Wisconsin couple win in lottery -- again!

Aug 22, 2008, 8:49 pm (54 comments)

Wisconsin Lottery

The Mount Horeb couple who made headlines earlier this week because they held two of only four winning tickets sold in Wisconsin for Saturday's SuperCash drawing, turn out to have the other two as well.

Verlyn Adamson, 69, and his wife, Judith, 69, of Mount Horeb, turned in the other two tickets and it turned out they are the only winners in Saturday's drawing and are now $1.4 million richer.

Lottery spokesman Andrew Bohage was surprised when the Adamsons held the first two winning tickets. "I don't recall a time when we've had members of the same household win in the same drawing like that," he said, when they turned in the two tickets.

His shocked doubled today.

"We haven't seen anything quite like this before," he said after learning the Adamsons had the other two winning tickets. "This is unique."

The Adamsons presented two tickets to lottery officials which had Saturday's winning numbers and each of those tickets paid out $350,000. Then they brought in the other two winners, which now raise the total they have won to $1.4 million.

The four tickets were purchased at four different stores in four different communities, lottery officials said. They bought one ticket each at the Stop-N-Go on Highway 18-151 in Barneveld, the Darlington Mini Mart at highways 23 and 81, The Pit Stop in Mineral Point, and the Cenex Mini Mart in Mount Horeb.

Each of those four tickets had the winning numbers in Saturday's SuperCash drawing, which were 1, 5, 8, 13, 24 and 26.

Bohage said Verlyn Adamson chose the numbers based on a "formula" he had worked out.

The Adamsons said they did not want to have a news conference and told lottery officials they would issue a statement through their lawyer.

But after presenting the first two tickets, Judith Adamson said, "I'm in a state of shock." She also said they had been playing the same numbers for several years.

After taxes, the Adamsons will pocket $995,000.

Thanks to mulamula for the tip.

Capital Times

Comments

LckyLary

Oh Joy! We finally have the CORRECT numbers!

Now to get crackin' on figuring out HOW they arrived at them.

If I am successful in doing that then I will freely share it.

It would be a riot if one of my own algorithms given their data gave the same result!

And again, if we guess that 10percent? of players use systems, then when there is a winner (all else equal) there is a 10% chance they used a system. If there were a disproportionate amount of winners that used systems or if a thorough honest backtest of their secret system shows that it made profit even before this drawing, then let me know how much the shareware fee is and if it can do it in nj.

BY the way, it DID happen before, and even more so. A man in Seattle played the same Mega for 10 tickets with different bonus balls but same white balls. He had the first 5 but none of the bonus balls and won I think 1.75M at the time, and said HE used a system.

In January I used a system in PA, and played the same P3 several times for a win.

And I wonder now will WI re-evaluate their draw procedure and do whatever they can to prevent this from happening again???

GASMETERGUY

Who says there is no system!!!!  This couple has one.  So predicting the lotto is possible after all!

More power to them!!!!

LckyLary

There are more systems out there than teenagers at a Jonas Brothers concert. But I have never seen a backtest of any showing consistent profit, which would be a key selling point more so than one major jackpot win and several small wins that may or may not have netted profit before then. I do hope that their system is valid and profitable and can be used on other games including here. I would even be interested in buying it if it could help with Jersey 5 or MM or PB etc. But I would have to see the backtest results first. In fact being a programmer if they want they can contact me to write a program for them to automate their system, wink-wink, nod-nod!

The one big hurdle with any system is it has to overcome the poor return with otherwise random play. 50 cents on the dollar usually. Sometimes less because of taxes. But if a system has a chance to give me just one multimillion life-changing win then it's worth it even if it's otherwise in the red. I'd rather win 5/5 or 6/6 once than several 3/5, 4/6 etc. It depends on the particular system.

The math professor is correct only in an ideal world. A while back in TN a good system was to not play any doubles ever. Also I predict that tonights Mega bonus ball will be on a YELLOW colored ball, in fact I guarantee it, so only play the YELLOW bonus balls on Mega!!!

