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Posted: February 23, 2008, 3:27 pm - IP Logged Bottom

"FYI those who work for Primerica DO care how their clients portfolios perform."

What  about Charlie,  the guy who's quitting in 4weeks?   He  might be a great guy with loads ofintegrity, but he certainly doesn't  have a financial incentivebased on the long term results of my  portfolio.  If he canoffer me three choices and one of them puts more money in his pocketthan the others, that's a powerful incentive to point me in thatdirection, especially if he thinks all three choices are good. 

"The issue is whether the person  for one to follow."

That's absolutely true, but the problem is figuring out ahead oftime who's going to make those appropriate and sound recommendations.It's very easy to tell people to go out and find a good advisor, butnot so easy to actually do it. As with any other profession there aregood financial advisors and bad ones, and there are honest ones whowill accept the lower paycheck for giving you better advice,  andthere are some who will give you advice that isn't as goodbecause  it will put a few more bucks in their pocket. Plenty ofadvisors will  offer you honest and excellent advice when they are compensated with  comissions from products they sell you,but there's an awful lot to be  said for advisors who arecompensated based on how well your investment turns out. Failing thatoption, an advisor whose income depends on their advice rather thanwhat they sell makes sense.

All of you who have responded to my post have just missed the point entirely.  The facts are that the average equity investor nets a 4.3% return largely because they act based on their emotions.  This barely outpaces the rate of inflation.  Meanwhile, the S&P 500 has returned nearly 12%.  Financial service reps who are focused on educating their clients and establishing good relationships help counter that occurrence.

In response to your comeback on my FYI, I get the impression that you think that people who work for or at other companies DO NOT quit?  That's what some people do.  But I know that all good companies have systems in place to address that occurrence as well.

Nitpick all you want...I can just say that my clients are winners and I am a winner too.

Forget the formulas...you only win when you're lucky!Bed

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Posted: February 24, 2008, 3:27 am - IP Logged Top

"In response to your comeback on my FYI, I get the impression that youthink that people who work for or at other companies DO NOT quit? That's what some people do.  But I know that all good companies havesystems in place to address that occurrence as well."

Wherewould you get that impression? Somebody who isn't quitting has theincentive of wanting you as a repeat customer, and somebody who isquitting doesn't have that incentive.  Wanting your continuedbusiness is an incentive for those who are paid for the products theysell you to sacrifice their own short term gain by selling you a betterproduct (for you) that pays them less. Somebody who isn't paid based onthe product they sell you has nothing to gain by selling you aninferior product whether they're quitting or not.

What is themost comon system for making sure a rep who's quitting won't put hisshort-term commissions ahead of my interests? 

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Posted: February 24, 2008, 3:39 am - IP Logged Top

I would never put down someone else's job, so I am being careful with my words.  Primerica has tried to recruit me for years.  It's not a company I would ever represent.  Their representatives have been brought before the SEC many times.  Typical news story:

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2004/11/01/daily54.html

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Posted: February 24, 2008, 12:05 pm - IP Logged Top

Hit the Mega Millions jackpot? Here's some advice on what to do next

A drool-inducing $220 million is up for grabs in Tuesday night's Mega Millions lottery drawing. Before all that green goes to your head, we asked three Atlanta-based experts what should be the first five things on a lottery winner's to do list.

Barry Berlin, managing director of the Atlanta office of Atlantic Trust, a private wealth management firm and subsidiary of Invesco:

• Cold call successful people and ask them to recommend financial advisers. Hire a financial adviser, who doesn't work on commissions.

• Pick a place to park the money on the first day. Think safe, short-term and liquid instruments, such as Treasury bills. Don't put it all in a single financial instrument.

• Develop long-term plans for managing the money.

• Set a limit on immediate spending and don't go over it.

• Don't try to change everything about your life right away. "It takes time to get used to what the funds can do."

Sheryl Pressler, consultant and former chief investment officer of the nation's largest public pension fund, the California Public Employees' Retirement System:

• Keep quiet and don't rush to claim your winnings.

• Get a lawyer with expertise in handling lottery winnings. Consider putting ownership of the ticket into a limited liability corporation or partnership to limit potential tax liability and to obscure your identity.

• Don't change anything major in your lifestyle for the first year.

• Take courses to get educated about money management and investing.

• Hire a fee-based financial adviser who is at a reputable firm and experienced in handling large sums of money.

Stephanie Casteel, partner in trusts and estates for King & Spalding:

• Get an unlisted phone number before claiming the prize. A lottery winner she represented was inundated with calls, packages, flowers and balloons sent by financial advisers, people seeking money, etc.

• Put the unclaimed ticket somewhere safe, such as a safe-deposit box, until you are prepared to claim it.

• Hire a good tax or trusts and estates lawyer. Winnings can incur federal and state taxes of up to 41 percent, plus there can be additional taxes on gifts to people. Later, hire an accountant and a financial adviser. One financial adviser she's familiar with charged a flat $100,000 a year.

• Protect yourself from liability. Put ownership in a legal entity, such as a limited liability corporation to reduce potential liability from lawsuits and limit gift taxes.

• Be wary of friends. "Everybody has the next great deal."

This is the best Free advice I ever heard via this website  I Love it....

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Posted: February 25, 2008, 1:33 am - IP Logged Top

NEVER take the annuity...regardless, that is just the dumbest thing to do and exactly what they want you to do.

Who cares what 'they' (the state lottery commission) want you to do.    I don't really see the point in investing the lottery money you win (talking about many millions of dollars type winnings).  You've already made more than a reasonable person could expect to spend in a lifetime.    Its pretty much just a matter of making sure you don't spend it all in the first 5 years.

 

That's why an annuity has its advantages.

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Posted: February 25, 2008, 2:04 pm - IP Logged Top

If you don't see the point in investing it what would you do with it? The only choice besides investing it are to spend it all or keep it under your mattress and take some out now and again.

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Posted: February 25, 2008, 11:25 pm - IP Logged Top

Advisors and planners or just more leeches? Screw all of them. All I need is a 60 month CD, and maybe a tax attorney.

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Posted: February 27, 2008, 11:22 am - IP Logged Top

In terms of actual dollar value, they save a lot of money and you get a lot less when you take the annuity. With that amount of money, there are a lot of different investments you can have access to as an accredited investor that can protect your principle and deliver a nice income stream (like untraded REITs).  Taking the annuity just so you don't spend it all at once is absurd.

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Posted: February 27, 2008, 1:21 pm - IP Logged Top

Were I to win that $220m, I definitely would ask for cash, not an annuity.  That's 50% gone right there.  Then, after the state and federal taxes devour another 41% plus (being a non-U.S. citizen) I'd probably be left with a little over 60 mil.  What would I do with it?  Make sure my immediate family is taken care of - stick a few mil away in the bank and give away the rest to the poor and needy through enterprises or charities that I know really help them.  To be honest, I really don't like money too much - but I do like what it can do to truly help others who really need it.  In the right hands, its the perfect tool.

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