Tennessee Lottery computerized drawings under suspicion again

I think the pre-draw information would come in very handy.  It is too bad we aren't privy to it.  We shouldn't have to send an SASE to the lottery Corp to get those results.  I use mainly vtracs and let me tell you..I have seen some things...there are certain days that "belong" to the computerized lottery and certain days you can hit.  It is almost like playing craps I guess..some combinations go to the "house" and others to the players.

See I have this MAJOR PROBLEM..with Tampering..expecially the ball drawn states..Granted I dont live in a lottery State but I would ASSUME..that not everyone that works for the lottery has access to the balls or the machines..therefore if any tampering has been done would have to be attached to those that has access to the balls or machines..computers can be tampered with also..although I am no computer expert in fact I would classify myself as computer stupid..but a little extra code here or a little extra there I am sure they can get a combo to show after a certain sequence has shown or something to that effect..

As far as the pre-test draws are concerned...you really need to find a better answer than to prevent tampering..ESPECIALLY WITH THE COMPUTER drawn states..did someone steal a combination out of the computer ..NO..they were present in that computer last time it was used..all of them should still be in there next time it is used..you can believe whatever you want..the main purpose of those pretest draws is throw off any patterns that are running..and I believe they are so secret..that some states will not even let you have them..that puts you at a disadvantage..because they know what numbers came up and are gone until it is time for the show again..YOU DONT GET THAT INFO..I commend Texas for at least putting the info on their website where others keep that info from the players..which SHOULD BE ILLEGAL..by all means..

The Only True Random drawing there is !!!!

Turn the machine on and what 3 balls come out is the winner..and repeat that same process over and over and over and over..ANY COMBINATION THEY take out of the machine will have an effect on what you decide to play..PRE-TEST OR NOT!!!!

If you're so worried about tampering why would you think that tampering isn't a good reason for doing pre-tests? You should be thrilled that they do pre-tests, and you should be asking them to do more.

Anyone with a lick of sense would never do a drawing without checking the machine (whether a ball machine or a computer) first, to make sure that it is working properly as far as they can tell. Besides the (very slim) possibility of tampering, there are all sorts of things that could simply go wrong. Things break. It's as simple as that. It's impossible to prevent all unexpected failures, but having several successful draws after starting the process reduces the chances that the real drawing will be interrupted by a problem.

In the case of computerized drawings, everyone who's afraid that some massive conspiracy will result in a rigged outcome should want plenty of pre-tests, where the results aren't revealed. In the event that there was a software issue designed to produce a specific result plenty of pre-tests increase the chances that such a result would occur during a test, rather than a real drawing. Not revealing the results of the pre-tests would mean that the conspirators would have less chance of being able to detect any results that would otherwise tip them off to a future result. Even if the program was designed to produce a specific result based on some set of circumstances, it would be a trivial matter for a good security program to keep that result, if it even happened, from benefitting anyone unless nearly everyone involved was part of the conspiracy.

For ball machines pre-tests should also be part of the overall security procedures. In the unlikely event that there is enough of a departure from randomness  that it might matter, having random numbers of pre-tests will help conceal it. That doesn't put anyone at a disadvantage, though it  could theoretically limit the advantage of those who search for patterns, or non-randomness. For those who are confused about the reason for pre-tests, they're for the benefit of the lottery's security, and players aren't entitled to know the results.

As far as I'm concerned, this is just another example of how you can take statistics and throw them in the litter box if you are observing short-term draws. I've seen way, way too many "odd" occurances in draws in all states over the years.  If everything actually fell "as it should" in the Pick 3, then the longest-out digits and combinations would be drawn each day.   It "don't work that way".

It's only over the long run that things fall into place. In 3 or 4 days of draws, anything can happen that is 180 degrees from what "should" happen.  It may also be true that someone didn't clean out the RNG cache in TN and this happened.  But that wouldn't be the first time, or the first state that it happened in..  Sticking too closely to logic with digits is probably no better in the short term predictions than is using "illogic".  So you just do the best you can.

