All times shown are Eastern Time (GMT-5:00) | Home -> Forums -> Lottery News -> Tennessee may cap lottery winnings at $600 for poor Tennessee may cap lottery winnings at $600 for poorPrevious TopicNext TopicUnited States Member #66483 October 11, 2008 135 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 8, 2009, 6:47 pm - IP Logged | |
with HaveABall...in fact, I'll take the Powerball plus 5 matching numbers tonight Alex for $100! (If you're not a fan of Tyler Perry's movies, you won't get it )
Thinking objectively about this, it makes total sense what this congressman is proposing. But in another view, I find it somewhat "Unamerican, and somewhat downright socialist, to cap the profit potential in our free enterprise system (yes that is occurring, but then again right now those companies subject to earnings caps are LOSING money...once they right the ship and pay back the government...let the good times continue to roll for those CEOs...though I do feel that they are jumping ship with many people's 401ks in tow as their job is to lead their respective companies to profitability...those who do the opposite should take the honorable stance that any ship captain or military general (back in the old days) would do and that is go down fighting...it seems they do the opposite now...they bail out with a load of loot and watch the doomed suckers in the plane that just ran out of fuel and no other parachutes go down in flames while they live...to either see another day or run off to play golf and travel the world in first class style!) Yeah I know that was one hell of a . But getting back on point... a more American way would be to require those winning over $20,000 (as HaveABall stated) to pay back any assistance they received. In this way, a person winning such a windfall would not just view it as a time to go out and blow it (though many still will). Instead, now that person could use part of it to put themselves through an accredited degree program in order to land a better paying job. Or to relocate to somewhere where jobs are available in their current skill and occupation. Or start up a small business they had outlined would take, say $5,000 to start. All of those things would likely lead to that person permanently removing themselves from taxpayer assisted programs. But to cap their winnings at $600 when they may have had the winning ticket for a state lottery or, God forbid, the Powerball would guarantee that person would REMAIN on taxpayer assisted programs for many years to come. Not a smart move in my opinion. Sure I know that not everyone will do any of the three things I mentioned above, but then again, even those well educated make mistakes too! Comeon Powerball...I am not receiving gubment handouts so let me win Powerball TONIGHT! TO-NIGHT everything's gonna be AL-RIGHT! This is my chance to...POWERBALL! "I'll take the Powerball plus 5 matching numbers tonight Alex for $100! (If you're not a fan of Tyler Perry's movies, you won't get it )"....... Hi OldSchoolPa! I love that!......and I'm a big TP fan too! | | |
MI United States Member #55299 August 31, 2007 866 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 8, 2009, 7:00 pm - IP Logged | |
I think some here apparently think that all Welfare/Food stamp recipients are deadbeats who are too lazy to get a job despite the fact there are many single, tax paying parents out there who have children and do in fact work, sometimes more than one job and still need assistance be it food stamps or Medi-cade. The real problem IS those who are just comfortable suckling at the government teat or actually have kids so they can get more money and continue to receive it or flat out abuse the system but to group all of them together is total ignorance. That said, the welfare system needs another major overhaul (though I would prefer elimination if done properly) but our government is too incompetent to do it properly and besides our wonderful politicians spend our tax dollars on worse things, such as trillions of dollars in bailouts that won't work and never have worked in the past.
