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Church rejects donation from lottery winner

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After Robert Powell hit the Florida Lottery jackpot last month and took home more than $6 million, he thought of his church.

And he offered to drop his tithe, around $600,000, in the collection plate of First Baptist Orange Park.

But the church and Pastor David Tarkington politely declined and told Powell they will not accept the lottery winnings.

Many churches do not approve of the lottery and gambling but on the other hand Pastor Dr. Lorenzo Hall of the El-Beth-El Divine Holiness Church says $600,000 can do a lot of good.

"I'm against the lottery, but if one of my members won the lottery, I wish and I hope he would give 10% to the church, we could do a lot of things with that money," says Hall.

As a Holiness minister, Dr. Hall says he does not ask where members get the money they decide to donate.

He said he would welcome Powell's donation to his inner city church anytime.

"We are in the process now of building a youth center, and you would be surprised at the people that can be helped with $600,000," says Hall.

Bethel Baptist Church member Lottie Walker says if she won, the first thing she would do is give lottery money to her church.

"Anything extra is bonus so that would be an extra blessing of offering after that, so if I did win lotto, sweepstakes I would tithe to my church," says Walker.

First Baptist Orange Park Pastor David Tarkington would not say exactly why the church refused the money, saying only he didn't want to talk about members' gifts.

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justxploring's avatar - villiarna
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Posted: August 15, 2008, 1:27 am - IP Logged

Isn't Bingo a form of gambling?

 

In 2003 a man on Marco Island in FL won $14.3M and the Salvation Army returned his $100,000 check.  He was a retired stockbroker and said that investing in the market is just as much as a gamble, so he was puzzled by the reaction to his donation.

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    Posted: August 15, 2008, 1:41 am - IP Logged

    It always surprises me when I read stories of churches turning away lottery winners donations. The money could do so much good for a lot of people. It's not like these people are handing over money they earned from dealing drugs.

    "No one remembers the person who almost climbed the mountain, only the person who eventually gets to the top."

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      Posted: August 15, 2008, 3:13 am - IP Logged

      If that particular church is not willing to accept the donation, then that is their CHOISE!, There are plenty of charities that would be willing to accept that money. I am sure that he could donate that amount of money to a homeless shelter, and probally write off most off it on his taxes!  To me that is a win win situation. 

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        RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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        "I'm against the lottery, but if one of my members won the lottery, I wish and I hope he would give 10% to the church, we could do a lot of things with that money," says Hall.

        I wonder if that's 10% of the annuity value before taxes or 10% of what the winner actually gets after taxes even if he accepts the cash value.  Some pastors believe God shouldn't have to stand in line and wait for Uncle Sam to get his share first.

        * you don't need more tickets, just the right ticket * 
        * your best chance at winning a lottery jackpot is to buy a ticket * 
             Wink 

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          Posted: August 15, 2008, 8:58 am - IP Logged

          I have an interesting story to share about this as well.  I was troubled with myself to know whether I was doing the right thing by playing the lottery.  And had asked the elders of the church about playing the lottery.  My pastor stated he believed it to be a sin.  So, I prayed about it for a long time.  Many days I fasted and prayed.  My church had a guest speaker coming to lecture during a conference.  My husband and I planned to attend for the soul purpose of seeing this speaker because I  had seen him once before and I saw miracles happen before my eyes for the first time in a church., many, many years before at a different church.  When we heard he was coming, I said to myself, "If it is meant for me to win the lottery, surely this annointed one will say something about it to me or to the church."  Well, as it would turn out, I couldn't attend ANY of the services during the conference.  The following Sunday, when we returned to church., at the end of the service, my preacher stated that the guest speaker had prophesied that "this church will be blessed through a winning lottery ticket." 

          "But," my pastor said, "I believe it to be a sin to buy lottery tickets.  I can't stress that enough." 

          So my husband I agreed that if we ever won a jackpot, we could honestly say "an investment finally paid off."  It's really none of his business which investment, is it? 

          Wink And yes, I believe playing the lottery is exactly like working the stock market.  It is all a volitile gamble.