Ky Floyd...have you ever gone to Play Bingo anywhere....

They have all the balls out in their hole before they start bingo and have someone come up and check the machine TO MAKE SURE ALL THE BALLS ARE PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR before they start playing..after that there is no pretesting the balls..or machines..or none of that bullcrap..

You Know what..I am 45 years old..and I have been playing Bingo since I was a little boy with my Mom..maybe..once or twice in the past 30 years or so have I ever seen the BINGO BALL SHOOT, shoot out a number and it Bounced around on the floor..they just picked it up and put it in the monitor so everyone could see it..NO BIG DEAL...now..is the lotteries machines and balls made by some 3rd world country whos craftsmanship is so shabby that they have to test GOD KNOWS how many times before and probably God knows how many times after a draw..there is nothing wrong with their equipment..their equipment works just fine..and will work just fine and even if a ball does get stuck..SO WHAT...HAVE an observer there to reach in and get it out..They try to make things much harder than they should be..

TO make sure the Equipment works fine...<snip>...why in the hell would you need to pretest after the damn draw for..you just pretested before the draw to get to the PAYING DRAW..after the paying draw they PRETEST AGAIN...for what?..

ANY COMBINATION..I dont care if it is ONE BALL..2 BALLS..3 BALLS..10 balls..it will mess up NATURAL FLOW..because the next combination they take out SHOULD BE NEXT..oh I am wired up now..hahaha..I only found out about these pretests draws after joining LP here 2 years ago..because I always wondered why I worked up a set of numbers they wouldnt show til months later or longer and I knew there was something wrong and didnt know what it was..now I do!!!!

Lotterybraker said   "TO make sure the Equipment works fine...<snip>...why in the hell would you need to pretest after the damn draw for..you just pretested before the draw to get to the PAYING DRAW..after the paying draw they PRETEST AGAIN...for what?..  "

With bingo multiple games are drawn one after the other after things are verified working. 

After any ball drop lottery game is drawn those balls are put back in their container and locked securely away. 

They perform pre and post draw testing to make sure someone has not replaced ballsets with some "loaded" to effect an outcome of a future game .... implications of that are enormous.

Each game drawn is separate and stands on its own merit, therefore undergo testing for randomness before actual drawing.

Pre and post testing trips me up as far as what I think should be falling ..... but understand because of the above reasons it is absolutely necessary to insure nothing has been tampered with while under lock and key.

If you actually think that having the pre draw results and the real draw results along with the after draw results will give you anymore edge over the game then you would have not knowing the pre draw results and the after draw results. Your dreaming there is no indication that knowing these results will give you a better chance at winning the next draw. The main reason i say this is because you have know way of knowing what ball sets will be used for any draw. And even if you did you would still have no way of knowing what number will be drawn.

Normally they state which ballset was used for a given draw, also sometimes the machine. 

Florida used to post both on their site but believe they may not now.  I used to get that info from the TX lottery also, haven't looked or ask lately. 

Some time ago I inquired about GA you had to go to the Georgia Lottery headquarters to view the information but was available upon request. 

Personally I believe it should be published on every lottery's website for examination .... then everyone would know how many ballsets they're using for a given game.  That last tidbit is quite helpful especially if the structure of the game seems to have changed [not including switching to RNG] and you can't get a handle on what's been done to cause it.    

I propose instead a bill that requires the program code itself and the source device i.e. WNG that generates the drawings, to be public information like the draw history is. Perhaps also to have the store terminals use the same program code for QP so that if you got QP you're on an even playing field. I speculate that the program is trying to be "fair" by having the sums add up some certain way so that there would be no bias but in doing so caused more bias. You in TN have a golden opportunity to figure out *why* a certain combination would come out.

Definition of random -proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern: the random selection of numbers.