All times shown are Eastern Time (GMT-5:00) | $356 MILLION: Mega Millions lottery jackpot nears recordnc United States Member #99550 October 26, 2010 192 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 3:25 pm - IP Logged | |
Out working in the flowerbeds and found a 4 leaf clover. Stopped and bought my ticket. (Would have bought one anyway). No lines here for tickets yet. Of course Tuesday is still a ways away. Good luck to everyone. May your foundest dream come true! | | |
TX United States Member #121208 January 4, 2012 786 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 3:26 pm - IP Logged | |
Sucks that I'm stuck in Jersey. Also...why is 10% added to the Fed tax in addition to the state tax? Null, I feel for ya.....on 255 million, the feds get 35% at the end of the tax year(although its stated on the lottery website they keep 25%), then you get 10.8 % Jersey state tax...soooo if ya take the 255 million and multiply it times (35+10.8) 45.8 %...... $255,000,000.00 x .458 tax rate......drum roll please.....you get to keep................................................................ ...138 million and change after taxes(roughly)...TAA DAAA  Jackpots...Just Average Citizens Keeping Possibilities Open Towards Security  | | |
United States Member #124824 March 20, 2012 135 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 3:32 pm - IP Logged | |
Gogidolim, mi amigo, I just wanted to be sure you're speaking for yourself about taxes because your attitude and mine toward feeding the beast are poles apart. I wanted to be sure you know you can give as much to the government as you please without insisting everybody else do it because you think it's a good idea. All those millions you donate will be gone in minutes as the feds piss it away to send anxious liberal men to Zimbabwe to study men washing their packages and thousands of other critically important studies just like that. Did you know that we still give China Foreign Aid? Yes, we do. Maybe your millions will go there. So please give freely but understand that a lot of us just don't believe in throwing money away like that. This country's fiscal problems are not due to too few taxes - they're due to too much insanely stupid spending. Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's.
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TX United States Member #121208 January 4, 2012 786 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 3:39 pm - IP Logged | |
So Kumo - you would not really be giving them a gift... you would be giving them a directed deposit. If it were really a 'gift' it would be up to the recipient how/when/where to spend it. Strings are a harsh thing to put on a gift... especially when you would have so much more, it seems controlling. It's one thing to say: 'this much, no more' (for whatever reason), and quite another to say 'and if you dont use it the way I think is best, you are cut off from future largess.' Max...I agree with you on the gift issue..while the gift is a very generous thing to do, it is considered a gift and not a loan.... the giver wants to see the receiver exercise some of the same ideas on how to spend it, as the giver sees it.....I wonder if you could just offer to pay down their bills up to the 13K/26K ( IRS max allowed to be given as a gift) instead ? Might be an option of generosity that would be acceptable....imho Jackpots...Just Average Citizens Keeping Possibilities Open Towards Security  | | |
Indiana United States Member #122879 February 9, 2012 310 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 3:39 pm - IP Logged | |
Null, I feel for ya.....on 255 million, the feds get 35% at the end of the tax year(although its stated on the lottery website they keep 25%), then you get 10.8 % Jersey state tax...soooo if ya take the 255 million and multiply it times (35+10.8) 45.8 %...... $255,000,000.00 x .458 tax rate......drum roll please.....you get to keep................................................................ ...138 million and change after taxes(roughly)...TAA DAAA  even still is such a huge amount of money... i would gladly still accept this any hour of the day!!!! got a few of my quick picks from random gas stations around town... still workin on my numbers... will proally spend about $20 in all... i know my day will come.. i just hope its Tuesday!!!! ;-)  | | |
Indiana United States Member #122879 February 9, 2012 310 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 3:40 pm - IP Logged | |
Max...I agree with you on the gift issue..while the gift is a very generous thing to do, it is considered a gift and not a loan.... the giver wants to see the receiver exercise some of the same ideas on how to spend it, as the giver sees it.....I wonder if you could just offer to pay down their bills up to the 13K/26K ( IRS max allowed to be given as a gift) instead ? Might be an option of generosity that would be acceptable....imho what is imho?? | | |
TX United States Member #121208 January 4, 2012 786 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 3:41 pm - IP Logged | |
In my humble opinion Jackpots...Just Average Citizens Keeping Possibilities Open Towards Security  | | |
United States Member #72957 March 18, 2009 777 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 3:46 pm - IP Logged | |
Sucks that I'm stuck in Jersey. Also...why is 10% added to the Fed tax in addition to the state tax? Because, Null Space, if you study the IRS code online, you will notice that lottery winnings are taxed as "earned income." If you read the U.S.A. Federal Income Tax Table's "earned income" brackets, you will find out that big lottery jackpot winners are instantly ALL in the top income tax bracket, which is 35% (even those very rare MM and PB jackpot winners who take the annuity amount -- which would still be in the top income tax bracket each year). Consequently, if you read that your Lottery Headquarters in only withdrawing 25% U.S.A. Federal Income [plus your State Income Tax (and some winners also get County and/or Municipal lottery taxes withdrawn)], then you must deduce that you still will owe your Federal Government the remaining, approximately 10% due on your own, annual, tax form submittal. You will need to pay that remaining approximately 10% before the prior year's income taxes are due the following year, by April 15th 'ish. If you forget to pay that approximate 10% Income Tax (subtract appropriate amount if a corporation or charity or foundation or gave to a charity), remaining, the IRS will soon write to you announcing that they've penalized you an additional % Fine. I bet that the U.S.A. Federal IRS isn't unaccustomed to tracking and collecting this. 
