You last visited May 22, 2013, 2:16 pm All times shown are Eastern Time (GMT-5:00) | NY lottery winner charged with welfare fraudcornwall,ct United States Member #102665 December 23, 2010 236 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 15, 2012, 9:27 pm - IP Logged | |
Another stupid liberal that probably lives from welfare check to welfare check.The only question is who is drawing the check,him or his girlfriend. you're partly correct. yes I am a democrat.but I am also a manager for my towns company's cable company.I also teach at my karate do Jo at night so no I am not on state assitance.unlike yourself who's proberly that guy you see at your local package store on pay day buying scratch offs and lottery tickets until closing,but not before buying 3 pints of wild Irish rose and a pack of non filtered camels for the night.also the company I work for is the largest cable company in the industry. Kyokushin karate a.k.a.
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S.E.Iowa United States Member #120520 December 21, 2011 534 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 15, 2012, 9:39 pm - IP Logged | |
you're partly correct. yes I am a democrat.but I am also a manager for my towns company's cable company.I also teach at my karate do Jo at night so no I am not on state assitance.unlike yourself who's proberly that guy you see at your local package store on pay day buying scratch offs and lottery tickets until closing,but not before buying 3 pints of wild Irish rose and a pack of non filtered camels for the night.also the company I work for is the largest cable company in the industry. No,before I became disabled I worked for a living and I haven't had drink of anything except Mt.Dew (I paid for it myself with MY MONEY) in over 30 years.I don't buy scratch off tickets,but if I did it would be with money that I EARNED from working,not at the expense of taxpayers.As a working person YOU should be as outraged as most of the others on this thread,but being a bleeding heart liberal you want to take the side of the deadbeats.Well,you did your good deed for the day,now go lay down!And no one cares about your veiled threat of being a karate teacher. When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it. ~Clarence Darrow There ought to be one day - just one - when there is open season on senators. ~Will Rogers | | |
Housekeeper MICHIGAN United States Member #82269 October 28, 2009 13125 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 15, 2012, 9:57 pm - IP Logged | |
why do you play a game with odds equal to being struck by lightning and eastern by a bear in the same hour? because you enjoy it right. I'm pretty sure that if you looked you would notice the looks you get from customers behind you for playing the lottery. the majority of America agrees that the lottery is a fools game.why do these people waist their money on a game with terrible odds they say.i,'m sure if someone asked you to stop waisting your money on the lottery you would tell them to mind their business right,well what people on public assistance buy w/ their money is their business.agree? now I'm not saying your a hypocrite.but your comments suggest different.just some food for thought. I earn my money, Key word ...EARN, I get up and go to work everyday, I am not sitting around waiting for someone else's money to show up so I can go shopping. Keyword, PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, These people did not earn my money, I did. If they want to go to work everyday, then they can piss away their money on whatever they want, I am sick of being ( forced to support someone else. ) I believe in charity, and I give generously, but I have a problem with the amount of tax I pay, Charity is my choice. I am tired of someone else enjoying the fruits of my labor. It is not their money, it's tax payer money, and no, they can NOT spend this money on whatever they want and they know it, hence the fraud. NO WELFARE=NO WELFARE FRAUD. There are a lot of us who are sick of taking care of people who have no desire to take care of themselves. I am sick of being FORCED to pay for other peoples poor choices. It's Re-distribution of wealth, it's wrong and it's going to stop. | | |
egg harbor twp.south jersey shore United States Member #112990 June 29, 2011 2500 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 15, 2012, 10:16 pm - IP Logged | |
I earn my money, Key word ...EARN, I get up and go to work everyday, I am not sitting around waiting for someone else's money to show up so I can go shopping. Keyword, PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, These people did not earn my money, I did. If they want to go to work everyday, then they can piss away their money on whatever they want, I am sick of being ( forced to support someone else. ) I believe in charity, and I give generously, but I have a problem with the amount of tax I pay, Charity is my choice. I am tired of someone else enjoying the fruits of my labor. It is not their money, it's tax payer money, and no, they can NOT spend this money on whatever they want and they know it, hence the fraud. NO WELFARE=NO WELFARE FRAUD. There are a lot of us who are sick of taking care of people who have no desire to take care of themselves. I am sick of being FORCED to pay for other peoples poor choices. It's Re-distribution of wealth, it's wrong and it's going to stop. sully16, yes, i like the pointing out of the the key words, maybe those words should be in the form of a question on public assistance apps. the correct answers would be the definitations. incorrect answer, denied. Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds -- Charles Mackay LL.D. | | |
cornwall,ct United States Member #102665 December 23, 2010 236 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 15, 2012, 10:30 pm - IP Logged | |
No,before I became disabled I worked for a living and I haven't had drink of anything except Mt.Dew (I paid for it myself with MY MONEY) in over 30 years.I don't buy scratch off tickets,but if I did it would be with money that I EARNED from working,not at the expense of taxpayers.As a working person YOU should be as outraged as most of the others on this thread,but being a bleeding heart liberal you want to take the side of the deadbeats.Well,you did your good deed for the day,now go lay down!And no one cares about your veiled threat of being a karate teacher. thanks for proving my point cletus. you get disability each month right. now do you use this funds to support you're gambling habit or you're unhealthy choice of beverage.you do know that mountain dew contains vegetable oil right. these benefits come from my tax paying dollars but I don't complain because once you get that check in the mail each month I can't control what you spend it on.I did my part as a citizen to help out those that can't help themselves,so that yes is my good deed.also my mention of being a instructor was in no way a threat.I was just pointing out what I do.now as far as your comment about me being bleeding lib,I won't even entertain it.we all know the reason certain folks don't like the current president. Kyokushin karate a.k.a.
