All times shown are Eastern Time (GMT-5:00) | Home -> Forums -> Lottery News -> South Georgia couple wins $270M Mega Millions lottery jackpot South Georgia couple wins $270M Mega Millions lottery jackpotPrevious TopicNext TopicUnited States Member #4963 May 30, 2004 3392 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 25, 2008, 8:32 pm - IP Logged | |
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NY United States Member #24178 October 16, 2005 2244 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 26, 2008, 1:08 am - IP Logged | |
KY Floyd Why was it incredible they hit with all low numbers? The numbers were 7 12 13 19 22, Mega 10 In a game with an upper matrix of 56 how many times do you think that all the numbers drawn have been no higher than 22? If I paid you a dollar for every time that happened, would you be willing to pay me a dollar for every drawing that produced a number higher than 22? I'd even let you include before the matrix expanded. I'll let you do the search, drawing by drawing.... MAVEN U. always omnipresent on LP. You're asking the wrong questions, so you get the wrong answers. Think about this question: is there any reason at all that the winning combination was less likely to be drawn than any *one* of the other 175 million combinations? Perhaps you've heard that they only draw one winning combination? The winning numbers are whatever they are, and every time they draw a set of winning numbers the result is the only combination that can be made from the 5 regular numbers and the 1 mega number that are drawn. The number of combinations using only 22 numbers (no matter how you choose them) is much smaller than the number of combinations using 56 numbers, but that has nothing to do with your chances of winning. Having a combination that has a pattern or distribution similar to the winning numbers doesn't win you squat. If you pay me a dollar every time the winning combination has no number above 22 and I pay you a dollar every time you pick the winning combination, which one of us will come out ahead? | | |
NY United States Member #24178 October 16, 2005 2244 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 26, 2008, 1:23 am - IP Logged | |
I meant a 6/49 game should have more multiple jackpot winners than Mega Millions when all the numbers are under 32. People that use birthdates are less likely to box their numbers in either game and even with all 6 numbers, having the correct mega ball is 1 chance in 6. They will either win the jackpot or have 4 + 0 and win $150. Dividing the total ticket sales by 3.9 million gives a ballpark figure of how many 5 + 0 prize winners there should be. It would around 26 in this drawing so there was a 56% chance the jackpot would be hit. I wonder if anybody else matched all 6 numbers but didn't have them in the correct order where 10 was the mega ball. Since the duplications are concentrated in only 3% of combinations for MM and 5.3% of the combinations in a 6/49 game we should expect more multiple winners in MM, assuming each game sells the same percentage of combinations. Selling more tickets makes any game more likely to produce more winners at every prize level. If there were no duplicate combinations (and we know there were a lot) the 103 million tickets sold would have accounted for almost 59% of the combinations, so we could expect a 59% chance of a winner. Since we know there will always be a lot of duplicates, and a concentration of birthday numbers, far less than 59% of combinations were sold. That means that there would be far less than a 59% chance of a winner. Once the wining numbers were drawn, OTOH, that same concentration of birthday numbers made the chance of a winner more than 59%. | | |
Wandering Aimlessly United States Member #25708 November 5, 2005 4405 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 26, 2008, 1:26 am - IP Logged | |
KY Floyd Why was it incredible they hit with all low numbers? The numbers were 7 12 13 19 22, Mega 10 In a game with an upper matrix of 56 how many times do you think that all the numbers drawn have been no higher than 22? If I paid you a dollar for every time that happened, would you be willing to pay me a dollar for every drawing that produced a number higher than 22? I'd even let you include before the matrix expanded. I'll let you do the search, drawing by drawing.... MAVEN U. always omnipresent on LP. I agree with Coin Toss. Even though any combination of numbers can win, seeing all low numbers like this is extremely rare. I don't track PB or MM, but I can't find a single combination in FL that doesn't have one number in the 30s, 40s or 50s. I just glanced at all the winning Lotto combinations picked so far this year, the 104 picked in 2007 and the 104 picked in 2006, the 104 picked in 2005 --- and I can't even find one! Plus, keep in mind that our state Lotto has less than 1 in 23 million odds, not 1 in 176 million! We have a similar game to MM that is called MegaMoney. Instead of 5 there are 4 balls (1-44) and 1 MB (1-22) The odds are "only" 1 in 2,986,522 and most picks have at least 1 number in the 30s or 40s. There have been a few combinations with all low numbers, but the game is twice a week and there are only a few each year. Therefore, picking 5 numbers for Mega Millions, all being 22 or less, then picking the correct Megaball number, that also being 10 or less ... I would say that's very remarkable! Very, very, very lucky too. | | |
Zeta Reticuli Star System United States Member #30849 January 17, 2006 7285 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 26, 2008, 1:48 am - IP Logged | |
KY Floyd In the "Statistics Method" thread in thos forum RJOh posted: "Since its last matrix change, MegaMillions alone have had seven drawings where all the numbers were 31 or less. 09/27/05 - 14 17 26 27 28 +05 11/08/05 - 08 16 21 25 27 +16 03/21/06 - 04 16 17 28 31 +08 04/10/07 - 07 15 16 19 28 +10 06/15/07 - 01 05 16 26 30 +21 06/22/07 - 11 14 21 24 31 +23 02/22/08 - 07 12 13 19 22 +10 " Then I added: Ok, guesses on the number of drawings for the remainder of '05, butfiguring 2 for Sep of '05, 4 for Oct, 4 for Nov, and 5 for Dec that makes '05 ((27-12-31) 15 '06 104 '07 104 thus far in '08 16 That makes 239 drawings, 7 of those had all numbers 31 or less. 7/239 = .029% 97.1% of those drawings had numbers over 31. I think I'd "play the percentages". ________________________________________ The 2.9% of drawings with all the numbers 31 and under compare to the 97.1% of the time speaks for itself. Volumes. As for the paying each other a dollar, the hypothetical situation was strictly all 31 and under or not, not picking the winning combination. Nice atteempt at a cyber version NYC 3-card monte street hustel, but the results above tell me that for every$3 I'd have to give you, you would have to give me $97.
