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Colorado Lottery investigates 21-time prize winner

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Posted: January 10, 2009, 12:10 am - IP Logged

Bob27 the guy is playing a 5/32 game.

Check this out,

http://www.coloradolottery.com/index.cfm/ID/35/Past-Winners/

I think he's been spreading the wealth Krupa is his last name.

Thanks for the link. Lots of Krupa's winning! lol. He must have a great system.

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Posted: January 10, 2009, 11:01 am - IP Logged

Looking through that link I noticed a few people with multiple wins.

I hope Mr. Krupa and his family and friends remember to claim their wins on their Federal taxes, or the next story that we will be reading is how the Grand Jury is investigating his winnings and why the fed is not  getting it's cut.

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Posted: January 10, 2009, 1:53 pm - IP Logged

Looking through that link I noticed a few people with multiple wins.

I hope Mr. Krupa and his family and friends remember to claim their wins on their Federal taxes, or the next story that we will be reading is how the Grand Jury is investigating his winnings and why the fed is not  getting it's cut.

11/29/08  Janina Krupa    Brighton    $20,000 
11/29/08  Janina Krupa    Brighton    $20,000 
11/26/08  Aneta Krupa     Brighton    $20,000   
11/8/08   Tadeusz Krupa   Brighton    $20,000   
11/8/08   Aneta Krupa     Brighton    $20,000
2/16/08   Tadeusz Krupa   Brighton    $20,000
12/14/07  Tadeusz Krupa   Brighton    $20,000
4/6/07    Tadeusz Krupa   Maspeth     $20,000

If Colorado lottery rules are similar to other states then they withheld 25% of any prizes over $5,000 for federal taxes.

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11/29/08  Janina Krupa    Brighton    $20,000 
11/29/08  Janina Krupa    Brighton    $20,000 
11/26/08  Aneta Krupa     Brighton    $20,000   
11/8/08   Tadeusz Krupa   Brighton    $20,000   
11/8/08   Aneta Krupa     Brighton    $20,000
2/16/08   Tadeusz Krupa   Brighton    $20,000
12/14/07  Tadeusz Krupa   Brighton    $20,000
4/6/07    Tadeusz Krupa   Maspeth     $20,000

If Colorado lottery rules are similar to other states then they withheld 25% of any prizes over $5,000 for federal taxes.

True, but when they file their income taxes, are they claiming their wins. I hope so. I once sat on a grand jury case similar to this.

The other thing that may get him in trouble is that he claims to have an import/export business which the investergaters saw very little signs of.

Having been in the business many years ago, I know that you can accumulate loads of paper work...bills of lading...bills of goods...etc.

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True, but when they file their income taxes, are they claiming their wins. I hope so. I once sat on a grand jury case similar to this.

The other thing that may get him in trouble is that he claims to have an import/export business which the investergaters saw very little signs of.

Having been in the business many years ago, I know that you can accumulate loads of paper work...bills of lading...bills of goods...etc.

Lottery officials have no authority over his business,  this is the exact problem starting to happen in the USA  we were talking about earlier.  I'm sure everybody out there is perfectly transparent and pays all their stuff on time and completely.  This busy body friggen mentality by govt. and private citizens is going to start serious problems.  This crap is reminiscent of East Germany and the commies being in everybodys'  $h1t.   This guy left Poland to get away from this.  I would get 12 lawyers and sue the hell out of anybody and everybody that has mentioned any of his personal business,  I don't get why peoples' names are published to begin with. I was actually surprised when I ran into that link with names on it.  I hope he sues big time.

Of course they are claiming their income from winnings that is what W-2Gs are for, you don't claim it, you get audited.  What do you care about him paying taxes?  It is none of our business,  people should worry more about drug dealers and porn merchants paying their taxes, than an immigrant from Poland.  This has got to end.

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Posted: January 10, 2009, 6:39 pm - IP Logged

Lottery officials have no authority over his business,  this is the exact problem starting to happen in the USA  we were talking about earlier.  I'm sure everybody out there is perfectly transparent and pays all their stuff on time and completely.  This busy body friggen mentality by govt. and private citizens is going to start serious problems.  This crap is reminiscent of East Germany and the commies being in everybodys'  $h1t.   This guy left Poland to get away from this.  I would get 12 lawyers and sue the hell out of anybody and everybody that has mentioned any of his personal business,  I don't get why peoples' names are published to begin with. I was actually surprised when I ran into that link with names on it.  I hope he sues big time.

Of course they are claiming their income from winnings that is what W-2Gs are for, you don't claim it, you get audited.  What do you care about him paying taxes?  It is none of our business,  people should worry more about drug dealers and porn merchants paying their taxes, than an immigrant from Poland.  This has got to end.

Live and let live.

You don't get it Jarasan, you file the W-2G but you also have to declare it on your tax returns. Been there, done it.

And believe me, two years later, the Maryland State lottery continues to review winners information. I received a letter asking for confirmation of information.

Last, I'm happy that he won. The story just gives off some alarms that he and his benefactors should be alerted to.

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Can a lottery player be barred (as in playing the state lottery) after winning consistantly as in the case of the Colorado's 21-time prize winner?

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You don't get it Jarasan, you file the W-2G but you also have to declare it on your tax returns. Been there, done it.

And believe me, two years later, the Maryland State lottery continues to review winners information. I received a letter asking for confirmation of information.

Last, I'm happy that he won. The story just gives off some alarms that he and his benefactors should be alerted to.

Yeah I do get it, of course you have to declare it, it is income like the W-2 your employer gives you.  That is not my point though.  Why in the hades do you concern yourself with his import/export business? It has nothing to do with his hitting the 20K a lot.  JMO.

