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Iowa Lottery requires winners to sign tickets
Iowa Lottery: Iowa Lottery requires winners to sign tickets
On the heels of a similar announcement from the Ontario Lottery, the Iowa Lottery has imposed a new rule aimed at reducing the possibility of retailer fraud. Starting March 15, 2008, Iowa retailers will only be able to check and cash lottery tickets if they have first been signed by the ticketholder. The lottery also reinforced that players are responsible for the accuracy of their tickets before leaving the store, and for determining if their ticket is a winner. Under current rules, retailers are able to scan unsigned tickets and inform players if they won. The possibility of retailer fraud emerges in the situation where a player is informed by the retailer that a winning ticket was a loser, and the retailer later claims the winning ticket themselves. In Ontario, this situation played out so many times that the Ontario Lottery suffered a severe blow to its reputation, and was forced to institute strict ticket-signing rules. Investigations by police caught some of the criminal retailers, but many others are thought to have escaped prosecution. In addition to the new ticket-signing rule, the Iowa Lottery will also begin printing receipts for every lottery ticket scanned at a retailer, whether it was a winner or not. The receipts will be printed starting sometime in May. On the Iowa Lottery Web site, the lottery claims that, "[R]eports of fraud, theft and scams [occur] every day." The Iowa Lottery has a section on the site titled, "Player Security", with the tagline, "We take fun seriously." (http://www.ialottery.com/Player_Security/Player_Security.html) The site contains player security tips, explanations of the new ticket-signing rule, a discussion of lottery scams, and various ways to report fraud. It will be joined by a planned public service campaign that will educate players about the changes. Iowa Lottery vice president, Mary Neubauer, says the minute you put your name on the ticket, it protects you, it also protects the store from claims they did something wrong. She explained that it helps maintain the integrity of the entire lottery system. Iowa lottery leaders say it will cost about $500,000 dollars a year to put the plan into practice.
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mn United States Member #59524 March 4, 2008 276 Posts Offline
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I suppose it's not a really big deal, I guess it's good. But if you dont win anything above a couple hundred i dont see the big deal in signing the tickets.
Plus that's in Ontario, Im nowhere near there so I cant really have input.
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Idaho United States Member #56982 November 21, 2007 3225 Posts Offline
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| Posted: March 10, 2008, 12:16 pm - IP Logged |
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Starting March 15, 2008, Iowa retailers will only be able to check andcash lottery tickets if they have first been signed by the ticketholder.
I wonder if this is going to start happening in other states. "No one remembers the person who almost climbed the mountain, only the person who eventually gets to the top."
ThatScaryChick
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Atlanta, GA United States Member #1288 March 13, 2003 2632 Posts Offline
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Many Publix supermarkets in Georgia have a self-scanner for customers to check their own tickets without them leaving their hand. That method would probably cut down on needing a receipt for every ticket scanned. Maybe it was more cost effective for Iowa to do it that way instead of installing self scanners for all retailers.
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Nashville, Tn United States Member #39102 May 3, 2006 302 Posts Offline
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| Posted: March 10, 2008, 2:42 pm - IP Logged |
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Starting March 15, 2008, Iowa retailers will only be able to check andcash lottery tickets if they have first been signed by the ticketholder.
I wonder if this is going to start happening in other states. i hope so waiting patiently for my jackpot
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United States Member #50584 February 26, 2007 601 Posts Offline
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I don't see how signing the tickets will help. If it's a $50 winner, could the clerk not just say woo hoo you won $5 and take the rest for him/herself after you leave the store? If you know how much it won and complain, they could say oops I misread it. It is $50. Is the lottery commission going to start calling people and ask if they were paid the correct amount? They'd have a tough time with mine cuz my signature is illegible.
We have self-checkers here too, but they still don't tell you how much you won. They just say please see the cashier. Do those in other states tell you how much?
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Atlanta, GA United States Member #1288 March 13, 2003 2632 Posts Offline
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I don't see how signing the tickets will help. If it's a $50 winner, could the clerk not just say woo hoo you won $5 and take the rest for him/herself after you leave the store? If you know how much it won and complain, they could say oops I misread it. It is $50. Is the lottery commission going to start calling people and ask if they were paid the correct amount? They'd have a tough time with mine cuz my signature is illegible.
We have self-checkers here too, but they still don't tell you how much you won. They just say please see the cashier. Do those in other states tell you how much? I'm not sure if they tell you how much here or not. However, it's easy enough to ask for a printout ticket showing winning numbers on a given day, then checking the back of a play slip for payout amounts .... after signing and before handing it over to the clerk.