It's Lotto, not horseshoes or artillery! Close doesn't count! I sell everything at a loss but make up for it in volume - Milo Minderbinder, Catch-22 There are two kinds of jackpot winners...the ones who remained anonymous and the ones that wish they had.
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NY United States Member #24178 October 16, 2005 2244 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 26, 2008, 12:41 pm - IP Logged | |
"That makes 239 drawings, 7 of those had all numbers 31 or less. 7/239 = .029%" 2.988% of the possible combinations in MM can be made with the numbers up to 31. Assuming you didn't miss one, or add one that fits the category it's actually rather surprising that the actual results are so close to theory. For a while your posts have included the tag line that close doesn't count. How does it help you to "play the percentages" when close doesn't count? To win you have to get the right numbers, not just ones that are close or have the same sort of distribution. What would having a similar combination do to improve your chances? You think that the percentage of combinations made of birthday numbers is significant , but look at the combinations that actually do win. Pick one and see how many times that combination has been drawn previously. Do the same for any other winning combination, and all of the combinations you've ever played. The percentages always said those combinations wouldn't win. Then do it for any given mega ball. In the last 279 drawings one megaball has been drawn more than any other, at about 3.94% of the time. Since you're going with the percentages I suppose you'd choose your megaball from the ones that have accounted for 96% of the winning combinations. The way the game works is that you have to pick specific combinations. Even if the combination you pick is 1,2,3,4,5+6, the chances that it will be drawn are exactly the same as any other specific combination, whether it consists only of birthday numbers or of any random mix that covers the full range. | | |
mid-Ohio United States Member #9 March 24, 2001 13921 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 26, 2008, 1:02 pm - IP Logged | |
Actually, the combination 1 2 3 4 5 +6 had 10 hits since the matrix changed. 01/15/08 21 30 42 44 50 +06 11/20/07 14 20 23 42 43 +06 10/16/07 01 02 05 41 44 +25 09/11/07 09 10 17 21 35 +06 04/06/07 24 32 34 36 39 +06 03/27/07 18 25 34 35 42 +06 01/05/07 02 12 44 46 51 +06 08/22/06 03 04 05 07 36 +16 04/18/06 13 14 25 34 50 +06 11/15/05 02 04 05 40 48 +07 That's better than the overall odds of getting a hit and probably better than most combinations that have never won a jackpot. * that which happens most * * is most likely to happen again * 
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United States Member #4194 March 23, 2004 720 Posts Offline | | Posted: February 28, 2008, 3:32 pm - IP Logged | |
He won 275 Million not 270 million. | | |
United States Member #30 January 14, 2001 112 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 2, 2008, 9:06 pm - IP Logged | |
Congrats - Way to Go !!! Wish I could have seen them when they won !!! It's almost like winning. Lee | | |
I dont know where United States Member #1736 June 18, 2003 103 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 6, 2008, 10:23 am - IP Logged | |
did they go into witness protection did any heard anything about they picking up their fame day at the lotto office in Ga I was just curious... I want a picture so I can cut out their face and put me and my wife face on there body.....LOL Like a Rock
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I dont know where United States Member #1736 June 18, 2003 103 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 6, 2008, 11:52 am - IP Logged | |
did they go into witness protection did any heard anything about they picking up their fame day at the lotto office in Ga I was just curious... I want a picture so I can cut out their face and put me and my wife face on there body.....LOL ok... I found it nice picture of the winners http://www.galottery.com/stc/mediacenter/pressDetail.jsp?id=5036181 Like a Rock
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