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Posted: January 10, 2009, 9:56 pm - IP Logged

11/29/08  Janina Krupa    Brighton    $20,000 
11/29/08  Janina Krupa    Brighton    $20,000 
11/26/08  Aneta Krupa     Brighton    $20,000   
11/8/08   Tadeusz Krupa   Brighton    $20,000   
11/8/08   Aneta Krupa     Brighton    $20,000
2/16/08   Tadeusz Krupa   Brighton    $20,000
12/14/07  Tadeusz Krupa   Brighton    $20,000
4/6/07    Tadeusz Krupa   Maspeth     $20,000

If Colorado lottery rules are similar to other states then they withheld 25% of any prizes over $5,000 for federal taxes.

From the looks of the winners list, what ever system the Krupa family is using, it includes duplications.  I've heard of pick5 and smaller games players who are so sure of their picks, they will play the same combinations several times but they have to be aware not to exceed the payout limits if they win or else they will have spent extra money and gained little.

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Yeah I do get it, of course you have to declare it, it is income like the W-2 your employer gives you.  That is not my point though.  Why in the hades do you concern yourself with his import/export business? It has nothing to do with his hitting the 20K a lot.  JMO.

It's not me Jarasan, it's the FEDS.

The story brings two facts to light.

1) He's winning alot of money (which I hope he's claiming)

2) He has a business that he may be claiming on his income tax returns that may or may not exist.

If he gives them any reason to dove into his finances, let's say, because his winning are public knowledge and his tax returns don't totally reflect all of the monies, Then the Feds will surely pick him apart, starting with the lottery wins then the business.

The story makes it sound like the business doesn"t exist. Claiming a deductible on a home office that doesn't exist is TAX FRAUD.

I hope that none of this is true.

All I'm saying is, don't give the Feds any reason to dove into your private or public life. It could be a nightmare.

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What is your obsession with this?

There is absolutely zero basis to think he may not be reporting the prizes, except that we all know that some people don't report some of their income. Similar reasoning means I can safely conclude that you may be a serial killer and have a penchant for animal abuse and porn. FWIW, it's not any public information that would get the IRS involved, it's the notification by the lottery about all of the winnings (for everybody, not just this guy) that are big enough to require withholding. The IRS knows he won the money, and their computer systems mean they would know if his tax return didn't match the record of the winnings.

As for his business, the article  says exactly what it says, which is different than informing us of anything useful. There's "little evidence" of the business. Whoop de freaking do. It clearly says he has a computer, and it's a safe bet that he's got at least one phone. What were you expecting? A door that says "manager" next to a magical door that says "Poland" and a 50,000 square foot warehouse in the basement? With a cell phone and a laptop this guy could potentially be responsible for importing a billion dollars worth of goods every year, and his "office" would weigh 5 pounds.

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What is your obsession with this?

There is absolutely zero basis to think he may not be reporting the prizes, except that we all know that some people don't report some of their income. Similar reasoning means I can safely conclude that you may be a serial killer and have a penchant for animal abuse and porn. FWIW, it's not any public information that would get the IRS involved, it's the notification by the lottery about all of the winnings (for everybody, not just this guy) that are big enough to require withholding. The IRS knows he won the money, and their computer systems mean they would know if his tax return didn't match the record of the winnings.

As for his business, the article  says exactly what it says, which is different than informing us of anything useful. There's "little evidence" of the business. Whoop de freaking do. It clearly says he has a computer, and it's a safe bet that he's got at least one phone. What were you expecting? A door that says "manager" next to a magical door that says "Poland" and a 50,000 square foot warehouse in the basement? With a cell phone and a laptop this guy could potentially be responsible for importing a billion dollars worth of goods every year, and his "office" would weigh 5 pounds.

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My occupation is concerned with saving lives.

As I mentioned before, I spent 18 months on a grand jury. One of the cases that we spent many weeks on happened to be similar. The mistake that the individual  made, being that he is giving his tickets to others for what ever reason does send up a red flag to the Feds. People who had received winning ticckets from that individal were brought before us to tell their story about how and why they received the winning tickets.

The Febs actually tracked our person down by the code bar on the tickets. It tracks where the tickets are brought and cashed in.

When the Gov. decided to drop the lottery portion of the investugation, we were informed that his business activities were being investigated and would be brought into another grand jury if they found any tax evasion there.

And...chill out, I'm not obsessed. Just responding to responses made to me.

Thanks for your comments.

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From the looks of the winners list, what ever system the Krupa family is using, it includes duplications.  I've heard of pick5 and smaller games players who are so sure of their picks, they will play the same combinations several times but they have to be aware not to exceed the payout limits if they win or else they will have spent extra money and gained little.

There is guy here in D.C. that played six identical lines on a game called Quick Cash a few years ago and hit 6 for 6 (6 X $250,000) with fortune cookie numbers, they changed the game after that.  Now it is called D.C. Daily Six and they changed the matrix, cost, and rules after that.

Moral of the story:

The house doesn't like to lose. 

Even though they smacked the guy on fed and state  taxes,  the D.C. Lottery board  made it more unlikely that would never happen again.  D.C. has computerized draws,  wink, wink, nod, nod.  F rating.

The ridiculous AP news service thinks D.C. is a state!  The D.C. govt makes the Venezuelans, Rod Blago, and the Noriegas look like amateurs!

Other states and the feds aren't far behind.

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Posted: January 11, 2009, 11:37 am - IP Logged

I would not take any time off from playing,when you are on a roll,keep on rolling on.once you stop,your mind slows down from thinking..................................[rock]

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I think the guy has a real  luck so often hiting the lottery, but no doubt that he spends a lots of money ,may be even more that he gets back...ANYWAY HIS OWN SYSTEM WORKS...                   GOOD LUCK TADEUSZ   KRUPA!!!

 
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