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Lottery ticket has all the numbers, but 7 seconds late

Lottery ticket has all the numbers, but 7 seconds late

Posted: 10/8/2008 6:54:49 PM

Canada Super 7

Joel Ifergan came within seven seconds of becoming a multi-millionaire, and he's ready to go to court to claim his windfall.

Mr. Ifergan bought a lottery ticket one night at 8:59 p.m., but Loto-Québec's computers processed and printed it only after the draw's deadline at 9 p.m.

It turned out to be a winning ticket — but it popped out of the machine too late. Now, Mr. Ifergan is suing Quebec's behemoth lottery corporation for $13.5 million, saying that the machine's time lag cost him his share of the $27 million prize.

"I played by their rules. I purchased a ticket prior to 9 p.m. It's not my fault their technology is slow," Mr. Ifergan said yesterday.

Mr. Ifergan's saga began one night in May when he drove to the Dairy Queen near his home in suburban Dollard-des-Ormeaux for an ice cream. Realizing there was a Super 7 grand prize draw that night, he went into a convenience store in the strip mall to try his luck.

It was 8:59 p.m., and ticket sales for the draw continued until 9 p.m.

He asked storeowner Mehernosh Iranpur if he still had time to buy tickets. Mr. Iranpur checked the clock on his Loto-Québec terminal. It read 8:59 p.m.

Mr. Iranpur entered two ticket requests into the terminal.

"I punched twice, before 9 p.m.," Mr. Iranpur recalled yesterday in an interview. "The first ticket came out. I said, 'It's still 8:59, it's still 8:59!' "

The second ticket, however, didn't come out until seven seconds after 9 p.m., making it eligible for the next draw.

The next morning, Mr. Ifergan was drinking his coffee at home and checked the lottery numbers in the newspaper. He was elated for a few seconds when he realized he held a winning combination of seven numbers for the previous night's draw.

But the numbers were on the second ticket — the one issued after 9 p.m.

"I was in shock, in total shock," he said. "I couldn't believe it. I started to scream."

Someone else also held the winning numbers and was awarded the entire $27 million prize. Mr. Ifergan says he's owed half of it, so he's claiming $13.5 million in his suit.

According to Mr. Ifergan's statement of claim filed in Quebec Superior Court, Loto-Québec technicians admitted to a delay of eight to 10 seconds between the request of a lottery ticket and the processing time in Loto-Québec's central computer.

The technicians, speaking to Mr. Ifergan and his lawyer, also said that because of the large jackpot prize on May 23, the night Mr. Ifergan bought his ticket, strong demand probably pushed the processing delay to 10 seconds, the claim states.

Loto-Québec's website says the deadline for Super 7 wagers is Friday at 9 p.m., and so do ads in stores that sell lottery tickets, the lawsuit says. Loto-Québec doesn't advertise the requirement that a Super 7 lottery ticket be purchased and processed by the corporation's central computer by the 9 p.m. deadline, it adds.

Mr. Ifergan's lawyer, Robert Pancer, says he could find no precedent for this case, which he says rests on the issue of responsibility.

"The consumer is not responsible for the delays relating to the printing of the ticket," he said. "He [Mr. Ifergan] acquired the ticket prior to the 9 p.m. deadline. It's just crazy."

Loto-Québec refused to comment on the case because it is before the courts.

But the dispute drew plenty of comments on call-in shows. Many were unsympathetic.

"I find it reflects two traits you find in people nowadays — to do everything at the last minute, and to blame others for our faults," a woman named Sabrina wrote on the website of one TV call-in show.

"It's not the machine that was slow," wrote a woman named Marie-Pier, "it was him!"

Mr. Ifergan said he already had some tickets for the Super 7 draw, and the ones from Mr. Iranpur's store were simply bought on an impulse because he happened to park in front of the convenience store.

"This is a David and Goliath case," the father of two said of his fight against the lottery corporation. "They have limitless amounts of money. And they have too much to lose to admit they have a glitch in their system."

