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Eastern Time (GMT-5:00) | Asset managers accused of fronting for real $254M Powerball winnerZeta Reticuli Star System United States Member #30849 January 17, 2006 8068 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 29, 2011, 6:22 pm - IP Logged | |
He made the wrong assessment because he automatically took the opposite view of mine. I first announced the 3 investment advisers were probably acting as a front and rdgrnr disagreed immediately never wanting to appear to agree with me. Mario38, Your post + the rules copied in your sig, "No Personal Attacks
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My Pick 4 goal. Win $1,500 a week. bel air maryland United States Member #90278 April 24, 2010 1035 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 29, 2011, 7:23 pm - IP Logged | |
Now that this has come out, I think a lot of other future winners will now be doing the same thing. I know I will. (so much for my anomynity) lol. But I would have done it anyway. If the lotteries would give winners the option to remain anomymous, this would not happen. But with a lot of people looking for hand-outs or an easy payday, and the litigious world we live in nowadays, unfortunately people are left with no choice but to try to remain anomymous. Which should be their right. Whether or not they decide to give to charities is their choice. No one told them what to do with their money when they didn't have any, why should people suddenly want to tell you what to do with it when you get some? When looking for winning #'s, keep your mind open as well as your eyes. Patterns are every where. The trick is to spot them before they change. | | |
Mcminnville, Oregon United States Member #3070 December 13, 2003 1912 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 29, 2011, 7:24 pm - IP Logged | |
To whomever won the lottery congrats and enjoy the money. Which is why they probably had the trust set up for them. Nice win! Their is always another jackpot to win.-weshar75 | | |
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Nashville,TN United States Member #79628 August 26, 2009 3 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 29, 2011, 7:27 pm - IP Logged | |
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United States Member #71191 February 8, 2009 4784 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 29, 2011, 7:34 pm - IP Logged | |
I support what the real winner did. I already have official plans set up if I win a jackpot as I don't want anyone knowing I won. I will do whatever it takes to protect my identity & privacy. | | |
Sunny part of town United States Member #102906 December 27, 2010 224 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 29, 2011, 8:09 pm - IP Logged | |
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Orlando, FL United States Member #115805 August 28, 2011 259 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 29, 2011, 8:19 pm - IP Logged | |
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Sunny part of town United States Member #102906 December 27, 2010 224 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 29, 2011, 8:32 pm - IP Logged | |
The 3 asset managers stated that there are no secret lottery winner,they are the only three trustees of the jackpot. They plan on donating $1 million to a charity to help veterans and turning $100 million into $400 million. | | |
Hamilton, OH United States Member #4236 March 27, 2004 266 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 29, 2011, 8:33 pm - IP Logged | |
i even posted a thing in "many what if threads" on lottery post about such a event , before it even happened the thread was don't trust lottery winner press conference , http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/236325/2218953 "funny thing, i had my idea's on this one, like name my trust, mexican investments inc trust, or whatever hire some decent stand in, who lips are sealed"acter" who is a mexican, ofc he be a husky guy wearing a sombrero hat, giant sun glass's, and a fake santa bread. and do the press conference acting as if he sole winner , where the lawyer telling media plz don't ask who the winner is, i let winner tell you hes story thro: stand in comes on stand, hitting key story telling points. saying he wish's to keep hes identy a serect for him self and, due to where hes extended family lives in mexico where kidnaping is high rate. and he don't want to put their lifes at risk "media guilt to stay out of hes life" epic win! and give them a classic hes a mexican who mom came to american for american dream. to support her boy/ family, and how he promise's to take care of all hes relatives back home in mexico and buy hes mom ever thing she dreams of' while me and my laywer 2 weeks later am in hes office having a meeting about investments, we are Laughing our butts off about how easy it is to trick everyone.