Uff Da!'s avatarUff Da!

"But after presenting the first two tickets, Judith Adamson said, "I'm in a state of shock." She also said they had been playing the same numbers for several years."

 

What kind of "system" can it be if they have been playing the same numbers for several years?  Sounds mighty strange to me.

RJOh's avatarRJOh

It's not much of a system for jackpot games if it came up with the same combination four times unless they were playing to win several lower tiers prizes.   Since one ticket can win as much as four tickets when the same person owns them, it makes more sense to not have repeats unless you were playing a pick3/4 game.

ThatScaryChick's avatarThatScaryChick

Whatever system they used, it sure paid off! Congrats to them, again!

justxploring's avatarjustxploring

Quote: Originally posted by Uff Da! on Aug 22, 2008

"But after presenting the first two tickets, Judith Adamson said, "I'm in a state of shock." She also said they had been playing the same numbers for several years."

 

What kind of "system" can it be if they have been playing the same numbers for several years?  Sounds mighty strange to me.

I Agree!

You took the words right out of my mouth (or should I say fingers?)  I began to type something similar before I saw your post. 

dejack03

Brad Duke claimed to use a numbering system that had won him a couple hundred dollars (and 85 million) in the Powerball.

Bull.

Sorry guys but it's mathmatically impossible.  ONE:  If such a formula existed, it would have been discovered easily by now.  There is no forumla.  A formula would defeat the entire purpose of the lottery.  TWO:  Lotteries employ a certain range of possibilities, played over a certain population, which USUALLY results in a win a couple of draws later.  MILLIONS of people play random and chosen numbers.  The numbers are drawn RANDOMLY hence...no formula can determine an outcome.  Each player has their own idiosyncrasies; one might say they have a formula, or one might claim they have magic powers, another may claim it's complete luck...maybe even another claims their particular god had something to do with it.  For some reason, most people get behind the "formula" myth.  I think it's the most "credible" myth because it's quasimathmatical and doesn't exclude people by religion or other demographic.  A good way to think of playing the lottery is that you are picking a handful of numbers out of a pool of a HUNDRED MILLION numbers.  That is your number.

jeffrey's avatarjeffrey

Quote: Originally posted by dejack03 on Aug 23, 2008

Brad Duke claimed to use a numbering system that had won him a couple hundred dollars (and 85 million) in the Powerball.

Bull.

Sorry guys but it's mathmatically impossible.  ONE:  If such a formula existed, it would have been discovered easily by now.  There is no forumla.  A formula would defeat the entire purpose of the lottery.  TWO:  Lotteries employ a certain range of possibilities, played over a certain population, which USUALLY results in a win a couple of draws later.  MILLIONS of people play random and chosen numbers.  The numbers are drawn RANDOMLY hence...no formula can determine an outcome.  Each player has their own idiosyncrasies; one might say they have a formula, or one might claim they have magic powers, another may claim it's complete luck...maybe even another claims their particular god had something to do with it.  For some reason, most people get behind the "formula" myth.  I think it's the most "credible" myth because it's quasimathmatical and doesn't exclude people by religion or other demographic.  A good way to think of playing the lottery is that you are picking a handful of numbers out of a pool of a HUNDRED MILLION numbers.  That is your number.

I agree. A random system will play out the odds. Mathematics is a rock in this respect. Non-random lotteries (i.e. rigged systems and faulty) can be predicted. People who claim life is easy, lunch is free and money falls from the sky in plenty are selling something. Please, don't be a sucker, have fun and play wisely.

whodeani's avatarwhodeani

So they played the same numbers four times. There was a guy from Wisconsin a while back that did the same thing. I don't understand this. They should know how the payouts work for Supercash. Supercash will payout up to 20 winning tickets!!!!! That's $7,000,000. You get two plays for a buck. So these people spent $2. If you feel that strongly about a set of numbers to play them multiple times, why not just splurge and spend $8 more and buy the maximum of 20 tickets to multiply the amount of your winnings by a factor of five while spending only a few more bucks to do it. Congrats to them but understand how these games work people.