Having millions of dollars in my financial accounts means more, consistent fun for me.
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Ridge Runner - Oracle of the Appalachians Way back up in them dadgum hills, son! United States Member #74415 April 28, 2009 12456 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 3:59 pm - IP Logged | |
Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's.
I will not willingly render unto Caesar my hard earned money so drooling liberal men in this country can go to Zimbabwe to watch men there wash their genitalia for "science." Let them pay for their own sick-minded sexcapades. And I will never willingly render unto Caesar money to slaughter innocent babies or euthanize old people. Ain't happenin'. Period. I'll never forget old whats-his-name... | | |
United States Member #72957 March 18, 2009 777 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 4:00 pm - IP Logged | |
Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's.
They both exist?  Having millions of dollars in my financial accounts means more, consistent fun for me.
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Indiana United States Member #120733 December 26, 2011 47 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 4:01 pm - IP Logged | |
set up a charitable organization like the bigwigs do to avoid estate tax etc with part of your money. do good deeds. pay yourself and others to work there. write off expenses. There is a website you can go to where you can look at the tax returns of charities and what they actually give out of the money received. Since you aren't collecting donations from anyone all you need to worry about is what fits the rules - not the morality aspect of taking someone's money and not giving it to the intended target. Barron Hilton pledged to give away his fortune to charity. You can just imagine the salaries the Hilton's are pulling in from that charity. By doing that, his fortune was not taxed to death when he died (if he is dead)
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Indiana United States Member #122879 February 9, 2012 310 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 4:10 pm - IP Logged | |
cool.. thanks!!! | | |
Windermere, FL/Franklin, TN United States Member #50670 March 1, 2007 488 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 4:41 pm - IP Logged | |
If he/she is the sole winner then paying some more tax won't make that much difference. I mean, cash value in $250 millions? C'mon! "Paying some more tax won't make that much difference" ? Tell that to those who live in states that charge over 10% state income tax(NJ 10.8%) on top of the 35% Federal tax rate (they only take out 25% initially but you WILL be on the hook for the other 10%. If there is a sole winner who happened to live in NJ, their $255 million cash prize would have 25.5 million in State and 89.3 million in Federal tax obligations making the total tax almost 115 million. I know the president cries about the rich paying their fare share but this is insane. A 356 million jackpot ends up netting 140 million...don't get me wrong as I would be overjoyed if I won but 140 million doesn't quite go as far as the $356 million that the media wants most people to believe they will win. | | |
Jawja United States Member #87494 February 25, 2010 109 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 4:42 pm - IP Logged | |
Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's.
I certainly believe in God, but what is conotated here is that I would owe 10% to some church's collection plate. Well, I think I could put that 10% to work much better than 99.9% of the so called churches out there operating out of some prefab acme steel building. As for Caesar, I KNOW I can help those that are worthy of my help mo betta than present day Caesar can. I trust myself more than I do "Caesar" to figure out who would benefit from my largess the most. | | |
Indiana United States Member #122879 February 9, 2012 310 Posts Offline | | Posted: March 25, 2012, 4:52 pm - IP Logged | |
"Paying some more tax won't make that much difference" ? Tell that to those who live in states that charge over 10% state income tax(NJ 10.8%) on top of the 35% Federal tax rate (they only take out 25% initially but you WILL be on the hook for the other 10%. If there is a sole winner who happened to live in NJ, their $255 million cash prize would have 25.5 million in State and 89.3 million in Federal tax obligations making the total tax almost 115 million. I know the president cries about the rich paying their fare share but this is insane. A 356 million jackpot ends up netting 140 million...don't get me wrong as I would be overjoyed if I won but 140 million doesn't quite go as far as the $356 million that the media wants most people to believe they will win. I had generally assumed the actual cash after taxes would be 1/3 of the jackpot... But i agree w u saying the media makes it seem like the winner will actually receive $356,000,000.00 (looks so much nicer to put the zeros!!) and while 140-170,000,000.00 would b more than enough for me and my family, the people/groups hounding for money i doubt will c it that way... I am ok w Indiana getting 3.5%... but 35% is high!! | | |
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