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Georgia United States Member #21312 August 29, 2005 1761 Posts Offline
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| Posted: November 2, 2007, 2:48 am - IP Logged |
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Now i see that there is some restriction on different sums...They should let any sum pay the same payout...I mean pick4 is hard enough already to win...I still think that the 5 dollar wager is taken too much money off of people...That's just another pre-text to raise the price of each entry in the future...I thought they were giving people a break but apparently they are not... Also is restrictions like that placed on the lottery on which numbers they should draw more often that calls for lottery manipulation...I got to see how they are going to make the Cash3 payouts to see if i'll be making predictions: if they make it hard i'll not make predictions, if they make it flexible/balanced i'll...At least something good came out of all this: they gave me a great idea... "The Truth is Out There" from movie "The X-Files" But i am confident LP predictors will take good juice out of this lottery with their predictions....And in cash3 is even worse...My thing is if Texas places such game in Texas and it works, other states will follow, and 1 state is bound to give better payouts... With the sum it up option states can compete against horseracing which i think was what was happening in texas...I bet that the TX Pick4/Pick3 lottery was losing money against horse racing tracks, if such are legal in Texas... But i think i saw a Theoretical glitch (yeah because is theoretical) on Texas's Cash4 Sum it up option...It says there that the 5 dollar wager for the 36 or 0 sum pays 25,000 dollars...But if you were to play 5 dollars on 1 sum everyday for 365 days it will equal 1825 dollars AND YOU KNOW that the sum 36 or 0 has to appear once a year, even if it appears once every 2 years that will be 5 X 730 days = 3650 dollars...(and if is 4 years is 7,300 dollars which leaves you with 17,700 dollars) AND YOU KNOW that the sum 36 or 0 HAS TO APPEAR at least Once every 2 years...And this is where my theory of number manipulations come in, because you and i know that in every normal draw even RNG, the sum 36 or "0" comes up at least once a year, but it maybe more because i am kind of rusty on Pick4 for i don't play that game nor i specialize on that game...Maybe i am thinking of Pick3... "The Truth is Out There" from movie "The X-Files"
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Atwater, Ohio United States Member #33045 February 14, 2006 1237 Posts Offline
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| Posted: November 2, 2007, 9:44 am - IP Logged |
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Now i see that there is some restriction on different sums...They should let any sum pay the same payout...I mean pick4 is hard enough already to win...I still think that the 5 dollar wager is taken too much money off of people...That's just another pre-text to raise the price of each entry in the future...I thought they were giving people a break but apparently they are not... Also is restrictions like that placed on the lottery on which numbers they should draw more often that calls for lottery manipulation...I got to see how they are going to make the Cash3 payouts to see if i'll be making predictions: if they make it hard i'll not make predictions, if they make it flexible/balanced i'll...At least something good came out of all this: they gave me a great idea... "The Truth is Out There" from movie "The X-Files" "They should let any sum pay the same payout...I mean pick4 is hard enough already to win..." The payoffs are based on the number of combinations that add to the sum. There is only one sum of 0 and 36 so that pays $2500 for a 50 cent wager. With the sum of 18 you get more combinations so the payoffs are much lower. Let's say you wanted play $1 straight and $1 box on 2578. They give you the option to play the Sum of 22 and you could put a $1 on that too for a total of $3 and if 3469 hits, you would still win $8 on the Sum bet. It's a hedge bet like betting a horse to show. "I still think that the 5 dollar wager is taken too much money off of people..." You're misunderstanding how it works. You don't have to wager $5; you have the option to bet from 50 cents all the way up to $5.
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