GASMETERGUY

Quote: Originally posted by GASMETERGUY on Aug 22, 2008

Who says there is no system!!!!  This couple has one.  So predicting the lotto is possible after all!

More power to them!!!!

Let me get this straight.  He said he has a formula.  She says they have been playing the same numbers for years.  Which one is it?

Oh, I know now!  Her numbers range from 1 to 39.

I tend to believe him more than her solely because I want to believe him. 

 As to a way he can make money with a system, he uses his "formula" to find 7 numbers that have a good chance of being drawn.  These 7 numbers will translate into 21 possible combinations (lines, for those of you old-timers).  If I remember correctly, there will be at a minimum 4 combinations out of the 21 with three or more numbers.  Tennessee pays approximately $9 for three numbers.

9 x 4 = 28

Now take your five plays slips and travel around, playing all 21 at different stores in the area.  The more stores, the better.  After the draw, go back to those stores and collect.  He will stay under the Lotto and IRS radar.

Sadly, all that is required to bring his world crashing down is to be wrong three times in a row.  LOL.

justxploring's avatarjustxploring

They are doing their best to capitalize on this win too.  It's now the headliner on Yahoo News.   It says something like "couple has formula to win lottery" and that "they won the lottery 4 times" but they only won once!  I think the person who won $50 million or $100 million using birthdays or buying a QP is better off, but I'll take any win.   I think it's great when anyone wins, but I wouldn't want my name all over the internet.  Not that $1.4 million isn't a nice prize, but I would want my privacy. 

guesser's avatarguesser

Quote: Originally posted by dejack03 on Aug 23, 2008

Brad Duke claimed to use a numbering system that had won him a couple hundred dollars (and 85 million) in the Powerball.

Bull.

Sorry guys but it's mathmatically impossible.  ONE:  If such a formula existed, it would have been discovered easily by now.  There is no forumla.  A formula would defeat the entire purpose of the lottery.  TWO:  Lotteries employ a certain range of possibilities, played over a certain population, which USUALLY results in a win a couple of draws later.  MILLIONS of people play random and chosen numbers.  The numbers are drawn RANDOMLY hence...no formula can determine an outcome.  Each player has their own idiosyncrasies; one might say they have a formula, or one might claim they have magic powers, another may claim it's complete luck...maybe even another claims their particular god had something to do with it.  For some reason, most people get behind the "formula" myth.  I think it's the most "credible" myth because it's quasimathmatical and doesn't exclude people by religion or other demographic.  A good way to think of playing the lottery is that you are picking a handful of numbers out of a pool of a HUNDRED MILLION numbers.  That is your number.

Hey Jack - I think you are mistaken.

I have a Powerball 'formula' - and I bet most of us on here do as well, for whatever game they play.

This does not mean our 'formula' is going to pick the correct numbers for us, for example: my 'formula' helps me decide how to configure distinct pools of numbers to choose from, and it also eliminate a bunch of numbers based on other criteria. None of this means I'm going to choose the correct numbers, I still think it takes a lot of luck for things to fall into place in order to win.

Look at the three numbers that have gone on the longest without being hit - currently this is 38, 27 and 30. What are the odds two or all three of them will hit next ?  Not likely.  If you want to play one, which one do you play ?   You research it and devise a 'formula', and you will either get lucky - or not. Eventually you will.   BUT even if you did in this respect, that's only one number you have nailed, you need more.

I have hit 4x5 in PB eleven times, and I have missed out on two 5x5's - both of those I had all the correct numbers in my pools, in both of these cases I had four numbers to choose from, the number that hit was in that pool, but I chose the wrong one.  So why didn't I wheel it, you ask ?  Because I have X numbers in four different pools - I can't wheel everything.

I keep trying to tell folks - you can do more good in devising a system to ELIMINATE numbers to choose from possibly much much better than trying to devise a system to pick the winners.  This may not make any sense to some, but it's something I fully understand.

crystaltips's avatarcrystaltips

I hope they get their patent on their 'formula' I would certainly buy it.Wink

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