If someone is on government assistance, spends a dollar and hits a jackpot then by all means, they should pay it back but they sure as hell SHOULD get the remaining amount, not just a measly $600, that's just screwed up and flat out criminal. You can't predict random. | | |
Knoxville, Tn. United States Member #70138 January 13, 2009 299 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 8, 2009, 7:00 pm - IP Logged | |
This Campfield guy is such a jerk he has rental property in Knoxville that is slum housing and won't fix the problems so some college kids had to take him to court to get the stuff fixed. Stay out of peoples business Campfield and fix your slum housing!!!!!! | | |
Massachusetts United States Member #37842 April 14, 2006 368 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 8, 2009, 7:19 pm - IP Logged | |
Tennessee is just going to hell. Who are they to discourage people from engaging in a perfectly legal game? This is just communism in disguise. As long as people on welfare do not go asking for extra money before they are eligible for more they have the right to do whatever they wish with it. | | |
United States Member #53817 July 4, 2007 2401 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 8, 2009, 7:28 pm - IP Logged | |
Tennessee is just going to hell. Who are they to discourage people from engaging in a perfectly legal game? This is just communism in disguise. As long as people on welfare do not go asking for extra money before they are eligible for more they have the right to do whatever they wish with it. Real communism has never been tried on a large scale... that was all fascism/oligarchy, but I've had a lot of fun on small comunes where everyone considers each other equal. Very peaceful... happy times. "Here comes the sun, and I say, it's alright." The Beatles "But if we really say it, the radio won't play it." Peter Paul and Mary | | |
Clarksville United States Member #489 July 15, 2002 13552 Posts Online | | Posted: April 8, 2009, 7:29 pm - IP Logged | |
Check out these requirements for welfare in Tn. They are mind boggling! Program Description Families First is Tennessee's welfare reform plan that replaced the Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) program. The temporary cash assistance program emphasizes work, training, and personal responsibility. As part of the Families First program, each participant must agree to follow a Personal Responsibility Plan (PRP). Unless a participant is exempt from the work requirement, he/she must also agree to develop, follow, and complete a work plan. The work plan is based on the individual's needs and skills. General Program Requirements In order to qualify for this benefit program, you must be a resident of Tennessee, under 19 years of age, not covered by health insurance (including Medicaid), a US national, citizen, legal alien, or permanent resident, or pregnant, and you must have an annual household income before taxes of less than $36,425 if two people live in the household; $45,775 if three people live in the household; $55,125 if four people live in the household; $64,475 if five people live in the household; $73,825 if six people live in the household; $83,175 if seven people live in the household; $92,525 if eight people live in the household; and $101,875 if more than eight people live in the household. For larger households, add $9,350 for each additional person in the home. Depending on your income level, you may have to pay a premium for coverage. Please see this state's program information for details. It takes Everyone's input to HIT the number..all are equally important. | | |
United States Member #53817 July 4, 2007 2401 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 8, 2009, 7:45 pm - IP Logged | |
I've fallen under the limit for welfare for the past year or so but I won't take it. I seriously couldn't take the stink of it. This fascist system is out of control. I'll live or die a free man. "Here comes the sun, and I say, it's alright." The Beatles "But if we really say it, the radio won't play it." Peter Paul and Mary | | |
Clarksville United States Member #489 July 15, 2002 13552 Posts Online | | Posted: April 8, 2009, 7:49 pm - IP Logged | |
With limits like that almost half the people here are qualified for welfare. But, I don't see how they have those numbers and they actually do not give much assistance to the poor. Maybe those are the numbers for the "rich" poor. You know, the ones who lost their money in the stock market. It takes Everyone's input to HIT the number..all are equally important. | | |
grand rapids mi United States Member #69214 December 28, 2008 250 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 8, 2009, 9:50 pm - IP Logged | |
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Marquette, MI United States Member #20869 August 20, 2005 312 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 8, 2009, 11:18 pm - IP Logged | |
I wonder what kind of waste, fraud, abuse and corruption The Tennessee Legislature is up to when they have to resort to diversionary tactics like this to get the voters to fight amongst themselves while ignoring what is going on in Tennessee government. Perhaps I am on the wrong track but look at how effective this was at getting people to fight amongst themselves while ignoring the Tenn government. I'm glad I don't live in Tennessee but I am sure something else is probably going on up here too. You did not enter all of the required information: Message | | |