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Chief Bottle Washer New Jersey United States Member #1 May 31, 2000 17054 Posts Online
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| Posted: March 10, 2008, 4:51 pm - IP Logged |
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I don't see how signing the tickets will help. If it's a $50 winner, could the clerk not just say woo hoo you won $5 and take the rest for him/herself after you leave the store? If you know how much it won and complain, they could say oops I misread it. It is $50. Is the lottery commission going to start calling people and ask if they were paid the correct amount? They'd have a tough time with mine cuz my signature is illegible.
We have self-checkers here too, but they still don't tell you how much you won. They just say please see the cashier. Do those in other states tell you how much? Read the rest of the report -- you get a printed receipt.
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United States Member #50584 February 26, 2007 601 Posts Offline
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Read the rest of the report -- you get a printed receipt. If you're not informed enough to know what you won, are you going to know to ask for that receipt?
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Prince of Insufficient Light Ruler of Heck United States Member #13375 March 30, 2005 1357 Posts Offline
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Starting March 15, 2008, Iowa retailers will only be able to check andcash lottery tickets if they have first been signed by the ticketholder.
I wonder if this is going to start happening in other states. Absolutely. In the U.S., lottery winnings are taxable as income.
Receipt for you, receipt for retailer, receipt for taxman. 1099-G
I made a comment about this in another thread, a few days ago. Modern "education" teaches a version of history so fictionalized, it should be followed by "TM"
They're warning me about Osama or whatever. Picture me buying the scam; I say "never!".
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Stroudsburg, PA United States Member #1860 July 11, 2003 2598 Posts Offline
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Not the worst change Iowa ever made to it's lottery, but still a big hassle just to protect those that are too lazy to check their own numbers.
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United States Member #59651 March 8, 2008 174 Posts Offline
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If you're not informed enough to know what you won, are you going to know to ask for that receipt? I agree. When I lived in the New York/New Jersersey area a few years back, I used to see the "Latino's" lined up for hours to buy tickets. I don't think three of them could speak or read English. All the receipts in the world are useless. If a divorce is not a divorce, when it comes to a whinny wife wanting compensation, then a recipt is as valid as the divorce papers.
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United States Member #4194 March 23, 2004 720 Posts Offline
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NY United States Member #24178 October 16, 2005 1739 Posts Offline
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| Posted: March 11, 2008, 4:07 am - IP Logged |
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If you're not informed enough to know what you won, are you going to know to ask for that receipt? There's the key issue. The only people who have a problem are the ones who aren't on the ball enough to take care of themselves. A scanner that only tells you to see a cashier is almost worthless for checking tickets, since the cashier could have done that for you anyway, and it's completly worthless for protecting those who don't know how much they've won.
As far as having to sign the ticket, I suppose retailers will be happy when it stops people from simply handing over a huge stack of tickets to be checked, but I don't see what it will do to stop retailers from lying. The stories I recall seem to be about retailers lying about how much was won, not stealing the ticket outright. Is anyone who would have accepted $10 for an unsigned ticket that won $100 going to know they should get more money just because they signed the ticket?
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Wandering Aimlessly United States Member #25708 November 5, 2005 4379 Posts Offline
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| Posted: March 11, 2008, 4:26 am - IP Logged |
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I don't see how signing the tickets will help. If it's a $50 winner, could the clerk not just say woo hoo you won $5 and take the rest for him/herself after you leave the store? If you know how much it won and complain, they could say oops I misread it. It is $50. Is the lottery commission going to start calling people and ask if they were paid the correct amount? They'd have a tough time with mine cuz my signature is illegible.
We have self-checkers here too, but they still don't tell you how much you won. They just say please see the cashier. Do those in other states tell you how much? I agree with you, since that certainly could happen if someone doesn't ask for a receipt. I got a receipt when I won $72.50 in January, but I wasn't asked to sign the ticket. I guess it would also prevent a clerk or store owner from claiming a big prize at the lottery office, although when my tickets are scanned at Publix, I can see the total due. Still, if everyone would just check the newspaper, call the lottery or, if they use the internet, check their tickets online, there wouldn't be any thefts. I know a sweet lady in her 80s who waits for a couple of months and then takes all her tickets to the supermarket to be checked. I warned her, but she said to me "They're nice girls." I sometimes wonder if she's one of the people with unclaimed tickets.
When I walk into a store I always say "this is a $5 winner" BEFORE I hand it to the clerk. I don't think the clerks where I shop are dishonest, however. If I had a $500 win, I wouldn't want to sign my name. Also, unless they ask for a photo ID like a driver's license, how do they know it's really your name?
Sounds time consuming to me.
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