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Police seize winning lottery ticket bought with drug money
Charlotte NC United States Member #17704 June 18, 2005 3292 Posts Online
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| Posted: January 22, 2008, 12:36 pm - IP Logged |
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usually any money or items of value that are confiscated during a drug arrest are auctioned off and the proceeds are returned to the local drug enforcement agency. Yep, even if they were Birthday presents or Christmas gifts. A lady was complaining when her son got busted for selling drugs and he had just recently received a huge settlement from a car accident and law enforcement took that too. So that's the price you pay for being a drug dealer. Drug dealers know this going into it. Drug law enforcement will work better if they would just stop the drugs from coming into the country and into the city.
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Columbia City, Indiana United States Member #3034 December 9, 2003 351 Posts Offline
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| Posted: January 22, 2008, 2:49 pm - IP Logged |
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Spy, this is just my opinion, but I think the reason this bothers you so much is because the man has been arrested, tried and convicted in four column-inches of newsprint. The guy's obviously guilty; he's a drug dealer, after all, so why bother with a trial? As we progress into the 21st century, our legal system seems to be reverting to the archaic ways of 16th century England, when the monarchy could take anything they wanted from the serfdom without process. This practice caused a revolution in America, which led to our independence from the crown. Here in Indiana, the governor and the legislature are considering a bill which would allow the citizens of our state to hold referendum votes. Currently, referendums are illegal here unless approved by the State House. There is also a law on our books which makes it a crime to collect signatures on a recall petition against an elected official who isn't doing his job. The police in Indiana can arrest anyone without probable cause, they're not required to read a suspect his Constitutional rights, they don't have to tell us what we're being charged with and they have no obligation to tell us we're under arrest. In addition, Indiana prosecutors can use perjured testimony to try to gain a conviction. I'm NOT exaggerating; all of these things actually happened to me, and I was told, "There's nothing you can do about it." Fortunately, I had the good sense to insist on a trial by jury, and I was acquitted of all charges. However, despite my acquittal, I still lost many of my civil and Constitutional rights, and I've been defeated in all attempts to have my property returned to me. Three years ago, I never would have believed this could happen in this country, just as some of you refuse to believe it now. I've been a victim of our system of "justice," and if it can happen to me, the odds are better than average that it can happen to you, too. I didn't even break the law, but I found myself in a courtroom facing six years in state prison for stopping a man who was trying to flee from the police during the commission of a felony. As for America's "drug problem," I would like to point out one tiny fact: if the good citizens of this nation didn't buy illegal drugs by the ton, the dealers would have no marketplace. Yes, the guy in the article will probably go to prison for a while, but someone else will step up to provide the services abandoned by the jailed offender. The guy sold one methadone tablet for fifteen dollars, and the State of Maine will spend $50,000 in taxpayer money to send him to jail, then they'll pay up to $60,000 PER YEAR to keep him there. Since Ronald Reagan left office, America has spent nearly a trillion dollars on the War On Drugs. With that kind of money behind the mission, the war should be over any day now ... Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...
Jim
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United States Member #4963 May 30, 2004 2497 Posts Offline
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| Posted: January 22, 2008, 3:00 pm - IP Logged |
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Yep, even if they were Birthday presents or Christmas gifts. A lady was complaining when her son got busted for selling drugs and he had just recently received a huge settlement from a car accident and law enforcement took that too. So that's the price you pay for being a drug dealer. Drug dealers know this going into it. Drug law enforcement will work better if they would just stop the drugs from coming into the country and into the city. TJ: I was not pleased about the LADY & her son "LOSING" present's or Chrimast gift's>>>>>>> goverment got UR $$$$ BUT, did HE WIN a GOVERNMENT LOTTERY>>>>>>>>>>>>TOO?? WAS the money played $$$$$$$$$$$$$$MARKED?????????????? WAS he a citizen of the US or was he about to make an app for?? YES>>>>>>>>>>>>>WE OWE, WE OWE off to WORK we GO!! THANK you for your support TJ.....UR a great CITIZEN of USA !!!!!! LOL PSYKOMO
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Sunny SW Florida United States Member #25708 November 5, 2005 4196 Posts Offline
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| Posted: January 22, 2008, 3:17 pm - IP Logged |
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"It won't be long before your car can be taken because you have an unpaid parking ticket." That's nothing new. I knew someone in 1975 who had his car towed for having too many tickets. They used to use a boot, but that was a long time ago. So what? If you violate the law too many times, you should pay the price! I guess all of us should park in front of fire hydrants and hospitals or drive 50mph past a school bus and just get away with it! Driving a car is not a right, it's a privilege. So many people who grow up seeing everyone driving around them forget that it's a weapon made from steel that can kill, not a toy. It has to be regulated. A parking ticket is a minor offense, and they don't tow your car for one ticket. I don't like parking meters and don't like tickets either. Do you think I like getting a speeding ticket? Of course not! But without a police force, there would be total chaos everywhere. I'm not crazy about the police and the abuse of power either, but most people who are hassled by cops are doing something wrong. Most people in jail (not all) did something wrong. Your remark about the property disappearing cannot possibly apply to this story since it's public information. If the police were going to steal ths $1,000 bucks, it wouldn't be in a newspaper article in the first place! Duh? I agree with Jim on several points. I also believe that the rich will get preferential treatment. the man probably wasn't a big drug dealer, since what he was selling is often given to heroin addicts to ease the pain of withdrawal and he probably was selling them for rent money. Still, he was doing something illegal. We need to have laws. Do you know that if a doctor prescribes Valium for me to sleep and I sell a 10mg pill to my neighbor for $20 I will also be arrested? That is the law and everyone knows it. You can't share narcotics or controlled substances, legally prescribed or not. Many of them are wrong and should be challenged, but without laws I wouldn't want to leave my house without a weapon.