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Elgin, IL United States Member #93570 July 2, 2010 291 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 16, 2012, 1:59 am - IP Logged | |
I earn my money, Key word ...EARN, I get up and go to work everyday, I am not sitting around waiting for someone else's money to show up so I can go shopping. Keyword, PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, These people did not earn my money, I did. If they want to go to work everyday, then they can piss away their money on whatever they want, I am sick of being ( forced to support someone else. ) I believe in charity, and I give generously, but I have a problem with the amount of tax I pay, Charity is my choice. I am tired of someone else enjoying the fruits of my labor. It is not their money, it's tax payer money, and no, they can NOT spend this money on whatever they want and they know it, hence the fraud. NO WELFARE=NO WELFARE FRAUD. There are a lot of us who are sick of taking care of people who have no desire to take care of themselves. I am sick of being FORCED to pay for other peoples poor choices. It's Re-distribution of wealth, it's wrong and it's going to stop. When I win I'm coming to your town with a borrowed Link card and I'm going buy stuff I don't even eat just to piss you off. You can buy fruits, water, chips and soda. That's legal. My mother worked at least 6 grocery stores back in the day and she never gave a <snip> about what people bought with freakin' food stamps. I actually mentioned this topic to her and she laughed. This post has been automatically changed by the Lottery Post computer system to remove inappropriate content and/or spam. | | |
Pennsylvania United States Member #74607 May 2, 2009 13890 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 16, 2012, 2:28 am - IP Logged | |
I think we need to be very specific about just which welfare recipients cause the greatest anger, resentment and outrage. I think it's very easy to lump them all into the category of: unworthy of receiving benefits. I do not have a problem knowing that a minor percentage of collective tax dollars are going to help families, single mothers, single fathers, children, elderly and so on...the percentage of each person's contribution of tax dollars going to help these people, whether they deserve it or not, is even more miniscule..in fact, it's almost microscopic. I find nothing wrong with my 1/10 or so of a cent being used the legitimate purpose of helping those in need. The organization, the people misusing the system, the government, the people in charge turning a blind eye or just plain being lazy are the ones to blame for the abuse of the food stamp privilege. It's not a right to collect when you think you've worked long and hard enough that now, someone owes you something and come hell or highwater 'you're going to get yours'. I have a problem with Red Bull purchases in the quantity you spoke of sully and also have a problem with the resale of cards for cash. I have a problem with the subject of the story continuing to collect benefits that could be used to benefit someone that is honestly in need. Chips and soda..that doesn't bother me too much. Candy, cakes and other junk food does not either. The reason is that if someone wants to splurge and feel like they belong sometimes to the human race, then alright by me. This is very, very different from the guy buying Red Bull. The criminals are the ones reselling their benefit cards so they can take the cash and buy drugs or whatever else their hearts desire. The criminals are the ones who have a great paying job and think that someone owes them something and if they qualify by withholding some information, then why not take it?..everyone else is doing it. The criminals are the ones who come and spend their benefit on items to resell so they come out with 3 or 4 times their benefit amount in cash. The criminals are the ones, like in the story, that neglect to report changes in income or other sources of cash intake and continue milking the system they should not even qualify for after the circumstantial changes. A huge finger needs to be pointed at the system that allows such misuse. Due to laziness, shortages of manpower, the hum-drum of the daily grind and the acceptance of a broken system, there will always be people slipping through the cracks. It takes a long time to catch up with these people who are cheating the system and why is that? The problem is too overwhelming? Someone's not doing their job? Someone wants to appear to be doing their job? Or someone is scratching someone else's back....or watching it? Try not to coral all recipients into one category. There are truly people in need and who are thankful to have the extra help each month. There are people with jobs that still qualify for food stamps. There are families who would rather not take 'hand outs' yet need them to 'make it'. There are people following the rules and the ones that are not are painting a horrible picture for them. There is already