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Tennessee may cap lottery winnings at $600 for poor
In the anime Ghost in the Shell Panama Member #21312 August 29, 2005 2398 Posts Offline
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The one thing i don't understand is that any loonie in the senate or congress can pass a bill for this, yet, up to this day no lonie has propose a bill to create "minorities lottos" or "Specialized Private lottos"... Powerball & Scratchoffs are the movie Jeepers Creepers 2....
"Keno, is: "the demon who makes trophies of men" you can't see it, and it skins them"..in context from movie "Predator1"
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MI United States Member #55299 August 31, 2007 813 Posts Offline
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Don't most states already have it on the books that if a winner over a certain amount has taken government assistance that it would be paid back before they get the money? This just seems messed up if what they're proposing is just because someone has just recently gone onto welfare (let's say with only $2,000 being sent to them) or whatever and won a big jackpot that the state would get the entire jackpot? Then again, it's in the government's best interest to have people rely up on it and not be able to get away the welfare system. With odds like 1 in 175,711,536 how can I lose?!
You can't predict random.
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South Carolina United States Member #6 November 4, 2001 6935 Posts Offline
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Don't most states already have it on the books that if a winner over a certain amount has taken government assistance that it would be paid back before they get the money? This just seems messed up if what they're proposing is just because someone has just recently gone onto welfare (let's say with only $2,000 being sent to them) or whatever and won a big jackpot that the state would get the entire jackpot? Then again, it's in the government's best interest to have people rely up on it and not be able to get away the welfare system. If I remember correctly New York state does.
Will deduct a certain amount from your winning for assistance received. I do not know the full details.
We are starting to see a change in gov't policy from the fed level down to the state level. I wonder why. Freedom
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United States Member #54859 August 17, 2007 259 Posts Offline
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This is good stuff. I'm tired of people who are on welfare and food stamps. I saw a bumper sticker the other day: "Work Harder, Millions on Welfare Depend on You!"
I've seen people on welfare and food stamps have nicer clothes than me; have expensive suv's with 25 inch rims!!; all they buy is liquore and cigerettes. I think the US should eliminate welfare.
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In the anime Ghost in the Shell Panama Member #21312 August 29, 2005 2398 Posts Offline
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Isn't wellfare like an Insurance, you put in money so that whenever you are out of a job, you got something to fall on...wellfare does not last forever....
i find it funny how someone say that we should eliminate welfare and look in the SITUTATION THAT THE USA IS IN....I sometimes wonder if people double think the stuff they say or they just mention it to be part of a group... Powerball & Scratchoffs are the movie Jeepers Creepers 2....
"Keno, is: "the demon who makes trophies of men" you can't see it, and it skins them"..in context from movie "Predator1"
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United States Member #59008 February 18, 2008 710 Posts Offline
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This is good stuff. I'm tired of people who are on welfare and food stamps. I saw a bumper sticker the other day: "Work Harder, Millions on Welfare Depend on You!"
I've seen people on welfare and food stamps have nicer clothes than me; have expensive suv's with 25 inch rims!!; all they buy is liquore and cigerettes. I think the US should eliminate welfare. I don't have a problem with people who are down on their luck being on welfare.Anyone can can have a bad run of luck and find themselves on welfare.I DO have a problem with career welfare cheats,those folks who are 2nd & 3rd generation welfare recipiants.These people simply don't want to work and are content to lay around and collect a check and foodstamps from the government.I can't say that someone on welfare can afford to buy nice clothes and expensive suv's with 25 inch rims.They don't make anywhere near that kind of money on welfare.Some welfare recipiants might buy cigs & booze with their checks,but again,they don't make that kind of money on the welfare roles.I don't have a problem with a person on welfare buying an occasional lottery ticket,but I suspect that most would have a hard time finding an extra dollar to spend on the lottery without depriving their children of food & clothing.Sure,you'll find some that will ignore their children's needs but I think most believe that their children come first.If they do buy a winning lottery ticket I believe that they should repay the welfare system before collecting any winnings.If after repaying the system there is money left it should go to the winner.And I don't believe that welfare should be eliminated because there will always be people in need.I do think that there should be limits on how much help the welfare system can help you with.
