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Costa Rica court rejects washed lottery ticket
London United Kingdom Member #59058 February 20, 2008 39 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 16, 2008, 5:25 pm - IP Logged |
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It's his own fault. Vital information will have been washed away from the ticket so the ticket was probably badly defaced.
Next time, do as I do and buy online lol. Feel sorry for him but he should have been more careful. "Depend on the rabbit's foot if you will, but remember it didn't work for the rabbit." - R. E. Shay.
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United States Member #4194 March 23, 2004 664 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 16, 2008, 6:50 pm - IP Logged |
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The problem is anyone can that they lost the ticket in the wash. Who do you believe?
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Idaho United States Member #56982 November 21, 2007 1866 Posts Online
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| Posted: October 16, 2008, 7:12 pm - IP Logged |
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The problem is anyone can that they lost the ticket in the wash. Who do you believe? Exactly, Anyone can claim they washed their ticket in the washing machine and apparently, quite a few have made that claim. Can it happen? Sure. I believe some people are telling the truth, but if one wants to avoid losing out on a lot of money, people need to start taking better care of their tickets. Don't just shove your tickets in your pockets or whatever. Put them in a safe place. You never know when one of those slips of paper will be worth thousands or millions of dollars. Treat your tickets like they could be worth millions. It's not that hard.
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NY United States Member #24178 October 16, 2005 1471 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 19, 2008, 1:29 am - IP Logged |
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Shame on the Costa Rica Lottery and Court.
In my opinion the lottery owes all players a good faith attempt to verify claims of potential winners.
The lottery knows exactly how many jackpots, 1st, 2nd, 3rd place prizes it should pay out. They can wait until the redeem date had passed and see how many of the questioned prizes remain unclaimed.
Of couse this requires a good faith attempt on the customer's part to bring their claim to the lottery right away, not wait until there are only a few days left and the lottery has already announced a plum prize is still hanging out there unclaimed.
A little common sense goes a long way.
BobP
The article doesn't even come close to offering enough information to suggest that it would have been reasonable to pay the claim. OTOH, it does include two statements indicating that at least part of the ticket is either missing completely, or at least illegible. Knowing that a winning ticket was sold but unclaimed supports the claim, but does absolutely nothing to prove it.
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Charlotte, NC United States Member #59192 February 23, 2008 2178 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 19, 2008, 9:35 pm - IP Logged |
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I've washed two winning scratchers before by mistake. Best believe that if I knew they were winners they would have never made it to the washer though!!!!
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United States Member #381 June 5, 2002 2006 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 21, 2008, 3:41 pm - IP Logged |
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The article doesn't even come close to offering enough information to suggest that it would have been reasonable to pay the claim. OTOH, it does include two statements indicating that at least part of the ticket is either missing completely, or at least illegible. Knowing that a winning ticket was sold but unclaimed supports the claim, but does absolutely nothing to prove it. All I said was a good faith attempt to verify the claim was needed by the lottery and court. Having one claiment and one unclaimed prize goes a long way toward putting that attempt together.
Like you, I would like more details to base a judgement on. If the guy produced a year's worth of past tickets playing the same combination, that would help. Though maybe he forgot to play that week and washed some old ticket into an illegible lump to make a false claim, but he would also have to count on an unclaimed prize being there at the end.
If you've ever read about how the U.S. Treasury deals with damaged money claims, there is a lot a lab can do to reconstruct damaged paper in support of a claim.
I'm not saying the lottery and court should have paid the claim. I'm saying I'd like to see a good faith effort on their part to find a way to pay rather than a way not to pay, or I'd like to know why paying would be totally unreasonable.
I'd especially like to know if there was one or more unclaimed prize from that prize tier and when he tried to submit the claim. Without that the article isn't complete.
BobP
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mid-Ohio United States Member #9 March 24, 2001 9376 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 21, 2008, 5:47 pm - IP Logged |
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You might be surprised at the number of claims that are made once a ticket goes unclaimed for a while. A good faith effort by the lottery to find a way to pay out the prize could be made even more complicated by several arguable claims being made.
Even when tickets have been turn in by persons making a claim, arguable claims for the prizes have been made by others that the ticket was stolen or found after they lost it.
In the end it's just easier for lotteries and courts to resort to the simply rule "no winning ticket, no pay out". * Trying is the first step toward failure *
homer J. Simpson
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NY United States Member #24178 October 16, 2005 1471 Posts Offline
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| Posted: October 22, 2008, 12:56 am - IP Logged |
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"a good faith attempt to verify the claim was needed by the lottery and court"
You're confused about the role of the court. Their job is to rule on the law, which seems to say that the lottery isn't required to pay *this* claim.
"I'd like to see a good faith effort on their part to find a way to pay rather than a way not to pay"
I agree that the lottery should make a good faith effort, but there's nothing to indicate that they did or didn't do exactly that. In any case, if a claimant can't produce a winning ticket that's in good shape the onus is on them, not the lottery, to support the case for payment. The lottery already has a way to pay: they issue you a ticket to prove your wager. If you lose or damage the ticket the lottery shouldn't have to go to great lengths to find an alternate way to pay you.
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