          Don't you find it odd that this story is posted at the same time this is going on in my life?  Someone trying to tell me something?

          voir-vous dans mes reves!Cool

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            Posted: August 15, 2008, 11:17 am - IP Logged

            I don't understand any Pastor saying that they don't want lottery money.  Do they know were the money they collect ever Sunday come from.  They preach that those who wlak walks of this world should change and in changing some drug dealers come in that are still selling drugs and put money in the offering , those who are still prositituding put money ing the offering thos who go to the casino and win put money in the offering and on and on.  So why and how could he say that they did not want lottery money and don't know were the money he collect every Sunday come from.

             

            Doc

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              Posted: August 15, 2008, 12:58 pm - IP Logged

              A church, like anyone else, has the right to choose where they knowingly get money from. This church has chosen not to put the sparkle of the dollar ahead of their principles.

              An alternative for the lottery winner is to spread the donations around to several other churches with smaller anonymous donations. Spread it around. Smaller inner city churches often need money for the basics such as building repairs and for outreach programs which help the local community.

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                Posted: August 15, 2008, 1:21 pm - IP Logged

                If this Pastor thinks it's soooo bad, I don't believe he has read in his Bible where it says the "the wealth of the wicked is laid up for the just..."

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                  Posted: August 15, 2008, 2:21 pm - IP Logged

                  The church has every right to refuse any money from any source they deam unworthy of gods grace. However in the end it will all be his.

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                    Posted: August 15, 2008, 2:30 pm - IP Logged

                    If worthiness was a prerequisite for God's grace, we would ALL perish. But yes, it is all His. Not just in the end, but now, yesterday, and forever. The silver is His and the gold is His.

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                      Posted: August 15, 2008, 7:31 pm - IP Logged

                      Almost reminds me of the story of a Pastor in Chicago years ago preached against playing the lottery and his wife plays behind his back and wins right? so the pastor was asked how he felt about the lottery now that his wife had won 5mil and his reponse was IT'S NOT A SIN WHEN YOU WIN!!Wink

                       

                      True Story!

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                        Posted: August 15, 2008, 8:12 pm - IP Logged

                        I hope that they are against the stock market too because is the same crap, i hope they don't receive donation from someone in the stock market or put their money in the stock market since they want to take that route...Trading in the stock market is like giving your breathen your thrash who your breathen knows no better...I just hope they have that in mind and don't place their money in the stock market either...

                        I sometimes can blame them because at the current level that the lotteries is is really sickening...

                        but if i was to create a lottery a pick3/12 there is no way in the UNIVERSE they can't tell me i can't donate it to the church or gamble on it...YOu see there is different levels of lotteries that the church doesn't know...

                        Another subject is the music, certain churches don't allow certain music to be play in their church even if it was christian, yet God created music but i can understand their point because Christ said: "leave to Ceasar what is of Ceasar...

                        It is confusing...It all depends on the church...

                        anyways more important than this is gaining souls to God, creating cartoons of church, expanding Christianity teaching so that the entire world hear his word...Please believe me it is important...You may talk all you want you all are young but when you are in your last moments of your life, when you are in your death bed what goes to your head...And i am sure 1 soul is worth more than 600,000 dollars...

                        Please you have to believe me, this world is sickening my condition makes me see that most people despite that they may look o.k are mentally sick or need the word of the Lord...A lot of people...

                        anyways i am not here to debate....


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                          Posted: August 16, 2008, 12:19 am - IP Logged

                          Isn't Bingo a form of gambling?

                           

                          In 2003 a man on Marco Island in FL won $14.3M and the Salvation Army returned his $100,000 check.  He was a retired stockbroker and said that investing in the market is just as much as a gamble, so he was puzzled by the reaction to his donation.

                          Are you trying to make sense of religious hypocrisy?

                          Good luck !


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                            Posted: August 16, 2008, 12:25 am - IP Logged

                            I don't understand any Pastor saying that they don't want lottery money.  Do they know were the money they collect ever Sunday come from.  They preach that those who wlak walks of this world should change and in changing some drug dealers come in that are still selling drugs and put money in the offering , those who are still prositituding put money ing the offering thos who go to the casino and win put money in the offering and on and on.  So why and how could he say that they did not want lottery money and don't know were the money he collect every Sunday come from.

                             

                            Doc

                            Very good points.

                            More hypocrisy

                            Even if the prostitute or the drug dealer didn't directly donate money, it was probably handled by them indirectly.

                            If the premise of the church is that the money is blood money, then all money should fall in that category. Most, if not all money has probably been used for "evil" purposes too, not just monks doing transactions...lol

                            Why do I even bother?