He admitted that with the economy in turmoil, the cash "would look very nice in my bank account." All that's in the bank for now, however, is the disputed ticket — in a safety deposit box.

Source: CTV

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Posted: October 8, 2008, 7:08 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

This (surprise, surprise) looks like naked greed to me.

 

First - most lotteries prevent this very thing (and also attempts at past posting) by using draw breaks. I'm amazed that Lotto Quebec (at least according to the article) doesn't have them.

 

8-10 seconds is a long, long transaction time. Most lotteries require systems to print the ticket in under 4 seconds from "Send" to "Cut". A system that can't support the meager volume Lotto Quebec was generating is certainly not "Canada Class", let alone "world-class".

 

I know Canada likes to give their provinces a lot of autonomy. However there are cases on point in Canada that clearly say that what the system recorded is what lotteries have to pay. If it recorded the wager as occuring after the end of wagering for that draw, its for the next one.

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Posted: October 8, 2008, 7:09 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Wow.  If I were that guy I would be a little PO'ed as well.  Losing a winning ticket or having it invalidated would be rough.   I try and buy my tickets early to avoid lines and problems.  For some reason if I try and buy tickets close to the cut off the machines are slower, customers in front of me are very slow, or someone is trying to pay for a case of beer with a pocket full of change!!  This is why I don't like buying at Convience Stores but I like buying at small stores that are owned by a single individual.


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Posted: October 8, 2008, 7:11 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

I once read a sign in a deli, right at the counter were people order. It read... I'm paraphrasing...."Your inability to make a decision does not constitute an emergency on my part".

This guy is an idiot. He's not gonna win the case.

The deadline is whatever time the machine spits the ticket out. Period. The court will find in favor of the officials at the lottery because of some law that'll probably state a reasonable time lag for a computer of that nature making that many calculations in an overload of people buying tix.

 

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Posted: October 8, 2008, 8:56 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Does this lottery's quick pick generator (I'm guessing the two tickets purchased were QP's, based on what I'm reading here) allow or disallow picking an already chosen combo? If the latter there's no way he could have had those numbers if the bet came in on time, since the story said there was already a winning combo.

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Posted: October 8, 2008, 9:23 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Don't wait until the last possible minute to buy your lottery tickets.

 

Theres an old saying that goes like this:If you snooze,you lose.

He lost.His own fault.

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Posted: October 8, 2008, 10:00 pm - IP Logged Bottom Top

Here in my state (a Powerball state), our lottery terminals won't sell/print tickets from 8:30pm to 8:40pm on the night of a draw. Not sure if this is common for other Powerball states or Megamillions...but it seems like a good way to avoid this type of thing happening.

I really feel for the guy...I can't imagine him getting anything out of this except a lifetime of regret at what could have been. That being said...waiting until the last minute is just asking for trouble.

Regardless of the outcome, it's a good lesson for all of us here.

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Posted: October 9, 2008, 12:31 am - IP Logged Bottom Top

It's sad that the guy lost out on the jackpot, but he shouldn't have waited till the last minute to get his tickets.

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Posted: October 9, 2008, 1:16 am - IP Logged Bottom Top

Crazy guy. Reminds me of my friend who buys it few mins before its over...there's no thrill in that, only high stress, and anxiety.

Just hope there isn't people like him on the streets driving...waiting last min and cuts through people, drifting corners, speeding through risking his and other's lives so he can be fashionablely late. Haha

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Posted: October 9, 2008, 1:26 am - IP Logged Bottom Top

You folks clearly DO NOT get it.

 

RNG's are not, are usually ARE NOt, the issue.


Central systems have no link to the numbers assigned at the point of purchase. The terminal simply makes sure that the numbers on "Play A" don't duplicate "all the numbers on Play B" - that's it!

 

Guess what kids - the system worked the way it was supposed to. Do you want a square chance to win all of your prize? Or do you want someone to be able to say - "I think I should have 1/2 of that jackpot"???. People like this have to be weeded out - period.