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United States Member #4963 May 30, 2004 2497 Posts Offline
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| Posted: January 22, 2008, 3:45 pm - IP Logged |
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"It won't be long before your car can be taken because you have an unpaid parking ticket." That's nothing new. I knew someone in 1975 who had his car towed for having too many tickets. They used to use a boot, but that was a long time ago. So what? If you violate the law too many times, you should pay the price! I guess all of us should park in front of fire hydrants and hospitals or drive 50mph past a school bus and just get away with it! Driving a car is not a right, it's a privilege. So many people who grow up seeing everyone driving around them forget that it's a weapon made from steel that can kill, not a toy. It has to be regulated. A parking ticket is a minor offense, and they don't tow your car for one ticket. I don't like parking meters and don't like tickets either. Do you think I like getting a speeding ticket? Of course not! But without a police force, there would be total chaos everywhere. I'm not crazy about the police and the abuse of power either, but most people who are hassled by cops are doing something wrong. Most people in jail (not all) did something wrong. Your remark about the property disappearing cannot possibly apply to this story since it's public information. If the police were going to steal ths $1,000 bucks, it wouldn't be in a newspaper article in the first place! Duh? I agree with Jim on several points. I also believe that the rich will get preferential treatment. the man probably wasn't a big drug dealer, since what he was selling is often given to heroin addicts to ease the pain of withdrawal and he probably was selling them for rent money. Still, he was doing something illegal. We need to have laws. Do you know that if a doctor prescribes Valium for me to sleep and I sell a 10mg pill to my neighbor for $20 I will also be arrested? That is the law and everyone knows it. You can't share narcotics or controlled substances, legally prescribed or not. Many of them are wrong and should be challenged, but without laws I wouldn't want to leave my house without a weapon. JP:>>>>>>>>>>>>>THANK's UR or RYOUR >>>>>THOUGHT"S >>>>>ON YOUR true^^
RUforDEATH senentence ?????TOO KILL LOL JP on your death penality wishes to kill true USA citizen's NOTE: PLEA to all TOO JP for JUSTICE to ALL>>>>>BOW to JP for JUSTICE! SUPPORT PSYMO>>>>>>AGAINST the DEATH PENALITY!!!!!!! NO DEATH PENALITY to a US CITIZEN!!!!!! LOL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WHEN U WIN A >>>>>>>>>>JACKPOT PSYKOMO
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United States Member #10921 January 23, 2005 773 Posts Offline
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| Posted: January 22, 2008, 6:07 pm - IP Logged |
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Ugh, more Dingbats. The best way to quit using drugs is to never start. You gotta be in it to lose it! It is a good question what the ticket was worth when he purchased it? An unplayed ticket is worth whatever its cost is. It would be interesting if they had confiscated an unplayed ticket or before the drawing (was it a scratch-off or other?) and if the Police had then played or checked the ticket to see if it had any value.
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United States Member #13375 March 30, 2005 1112 Posts Offline
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| Posted: January 22, 2008, 7:45 pm - IP Logged |
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As we progress into the 21st century, our legal system seems to be reverting to the archaic ways of 16th century England, when the monarchy could take anything they wanted from the serfdom without process. Which creates an inherent conflict of interests. An innocent person still has to spend their time and resources to fight the case. That money goes into lawyer fees and court costs. If the person does jail time, there's plenty of money paid to house, guard(sic), and feed them. Well over $15, but the "Do de crime, do de time" people are bad at math. I guess it would be pointless to mention that there's even a group of (current and former) Law Enforcement officers Against the drug Prohibition laws, or that the prohibition of alcohol (18th amendment) mainly helped strengthen a) organized crime & b) Canadian breweries. Those who go along with "whateva de law say" haven't been paying attention to some of "de laws" that have been passed lately. They would do well to look up the phrase 'habeas corpus' and know that it has been suspended. Prince of Insufficient Light ~ Ruler of Heck
"The Earth moves around the Sun." -- some 'crazy' guy, 1632
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CA United States Member #3044 December 10, 2003 738 Posts Offline
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| Posted: January 22, 2008, 10:31 pm - IP Logged |
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Yep, even if they were Birthday presents or Christmas gifts. A lady was complaining when her son got busted for selling drugs and he had just recently received a huge settlement from a car accident and law enforcement took that too. So that's the price you pay for being a drug dealer. Drug dealers know this going into it. Drug law enforcement will work better if they would just stop the drugs from coming into the country and into the city. That doesn't and hasn't worked. IMHO, when the users start being targeted and jailed, it'll make recreational drug use a whole lot less attractive. Blessed Saint Leibowitz, keep 'em dreamin' down there.....
Next week's convention for Psychics and Prognosticators has been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.
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Nashville, Tn United States Member #39102 May 3, 2006 267 Posts Offline
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| Posted: January 23, 2008, 12:10 am - IP Logged |
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o maaaaaaaan, I would be sooo mad but then again he shouldn't have asked a gas station clerk to hook him up with clients waiting patiently for my jackpot
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Hamilton, OH United States Member #4236 March 27, 2004 156 Posts Offline
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| Posted: January 23, 2008, 12:16 am - IP Logged |
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20/20 did a report about cops targeting out of state cars in Louisiana for seizure due to traffic tickets. One was enough. They would hold the car until court and if the court deemed it necessary, the car was sold and the profits given to the police department. The money was used for ski holidays for cops.
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