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Church rejects donation from lottery winner
New Member Bronx United States Member #50582 February 26, 2007 2 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 15, 2008, 2:30 pm - IP Logged |
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If worthiness was a prerequisite for God's grace, we would ALL perish. But yes, it is all His. Not just in the end, but now, yesterday, and forever. The silver is His and the gold is His.
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charlotte nc United States Member #3308 January 6, 2004 27 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 15, 2008, 7:31 pm - IP Logged |
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Almost reminds me of the story of a Pastor in Chicago years ago preached against playing the lottery and his wife plays behind his back and wins right? so the pastor was asked how he felt about the lottery now that his wife had won 5mil and his reponse was IT'S NOT A SIN WHEN YOU WIN!!
True Story!
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Georgia United States Member #21312 August 29, 2005 1761 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 15, 2008, 8:12 pm - IP Logged |
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I hope that they are against the stock market too because is the same crap, i hope they don't receive donation from someone in the stock market or put their money in the stock market since they want to take that route...Trading in the stock market is like giving your breathen your thrash who your breathen knows no better...I just hope they have that in mind and don't place their money in the stock market either...
I sometimes can blame them because at the current level that the lotteries is is really sickening...
but if i was to create a lottery a pick3/12 there is no way in the UNIVERSE they can't tell me i can't donate it to the church or gamble on it...YOu see there is different levels of lotteries that the church doesn't know...
Another subject is the music, certain churches don't allow certain music to be play in their church even if it was christian, yet God created music but i can understand their point because Christ said: "leave to Ceasar what is of Ceasar...
It is confusing...It all depends on the church...
anyways more important than this is gaining souls to God, creating cartoons of church, expanding Christianity teaching so that the entire world hear his word...Please believe me it is important...You may talk all you want you all are young but when you are in your last moments of your life, when you are in your death bed what goes to your head...And i am sure 1 soul is worth more than 600,000 dollars...
Please you have to believe me, this world is sickening my condition makes me see that most people despite that they may look o.k are mentally sick or need the word of the Lord...A lot of people...
anyways i am not here to debate....
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United States Member #17858 June 22, 2005 5584 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 16, 2008, 12:19 am - IP Logged |
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Isn't Bingo a form of gambling?
In 2003 a man on Marco Island in FL won $14.3M and the Salvation Army returned his $100,000 check. He was a retired stockbroker and said that investing in the market is just as much as a gamble, so he was puzzled by the reaction to his donation. Are you trying to make sense of religious hypocrisy?
Good luck !
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United States Member #17858 June 22, 2005 5584 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 16, 2008, 12:25 am - IP Logged |
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I don't understand any Pastor saying that they don't want lottery money. Do they know were the money they collect ever Sunday come from. They preach that those who wlak walks of this world should change and in changing some drug dealers come in that are still selling drugs and put money in the offering , those who are still prositituding put money ing the offering thos who go to the casino and win put money in the offering and on and on. So why and how could he say that they did not want lottery money and don't know were the money he collect every Sunday come from.
Doc Very good points.
More hypocrisy
Even if the prostitute or the drug dealer didn't directly donate money, it was probably handled by them indirectly.
If the premise of the church is that the money is blood money, then all money should fall in that category. Most, if not all money has probably been used for "evil" purposes too, not just monks doing transactions...lol
Why do I even bother?
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Clarksville United States Member #489 July 15, 2002 7359 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 16, 2008, 3:16 am - IP Logged |
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If that man wanted to make that donation to me the paster should have taken it. By his refusal, he has judged his pairshioner and that also is a sin. A man is not supposed to put his money in a hole in the ground..he is supposed to make his money grow. for poor folks, lottery winnings are the way that most of them do it. I hope that that man finds a church that is willing to take his tithe.
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Idaho United States Member #56982 November 21, 2007 1869 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 16, 2008, 3:29 am - IP Logged |
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If that man wanted to make that donation to me the paster should have taken it. By his refusal, he has judged his pairshioner and that also is a sin. A man is not supposed to put his money in a hole in the ground..he is supposed to make his money grow. for poor folks, lottery winnings are the way that most of them do it. I hope that that man finds a church that is willing to take his tithe. I hope he finds a church who would be willing to except his donation and do some good with it. I'm sure there are quite a few churches out there, that wouldn't turn him away.
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New Member United States Member #64190 August 5, 2008 14 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 17, 2008, 12:47 am - IP Logged |
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a lot of people belive in tilthing 10% to god so i don't see why they wouldn't take it, money is money
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United States Member #13375 March 30, 2005 1112 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 17, 2008, 1:51 am - IP Logged |
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He's welcome to donate to time*treat's church-of-the fire, brimstone and scratch-offs; where the comdemned spend eternity listening to people who are bad at math (attempt to) argue the tax implications of lump sum vs annuity, and each sermon ends with a lovely jaunt through the Book of Revelation ... or USC 26, depending. Prince of Insufficient Light ~ Ruler of Heck
"The Earth moves around the Sun." -- some 'crazy' guy, 1632
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Right here...can't you see me? United States Member #21854 September 10, 2005 112 Posts Offline
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| Posted: August 19, 2008, 10:06 am - IP Logged |
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This reminds me of a story my pastor told me long time ago.
There was a great storm coming and a little town was evacuating their people. A little old man refused to leave and said, "God will save me" The rains came. The old man prayed that God would rescue him. The people came back and told him he needs to get out now. He refused saying "God will save me" The water rose up as high as his porch! A boat was sent out to rescue the old man. He, again, refused saying "God will save me". It rained harder and harder. The water was in his house, now. The man climbed to his roof. A helicopter came to rescue him. He refused, AGAIN, and said "God will save me" The man drowned.
At the Pearly Gates, the old man asked God why didn't He save him? God said,
"I sent my people back for you. I sent a boat for you. I sent a helicopter for you. You refused everything I offered you, even though it was what you asked of me."
The whole point of the story is when you pray, you are to look around you and see what God is doing for you.
These pastors are asking for donations. They are asking people to help with this or that. And then when someone gives them something, like Lottery winnings, they turn their backs. God is giving it to them, but they don't want it. Did the pastor ever stop to think this might be a way for that winner to redeem himself or give back to the Church that brought him to God? 
Don't cry over spilled milk. Go milk another cow!!
Stephanie
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