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N.J. mom-and-pop lottery retailers worried about competition

N.J. mom-and-pop lottery retailers worried about competition

Posted: 4/14/2008 9:48:00 AM

New Jersey Lottery

Buying a lottery ticket when picking up a quart of milk might be par for the course. But if a state marketing plan is enacted, customers soon might buy tickets while purchasing furniture and home goods, too.

To raise more revenue, state Senate President Richard J. Codey, D-Essex, is proposing that the state encourage big stores to sell New Jersey Lottery tickets, including Target, Home Depot and Dunkin' Donuts. Normally the domain of smaller convenience stores and food markets, lottery sales are not banned in larger stores, but the plan seeks to expand ticket sales to those retailers.

The proposed expansion raises the question of whether the approach will hurt smaller stores that rely on the lottery to draw customers into their stores.

"That sounds like the state of New Jersey. They'll sell lottery everywhere," said Dino Delprete, owner of Dino's Deli & Subs in Egg Harbor Township.

Local store managers who sell lottery tickets say there's always competition, whether from chain stores or grocery stores.

"It won't make an impact to the point where I'd go outside and scream," said Ken Patel, manager of a 7-Eleven store in Northfield. "It won't make a difference." He pointed out that lottery tickets are already sold at larger venues like ShopRite and Genuardi's.

"People sell lottery tickets down the street," Delprete said. "The impact is when they start selling them and then people eventually go back to where they used to buy them. People leave but then they come back."

Since Delprete's store sells groceries and deli food along with lottery tickets, any loss from ticket sales wouldn't hurt him as much as a retailer whose main products include lottery tickets. Still, he cites the location of his store as a prime factor.

"We're a mom-and-pop store," Delprete said. "Those Wal-Marts and stuff are 10 miles away. Where it would affect people are people that are close to those places."

Stephon Hunter, manager of Allstar Liquors on Atlantic Avenue in Atlantic City, agrees.

"I'm in Atlantic City so it's not going to affect me," Hunter said. "I'm for the revenue if it's going to bring taxes down." He said he might have another opinion if he was actually in close proximity to a Target or Wal-Mart that might sell lottery tickets under Codey's plan.

The case is the same at Pleasantville Check Cashing & Lottery, where most customers live locally and the nearest Target is 20 minutes away, store employees said.

Yet residents of local suburbs, such as Louis Monzo of Galloway Township, said picking up the tickets would be easier if it could be made a part of their routine.

"You don't always want to run to the liquor store just to get lottery tickets," Monzo said as he was finishing his shopping at Target in Mays Landing with Kathy Oliver, also of Galloway Township. "We're in Target and Wal-Mart at least once a week."

"I hate going to the liquor store," Oliver said. Both said they would likely buy tickets more often if they were sold at bigger stores they frequent.

Angela Callari, of Absecon, agreed that having lottery tickets available at the store would save her an extra trip.

"I'd buy them anywhere," Callari said. "Just for the convenience of it. I don't think it would hurt."

Codey has talked about offering big stores lottery games tailored to their businesses, like scratch-offs that offer store discounts to winners. While convenience stores, liquor stores and local independent stores are known for selling lottery tickets, those shopping the big stores maintained the effect of widening ticket sales would be minimal.

"I think it's a different clientele," said Elizabeth Little, of Brigantine.

Stewart Holzman, of Penns Grove, said he would buy lottery tickets anywhere they're sold.

"There are too many people; why would it take away business?" Holzman said.

"People will buy them any place they can get the lottery tickets," said Frank Vecchiarello, of Marlton. "They'll probably sell more lottery tickets that way."

Source: Press of Atlantic City

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This is an interesting article.  Usually retailers complain that they don't get a big enough cut (think Oklahoma) or that it costs more than they make.  When threatened by a loss of business they might have a different take. 

I'm not surprised to see Lotteries branch out.  It makes sense to spread the selling base and get into stores that won't be affected by the increasing price and decreasing sales of gasoline.  I'd expect this to become a trend in all states, as long as they can work out the details.  Wal-Mart has been reluctant to align itself with Lotteries, and few of those types of places want the extra work for their clerks.  Kiosks sound probable... 

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Mom and Pop stores lottery tickets sales are hurt more when they can't cash their customers' winning tickets because they don't carry enough money to cash the larger winners.

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Business is business and my take is that this is more than fair. Plus it is better for the consumer, for he/she is able to get tickets wherever he/she may be.

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I think it's a good idea. If these tickets were sold in places like Walmart, Target, etc. I think sales may go up a bit. People who otherwise would not buy tickets and who do their regular shopping at one of these places, might end up buying a few tickets after they're finished shopping.

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It's not fun to buy tickets at Walmart, Target, or Home Depot. I bought Superlotto Plus at shopping mall and Sears before. Nothing is special.

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I think it's a good idea. If these tickets were sold in places like Walmart, Target, etc. I think sales may go up a bit. People who otherwise would not buy tickets and who do their regular shopping at one of these places, might end up buying a few tickets after they're finished shopping.

In most mom and pops and convenient stores the lottery terminal is strategically placed near or between the cash registers. Grocery stores usually have the lottery terminal at the service desk and Wal Mart, Target, Best Buys, or Bed Bath and Beyond probably would too.

I think an occasional player is more likely to buy tickets after purchasing gas, smokes, beer, soda, bread or, milk at a convenient store than standing in a second line with a cart full of paid items to buy lottery tickets at a Wal Mart or Victoria's Secrets.

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I concur 110% with Rjoh's statement. Mom and Pop shops neednt fear, sharing is the goal.

 I commend the state for seeing an opportunity to expand and reach more players. More players means more revenue. More revenue means possibly higher jackpots.

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i don't see no worries. i have had more winners in mom and pop stores than food lion or lowes food, but that could just be my timing

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In my state stores like Walmart, Target and Meijer have similar size stores and target the same markets, yet Meijer is the only one selling lottery tickets.  Since these stores are often in the same shopping area, I assumed the ones nothing selling lottery tickets made a conscience decision not to do so.

In my home town after Walmart came to town a few mom and pa stores selling lottery tickets went under but it wasn't because Walmart took their lottery business.

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