ofc, i be moving into a new area where all the rich people live and hang out, , and no one wiser as am not a mexican. and no one put new rich white guy+ lottery winner in same thinking at same time. all part of cover to not only hide who i am form public, but to trick them so they never have a Clue So i agree, don't trust lottery winner press conference," they just replaced my mexicon cover story, with wealth managers being the decoy role. genius none the less, the fact am seeing this play out in real life, when i dreamed of such trickery, rofl. i was fooled for first 24 hours. not many more am not,! i did find it bit odd, i blow it off they was just freinds that 1 ticket got spit 3 ways. now with close friend claiming other wise, it does make sense..... i was thinking why they take more then 2 weeks, losing bank interest, now i know, it was to make sure their real winner/cilent was hidden, by trying to pulla fast one over us the fact is, the real winner is hidden in that trust, that trust could pay to a 2nd trust, where real winner is , we public will Never know, long as they keep it hidden. this is using trust the right way, they just added whole decoy element to try to fool everyone. LOL they are wealth managers for rich people, now they have their richest cilent ever, they would glady do all this stuff, you have a cilent thats 2x the net worth of all your old cilents, you will glady work your ass off . as what is taking place is their efforts to help winner never be know, take the fall them self's LOL will they take the money and run? they look like they could use the exercise. | | |
United States Member #103816 January 5, 2011 308 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 29, 2011, 9:41 pm - IP Logged | |
Yeah somethin aint right, but on a differrent note lets hope mega takes off like it did a year ago and we get to see a record jackpot for the new year.............come on mega!!!!!!! | | |
Elgin, IL United States Member #93570 July 2, 2010 298 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 29, 2011, 11:29 pm - IP Logged | |
Who gives a SH*T about who won or cashed in this fu*king ticket!!!!! Fact: The DA*N ticket has finally been cashed in!! Reality: Move on the the next drawing and move on with your lives. I am so tired of the media making a big hoopla about this fricking ticket!! Be honest, Do you REALLY care about who won? I'm just thrilled that the ticket has been cashed and the jackpot won't be "rolled back into the system". GOOD GRAVY, give it a rest. If anything, start fraudulent claims charges against the knuckleheads that "claimed" to have lost the winning ticket.  Is there so little going on in this pathetic world that the media have to run stories like this? After all, as stated in previous posts, thousands of people have used a hired mouth piece or dummy front to cash in jackpot tickets. Sometimes the American media makes me wonder about how brain damaged they really are. I agree. Who cares who the ticket belongs to?! It's not like this money is going to pay any of our bills. None of us didn't win. Let's move on. | | |
Ridge Runner - Oracle of the Appalachians Way back up in them dadgum hills, son! United States Member #74415 April 28, 2009 12622 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 30, 2011, 12:08 am - IP Logged | |
sorry ridge, but it isn't like you not to have seen through this from the beginning. you are too astute to believe 3 investment bankers split a 1.00 ticket. come on. nice to see you are back on your game. There was nothing to see through. One guy bought a ticket and split it with his buddies. Just because a scenario can accommodate a given conspiracy doesn't automatically mean it is. .
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Eatontown, NJ United States Member #119687 November 29, 2011 333 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 30, 2011, 12:48 am - IP Logged | |
There was nothing to see through. One guy bought a ticket and split it with his buddies. Just because a scenario can accommodate a given conspiracy doesn't automatically mean it is. Hello rdgrnr, I'm a long time reader of Lottery Post but a first time poster. I really enjoy reading your post. They are full of humor and common sense. My girlfriend and I were reading this story and came up with another twist. What do you think? 1. Is it true that when you claim the ticket anonymusly under a trust, that the lottery and IRS know the name and SS# of the real winner even though the public doesn't? If so, we feel the real winner is someone who didn't want the IRS and lottery commission to know who he was. Maybe he's famous, a criminal or tax evader. If he had done if the normal way, his lawyer would have to give the name of the person who owns the trust to lottery commission and IRS but his identification would not be known to the public or press. Right? 2. We also feel the 3 amigos were used to sheild the real winner to garner publicity for their investment firm. Maybe the deal the real winner made with them was to let them claim the prize for him and in return he'd give them upfront fees, managing fees and all this free publicity for their investment firm. Does that sound reasonable? Thanks in advance for your comments. I look forward to hearing from you and all the great LP posters. I choose Tiger as my avatar because I love him and I love golf!  | | |
United States Member #94645 July 24, 2010 3019 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 30, 2011, 5:08 am - IP Logged | |
Now that this has come out, I think a lot of other future winners will now be doing the same thing. I know I will. (so much for my anomynity) lol. But I would have done it anyway. If the lotteries would give winners the option to remain anomymous, this would not happen. But with a lot of people looking for hand-outs or an easy payday, and the litigious world we live in nowadays, unfortunately people are left with no choice but to try to remain anomymous. Which should be their right. Whether or not they decide to give to charities is their choice. No one told them what to do with their money when they didn't have any, why should people suddenly want to tell you what to do with it when you get some? It would be REALLY funny if another CT winner went to those guys and asked them to do the same thing again for them!! Another press conference with them showing up saying they won, THAT would be funny! | | |
United States Member #32929 February 12, 2006 630 Posts Offline | | Posted: November 30, 2011, 7:56 am - IP Logged | |
they just came out and admited a key trust detail they are the only 3 Trustees anyone who knows ever thing about trusts, would now know, Yes, in legal world, the trust won, and as only 3 "Trustees" the claim they made of them being the only 3 winners, is in legal speaking, True in reality, Who the bloody f is the Beneficiaries, that is real winner
The trustees are the legal owners of the trust's property. The trustees administer the affairs attendant to the trust. The trust's affairs may include investing the assets of the trust, "notice the words, investing the assets, and what job do they have in real world?, o its investing the assests for others" hmm. sure ................. their the "real" winners alright. hahahahaha , if fall for that trick, your a sucker for lawyer logic. so when they claim they are the only 3 winners, their not lieing any way "in legal sense" rofl , the trust won, as trustees, they are the 3 winners, its that simple in lawyer world. the real winner is beneficiaries thro. and that person or persons , is not wanting to be found out Rofl. good for them. so now that i know these assest managers are only 3 trustees, they may as will said in lawyer speak " yes we are not real winners, we just managers of the money for someone else, who we never ever tell who it is. why , sense we as trustees have been ordered to kept the Beneficiaries under wraps as per the trust rules duh , intentions of the settlor who made trust, and i have a funny feeling whoever the settlor is, is also the Beneficiarie , who put these 3 clowns as trustees. i see their statement as them being only 3 trustees, the nail in door, its now offical, they are not the Beneficiaries, they are just the money managers for someone else. anyone who says other wise, does not understand trusts, | | |
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