United States Member #26687 November 16, 2005 302 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 8, 2009, 11:58 pm - IP Logged | |
People who win the lotto and are on welfare should pay back what they got from the Gov't but NOT everything they win! The state seems to love to keep poor folks down and to make more people poorer. How does this help anyone? Say someone wins 100 grand and the state gives 600 to the winner. Do you think the state will use the money wisely? NO it will be squandered like all tax money. Huge taxes on people who make wealth (earned or won) doesn't help poor people only makes more people poor. If spreading the wealth and huge taxes works then why aren't Cuba, /N.Korea, and Venezula Socialist paradises? Because socialism/Communism only helps a small minority gain power and NEVER spreads wealth only MISERY. The hatred of people that earned money or won it is irrational. How does it help you in your daily life if the Gov't taxed Millionaires 90% or more? NONE! Only now some people can feel they GOT BACK at the "Evil" rich people. Rich people seem to be targets more than ever, if you win Powerball or MegaMillions take the money and run!! Money=Freedom=Power to control your own life. If you have financial freedom the Gov't can't control/run your life. If you depend of the Gov't for a check or assistance they can also take it away. There is a quote from the bible that goes "The Rich rules over the poor, the borrower is servent to the lender". If the Gov't is free to decide who can get rich or poor we are all SLAVES of the state! Sorry for the ...... | | |
United States Member #54859 August 17, 2007 313 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 9, 2009, 12:54 am - IP Logged | |
I'm not pessimistic. I think people on welfare are lazy. My friend is a single father of 3 children and he has 2 part-time jobs; he's not on welfare and he's not lazy. I get low pay but I'm not dumb enough to have kids yet. I wait until I get a good steady job. When you buy Liquor, Cigarettes and Lottery on welfare money, you're defeating the purpose of welfare money. I was disgusted when I saw a mother today who yelled at her kids that she couldn't have a 99 cent candy bar and she hungry. Instead, the mother got more beer for herself. I'm completely disgusted by that. | | |
Bondi Junction Australia Member #57721 December 24, 2007 414 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 9, 2009, 5:44 am - IP Logged | |
Tennesseans can get around this by buying a subscription to the Massachusetts Lottery games. If corporations can get billions in welfare, even before the crises, what is wrong with the little guy getting a little, and it is very very little. Rep. Stacey Campfield should get her knickers in a twist about the big boys, or have campaign donors bought both sides? | | |
Buffalo United States Member #54866 August 17, 2007 223 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 9, 2009, 3:06 pm - IP Logged | |
I know a LOT of folks on welfare and they aren't driving SUV's anything else close to that. Most of them I know ride the bus or walk. They get a meager amount of cash from the state and the rest is made up in food stamps which DO NOT last for the whole month if they have over 2 children and heaven forbid if one of those children is a teenager.(eating machine). They shop (if at all) at the local goodwill, flea markets, etc. Their children are the ones who wear one outfit one week and the other outfit the next week rotating like this for the whole year. They are the ones who don't have coats during the winter or hardly ever get new shoes. I feel that this is a waste of my taxpayer dollars to propose legislation such as this. Everyone should know that if a person who is on public assistance wins, they have to pay back the state period. This legislation was proposed by someone who needs to get a life and find out what the state REALLY needs like more factories, jobs, industries and more quality education. These bozos on the hill aren't doing anything but trying to justify their positions with all of these assinine pieces of legislation that mean nothing and will go NO where! They are wasting our tax dollars!! your right ....more people need to speak out against the Bullying of low income people ; Lets Crash FOX news they hammer everything the poor do...while expressing love for big business and causing division here in America ....when banks steal and throw people out on the street we dont punish them hen they make over $$600 or 600 million ....people dont know when their being played @ were suckers for the hype ; lets beat up on the so called welfare reciepients while ; THE MEDICAL/HEALTH AND EDUCATION INDUSTRY USE 65 TRILLION DOLLARS OF TAX DOLLARS EVERY 5 YEARS LETS GET REAL ....OBAMA IS NOT PERFECT BUT HE HAS STARTED A FIRE IN AMERICA TO RE-INVENT THE WAY WE THINK AND THE PEOPLE NEED TO DECIDED JUST WHO THEY TRUST BEFORE WE ARE ALL LIVING IN THE PROJECTS | | |
Midlands, SC United States Member #70200 January 14, 2009 278 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 9, 2009, 8:11 pm - IP Logged | |
I'm considered the "working poor" with an addition to playing at least 1 quick pick twice a week. God forbid I should get laid off and have to get unemployment & welfare. If I do and continue to play my 2 dollars a week....and the government gives me 600 out of 20 million.....I WILL BE ON THE 6:00PM NEWS....and it won't be pretty!!!!! | | |
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