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As Fla. lottery sales slow, schools stand to lose

As Fla. lottery sales slow, schools stand to lose

Posted: 4/14/2008 8:46:25 AM

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Penny-pinching Floridians aren't playing the lottery as much as expected, and that's bad news for state legislators trying to minimize school budget cuts next year.

Lackluster ticket sales have prompted state economists to reduce their projection for this year's sales by $47 million. They also scaled back projections for the next two years by $159 million.

"The news just gets better and better, huh?" said a wry Rep. Ray Sansom, R-Destin, the House budget chairman.

The lower predictions complicate an already dismal budget outlook in Tallahassee.

Lawmakers, already grappling with a drop in state tax collections, must finalize a 2008-09 state budget during the next three weeks. And they're already planning to cut school spending for the first time in decades. The new forecast could mean deeper cuts. Lottery dollars account for about 5 percent of the state's education spending.

The state Revenue Estimating Conference, economists who work for the Legislature and governor, placed the blame for slower ticket sales on the economy, writing, "Pressure is being placed on the discretionary spending dollar of consumers."

They also said the recent addition of lottery enhancements isn't bringing in the cash that might be expected because they "were introduced at approximately the same time, in the current unfavorable economic environment."

For example, the lottery's new $30 ticket game, which offers bettors more chances to win bigger prizes, has been offset by reduced sales of existing $20 tickets.

Lottery sales are still expected to grow from this year's $1.28 billion. But sales are now projected to grow just 3 percent to $1.32 billion in 2008-09; and 2 percent to $1.35 billion in 2009-10. Gov. Charlie Crist, among others, had hoped for more money to help cope in the tight fiscal times.

Sansom and other House leaders oppose expansion of gambling and say that the slow growth in the lottery is proof that balancing the budget on bettors' habits is unwise.

"Gambling is a stagnant source of revenue. We've always known that," said House Speaker Marco Rubio, R-West Miami.

The House budget approved on a 72-41 vote Thursday relies on lottery money for a range of programs, from school recognition grants to class size reduction and Bright Futures scholarships.

The Senate budget approved Wednesday calls for plugging most of a $185 million cut in higher education with additional lottery revenues. That, plus a proposed 6 percent tuition hike, would allow universities and community colleges to squeak by with negligible budget cuts of less than 2 percent.

Without all that lottery money, senators would have to cut a little deeper or to search for another source of replacement revenue in the worst budget year in decades.

"It's going to make us readjust some, but I don't think it will be terrible," said Sen. Evelyn Lynn, R-Ormond Beach, chair of the higher education budget committee and likely a lead negotiator in the forthcoming budget conference. "I live and hope that in conference something magical will happen."

Source: The Ledger

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Posted: April 14, 2008, 9:53 am - IP Logged Bottom Top

"Sansom and other House leaders oppose expansion of gambling and say that the slow growth in the lottery is proof that balancing the budget on bettors' habits is unwise."

Translation: Since the budget Sansom and other purposed is higher than revenues, they must blame it on slower than expected lottery sales.

The average tax payer knows they can't spend more than they make in a year and their budget isn't depended upon hitting the lottery for "extra" income, but apparently Sansom and the others planned on hitting the lottery.

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Well..

If they expanded their horizons a bit and:

#1 Offered a Midday Game too. (How much can that costs to host?)

#2 Offered Online Betting options (and sales to people in other states)

would be a great start!

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Well..

If they expanded their horizons a bit and:

#1 Offered a Midday Game too. (How much can that costs to host?)

#2 Offered Online Betting options (and sales to people in other states)

would be a great start!

Flamarko,

Maybe someone heard you because I saw a sign at the store tonight that said Florida will start a Midday drawing on May 19th.  Hooray! 

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Flamarko,

Maybe someone heard you because I saw a sign at the store tonight that said Florida will start a Midday drawing on May 19th.  Hooray! 

THANKS GOD

Now I don't have to wait til 8 p.m. anymore.

:)

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THANKS GOD

Now I don't have to wait til 8 p.m. anymore.

:)

Yep.  The new drawing will be at 1:30 pm.  So you can win twice in one day!

 

Good luck!

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Posted: April 15, 2008, 9:49 am - IP Logged Bottom Top

Do you happen to have any info (online) about this ?

The Florida Lottery website has nothing on this in any section of their website.

And my local stores seem to be clueless..

Any info would be great.

THanks

David

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Do you happen to have any info (online) about this ?

The Florida Lottery website has nothing on this in any section of their website.

And my local stores seem to be clueless..

Any info would be great.

THanks

David

Never mind.

I just spoke with a customer service rep at FLA LOTTERY on the phone.

IT IS TRUE.

MAY 19th is the DAY for MIDDAY DRAWS!!!!

:)

HOOORAY!

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Posted: April 15, 2008, 10:27 am - IP Logged Bottom Top

The Florida schools might lose some funding as a result of this but all too often any state with a lottery that talks about "bucks for education" uses voo doo accounting and those "bucks for education" become part of a shell game.

The money from the lottery does indeed go into the school system, but an equal or greater sum is taken out of the school system from somewhere else.

That's not the lottery's fault, but it makes the lottery appear to be the bad guy when there is a shell game going on.

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Posted: April 15, 2008, 11:28 am - IP Logged Bottom Top

i played the fl lottery last time i went to orlando. i won nothing. the scratch off's are horrible... i bet that scratch off's are worst in bigger states