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United States Member #6475 August 20, 2004 2403 Posts Offline
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The problem is it would never work. People would continue to play anyway and if they won they would get a trusted family member or friend (if there is such a thing with big money) to cash in the ticket. Problem solved. They can't tell where the real cash goes yet, but then again, that is why the government has been pushing so hard over the last couple of decades to go to a cashless society. That way they can track every move you make. Those credit cards and debit cards are not only for your convenience. 
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Atlanta, GA United States Member #1288 March 13, 2003 2632 Posts Offline
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Great point TigerAngel, the state should be paid back in the event of a large win. Think some states are doing that with delinquent child support, also prisoners repaying cost of incarceration.
However the underground economy is about 100 steps ahead any legislative posturing to pay back taxpayers. This proposal is a day late, dollar short, should have thought of it same time lottery was ratified by voters. HaveABall apologize for addressing you as TigerAngel, you have the same avatar. 
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MD United States Member #1735 June 18, 2003 5794 Posts Offline
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To qualify for welfare or food stamps you must be at or below a certain income level. This could mean anything from losing your job, be it laid off or fired, having a spouse leave you and leave you with kids to feed, a fire, or any number of calamity's.
You will be glad they have these programs should you for some reason fall on hard times.
This thread is about some government nutcase wanting people whom for whatever reason are on food stamps or a government programs not being able to collect on a lottery win of more than 600 dollar.
So does that mean if you are disabled collecting SSI and food stamps you can't play to win or of you are a Disabled American Veteran collecting disability income that you cant play and collect on a win of more than 600 bucks.
The people of Tennessee should be calling all their representatives and complain about this. No matter what every individual should be able to play the lottery if they are over the age of 18 regardless of their financial situation.
And no i don't think they should collect money from a food stamp or welfare program recipient whom might have won a large jackpot.
Child support, tickets, fines, money owed to the state etc is ok because that has been in place for a while in most states. Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!
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CITY OF FALLEN HERO'S, PENNSYLVANIA United States Member #8646 November 7, 2004 202 Posts Offline
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I agree with you Lee 100 percent .This is the best news I have heard today.
They need to stop using my tax dollars for their gambling needs, get off their lazy butts , go out and get a job
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Bellevue Kentucky United States Member #53817 July 4, 2007 2091 Posts Offline
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I agree with you Lee 100 percent .This is the best news I have heard today.
They need to stop using my tax dollars for their gambling needs, get off their lazy butts , go out and get a job I'm sorry but I'm a bit confused. Are you talking about the people on food stamps for whatever reason... or the banksters? "Those one track minds
That took you for a working boy
Kiss them goodbye
You shouldnt have to jump for joy." -- Tears For Fears
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United States Member #392 June 8, 2002 4750 Posts Online
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The one thing i don't understand is that any loonie in the senate or congress can pass a bill for this, yet, up to this day no lonie has propose a bill to create "minorities lottos" or "Specialized Private lottos"... Now your asking them to "Think", they are not able to do that, the robots in congress are not equipped to do that.
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United States Member #392 June 8, 2002 4750 Posts Online
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Don't most states already have it on the books that if a winner over a certain amount has taken government assistance that it would be paid back before they get the money? This just seems messed up if what they're proposing is just because someone has just recently gone onto welfare (let's say with only $2,000 being sent to them) or whatever and won a big jackpot that the state would get the entire jackpot? Then again, it's in the government's best interest to have people rely up on it and not be able to get away the welfare system. You hit the nail right on the head. Thank you for your comment.
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United States Member #392 June 8, 2002 4750 Posts Online
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If I remember correctly New York state does.
Will deduct a certain amount from your winning for assistance received. I do not know the full details.
We are starting to see a change in gov't policy from the fed level down to the state level. I wonder why. States are starting to go broke, that's why.
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United States Member #392 June 8, 2002 4750 Posts Online
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This is good stuff. I'm tired of people who are on welfare and food stamps. I saw a bumper sticker the other day: "Work Harder, Millions on Welfare Depend on You!"
I've seen people on welfare and food stamps have nicer clothes than me; have expensive suv's with 25 inch rims!!; all they buy is liquore and cigerettes. I think the US should eliminate welfare. Don't knock it, very soon you will be.
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