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Posted: April 9, 2008, 1:28 pm - IP Logged Bottom

3-6-9 is one of the most popular numbers consistently played in Pick 3 games.  Look it up- there will be a big payout EVERY time that number hits, especially straight. 

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Posted: April 9, 2008, 1:50 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

OK, a quick look at the last six months of Illinois Pick 3 numbers revealed this... And they have ball drawings right? 

4/7 eve 5-2-7   4/7 mid  1-4-7   4/6 eve  4-2-7

4/4 eve 3-8-9  4/4 mid 6-0-9   4/3 eve 8-9-3

3/22 mid  1-7-9  3/21 eve 7-1-9  3/21 mid 9-1-7  3/20 eve  8-3-5  3/20 mid 3-5-8

2/19 eve  4-3-6  2/19 mid  4-6-3  2/18  eve 2-4-3

1/15 eve eve 0-2-0  1/15 mid  0-0-8  1/14 eve  0-0-2  1/14 mid  9-2-0

12/1 eve 0-4-3  12/1 mid  2-4-3  11/30 eve  2-3-3  11/30  mid  0-3-3

10/27  eve  1-7-3  10/27 mid 1-7-3

Those are all consecutive draws and within the range of probability for random numbers.  Where's the conspiracy 

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Posted: April 9, 2008, 2:36 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

the same combo coming out 3 times in a row really isnt that big of a deal..look at this way

..Have you ever seen the digit 1( or any single digit) repeat in 3 straight draws..Yes!!!

 

Have you ever seen a pair like 12( or any other pair) repeat for 3 straight draws in a row...Yes!!!

 

the same combo is the samething..its just part of the same group..it has happened many times before..it will happen many times to come..haha

 

Did you notice the pay out increase on the 3rd 077...it went UP!!!!..hahaha

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CT- 3/12  695 Mid 695 Eve

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Posted: April 9, 2008, 3:00 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Lottery draws same numbers 3 days in a row; same thing happened last month

When will the Tenn. Lottery dump the computer draws?

Seven was a lucky number for Tennessee lottery players last week. A very, very, very lucky number.

For three consecutive days, the winning ticket in the Cash 3 drawing was some combination of two sevens and a zero. Thursday, the winning Cash 3 number at midday was 0-7-7. Friday, the winning midday number was 7-0-7. And Saturday evening, the winning number was again 0-7-7.

It was the second time in two months that winning lotto number combinations repeated in consecutive games. In March, the Cash 4 drawings paid out for 1-3-7-2, 1-7-2-3, and 2-3-7-1 over the course of two days.

Lottery officials say the equipment has been checked, certified, audited and checked again. The repeating numbers, they say, are a statistical coincidence.

"We're always watching, monitoring and testing. We have found nothing wrong with how the equipment is operating," said lottery spokeswoman Kym Gerlock.

Last year, a software error in the lottery's computer equipment generated winning numbers for several weeks that never had repeated digits. That meant that people who chose numbers with duplicate digits, such as 5-4-5 or 9-9-9-8, had no chance of winning.

That glitch prompted the state to call in an outside computer review and launch its own audit of the Tennessee lottery computers. Gerlock said the equipment has been certified and passed a compliance audit by the outside auditing firm KPMG Canada. The audit also cleared the computers that Tennessee uses in lieu of traditional pingpong-ball lottery machines.

Bruce Cooil, associate professor of management at Vanderbilt's Owen School of Management, studies the probability of rare events.

"In the Cash 3 Lottery, the probability is less than 1 in 10,000 that one would see the same three numbers in various orders for three of the last four winning numbers," he said. He thinks the lottery should check its equipment.

But Rafe Donahue, adjunct associate professor of biostatistics at Vanderbilt, has watched the Tennessee lottery computers in action and said he was impressed by the precautions the system takes to ensure its random drawings are honestly random.

Two bills that would switch the lottery back to using ping-pong balls are pending in the legislature.

Thanks to four4me for the tip.

NO WAY ...NO HOW!!!

2 days in a row..maybe. It has happened!

But 3 days Disapprove

I wouldn't spend dime one in Tenn.

I have a hard a time enough believing in the 100% integrity of regular BALL DRAWS in my own home state let alone some computer that can calculate HOUSE STAKES vs ACTUAL # OF BETTERS .

Maybe it's a lack of understanding. But I don't get how in BALL DRAW states why they run several tests before the actual draw.

IS IT LIMITED TO "x" amount of pre-draw tests?

Or do LOTTERY OFFICIALS get to choose the number of "dry run tests" ?

Note: When using any system at Lottery Post, keep in mind that there are never any guarantees associated with any numbers provided. The numbers are provided "for entertainment purposes only," and that means the lottery is a form of entertainment, not an investment, and you should only bet what you can safely afford to lose.

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Posted: April 9, 2008, 3:03 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

I think those of you in and around TN should rape the TN Lottery for everything you can the next time something like this happens. Play that 'hunch' and suck the life out their profits. I think if they see a payout of $5,000,000.00 on one Pick 3 draw they'd really do something about it.

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Posted: April 9, 2008, 7:00 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

OK, a quick look at the last six months of Illinois Pick 3 numbers revealed this... And they have ball drawings right? 

4/7 eve 5-2-7   4/7 mid  1-4-7   4/6 eve  4-2-7

4/4 eve 3-8-9  4/4 mid 6-0-9   4/3 eve 8-9-3

3/22 mid  1-7-9  3/21 eve 7-1-9  3/21 mid 9-1-7  3/20 eve  8-3-5  3/20 mid 3-5-8

2/19 eve  4-3-6  2/19 mid  4-6-3  2/18  eve 2-4-3

1/15 eve eve 0-2-0  1/15 mid  0-0-8  1/14 eve  0-0-2  1/14 mid  9-2-0

12/1 eve 0-4-3  12/1 mid  2-4-3  11/30 eve  2-3-3  11/30  mid  0-3-3

10/27  eve  1-7-3  10/27 mid 1-7-3

Those are all consecutive draws and within the range of probability for random numbers.  Where's the conspiracy 

CL...actually what you have shown, is normal. 60% of the times, 1 digit will repeat from one drawing to the next ( midday to midday and evening to evening ). 2 digit returns average about 1 in 6 draws and they can move eve to eve and midday to eve or eve to midday and midday to midday, for the 2 digit returns....I will generally watch for those that are out  for awhile and play them. But what has happened in Tenn........WOW !!!!!!!!!

Also. what you have shown is over 6 months and it does happen from time to time...even here in michigan...but Tenn is a whole different animal............

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Posted: April 9, 2008, 9:38 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

I wouldn't put to much into 369 coming out and having a high payout. It's a popular number with mechanics and mussel car buffs. 369 big block Chevy engine.

Also considering the digits 3-6-9 were showing up a lot in the draws before 369 came out. Some people just might have had a hunch it would come out.

How many people who live at the address 369 you think might play it especially on Christmas.

 

CASH 3 12/25/2007 Evening 369 $120,290.00

It is a 396 cu. inch big block a relative of the 409 cu. inch big block which spawned the baddest rat motor of all the 427 cu. inch bigblock. Me like big block Chebies.

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It is a 396 cu. inch big block a relative of the 409 cu. inch big block which spawned the baddest rat motor of all the 427 cu. inch bigblock. Me like big block Chebies.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Big-Block_engine
[ Generation 1: "W" Series 
348 available from 1958 to 1961
409 available from 1961 to 1965
427 (Z11) available only in 1963

2 Generation 2: Mark IV Series
396 and 402 was introduced in the 1965 and 396 bored out by .030 to create
402 they called it the Turbo-Jet 400 and stuck it in these models 
1965 Chevrolet Corvette
1965-1972 Chevrolet Chevelle
1967-1972 Chevrolet Camaro
1968-1970 Chevrolet Nova
1970-1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
1965-1972 Full-size models
 
427 was introduced in 1966
454 then came as a result of the mussel car era
572 was a hopped up version of the 454 Chevrolet began offering an 572 cu in (9.4 L) "crate motor" in 2003 which produced 720 hp
 
And of course all these big blocks engines can be massaged to make a lot of different configurations.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Big-Block_engine
[ Generation 1: "W" Series 
348 available from 1958 to 1961
409 available from 1961 to 1965
427 (Z11) available only in 1963

2 Generation 2: Mark IV Series
396 and 402 was introduced in the 1965 and 396 bored out by .030 to create
402 they called it the Turbo-Jet 400 and stuck it in these models 
1965 Chevrolet Corvette
1965-1972 Chevrolet Chevelle
1967-1972 Chevrolet Camaro
1968-1970 Chevrolet Nova
1970-1972 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
1965-1972 Full-size models
 
427 was introduced in 1966
454 then came as a result of the mussel car era
572 was a hopped up version of the 454 Chevrolet began offering an 572 cu in (9.4 L) "crate motor" in 2003 which produced 720 hp
 
And of course all these big blocks engines can be massaged to make a lot of different configurations.

Thanks for straightening that out. I currently own a vehicle with a 350 M motor see if that is in wikiwiki.

But nevertheless, yeah, all of these engines are kindred, but saying 369 cu. in. is kinda like scratching the chalk board to us old motor heads.  No biggie.

The last thing I rebuilt is a 225 Evinrude loop scavenge 2-stroke boat engine, it is rated in KW output @ 5500 rpms its output (theoretically) is about 18 Kwatts. the boat weighs about 2,700lbs. at about 1/2 throttle trimmed out on calm water is about as fun as it gets, it is almost like flying with instantaneous response.  If you ever so slightly accelerate it puts you back and turning you can feel the G force!

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Thanks for straightening that out. I currently own a vehicle with a 350 M motor see if that is in wikiwiki.

But nevertheless, yeah, all of these engines are kindred, but saying 369 cu. in. is kinda like scratching the chalk board to us old motor heads.  No biggie.

The last thing I rebuilt is a 225 Evinrude loop scavenge 2-stroke boat engine, it is rated in KW output @ 5500 rpms its output (theoretically) is about 18 Kwatts. the boat weighs about 2,700lbs. at about 1/2 throttle trimmed out on calm water is about as fun as it gets, it is almost like flying with instantaneous response.  If you ever so slightly accelerate it puts you back and turning you can feel the G force!

350 Chevy engine

 one of my favorite numbers

While i am mostly into big blocks more has been done to the 350 engine then just about any engine. Gorilla motor comes to mind. You can mix and mingle 400 Chevy parts cranks etc and build just about any street or strip aplication. All depends on how deep your pockets are.