a stigma attached to benefits...whether it's generated by people who wish they had more or could get something for nothing or are just irritated that they're not eligible, I don't know. The feeling of I got mine, now you get yours should be replaced with I got mine, I'll help you get yours if you really need it. I just know that there is a tax for just about everything. Everywhere you turn, money is going into someone else's pocket. I don't mind a crackdown at all. I would just like to see a crackdown take place instead of a total shutdown. I don't mind supporting any good cause. If the day comes where I'm feeling outraged at the system due to blantant and rampant misuse...and not the occassional story about one welfare criminal.... I'll hop on the bandwagon and push for justice. Right now with the minimal contribution little old me is making towards giving the rats of the group opportunity to live 'better' than me, I can't be too angry about it. It's just another cut in a sea of so many cuts being given away to support one thing or another. Until the agency itself takes responsibility for qualifying criminals and doesn't get off their dead azz and do some work and investigating nothing will change. They are as much to blame as the ones out there taking a free ride and laughing all the way, courtesy of Mr & Mrs Taxpayer..aka: you, me and almost everyone else. | | |
Bahamas Member #114704 August 5, 2011 422 Posts Offline
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The ppl. in line behind me wish i would get out of the way so they could do the same foolish thing faster, but i'm doing the "fool thing" w/ money i worked for, and thats what makes it a fool thing, but, ppl. on public assistance buy? tickets w/ "THEIR MONEY" (came from taxpayers) is he gonna split the win w/ me, don't think so. OK, so who is the real fool ? I agree 100% "Freedom of Speech? Keep reading and you will discover that freedom comes at a price!" | | |
United States Member #111797 June 2, 2011 328 Posts Offline
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Anyone who wants to see the epitome of welfare fraud come spend the day at work with me, just today we had a fine young man buy 9 cases of REDBULL, At 35 dollars a case plus 2.40 in deposits per case which the tax payers shell out for that comes to $336.60, He did buy food, Famous Amos cookies, beef jerky, Hot pockets and the ever popular pop tarts, and yes I hope the Beef Jerky falls on the floor and the dog eats it. Oh he's wheeling 283, so anyone in Michigan who feels lucky you can play his number also, couldn't tell you what his mega- million numbers are. The guy in this story needs to go to prison. my wife works at a store the she gets so discouraged that people load up their carts with crap and we have to put things back:( she works so hard and they (food stamp people) have the best phones the tattoos and guess sunglasses and drive a nicer car. you can tell the ones who are scamming. whats worse are the muslims that have corner stores come in and buy the stuff on food stamps and then sell it at thier stores and you know the money is going to fund bad things. | | |
United States Member #111467 May 25, 2011 6323 Posts Offline
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my wife works at a store the she gets so discouraged that people load up their carts with crap and we have to put things back:( she works so hard and they (food stamp people) have the best phones the tattoos and guess sunglasses and drive a nicer car. you can tell the ones who are scamming. whats worse are the muslims that have corner stores come in and buy the stuff on food stamps and then sell it at thier stores and you know the money is going to fund bad things. Are you implying that food stamps are aiding the Muslims on planning another 9-11? | | |
Housekeeper MICHIGAN United States Member #82269 October 28, 2009 13125 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 16, 2012, 8:50 am - IP Logged | |
I think we need to be very specific about just which welfare recipients cause the greatest anger, resentment and outrage. I think it's very easy to lump them all into the category of: unworthy of receiving benefits. I do not have a problem knowing that a minor percentage of collective tax dollars are going to help families, single mothers, single fathers, children, elderly and so on...the percentage of each person's contribution of tax dollars going to help these people, whether they deserve it or not, is even more miniscule..in fact, it's almost microscopic. I find nothing wrong with my 1/10 or so of a cent being used the legitimate purpose of helping those in need. The organization, the people misusing the system, the government, the people in charge turning a blind eye or just plain being lazy are the ones to blame for the abuse of the food stamp privilege. It's not a right to collect when you think you've worked long and hard enough that now, someone owes you something and come hell or highwater 'you're going to get yours'. I have a problem with Red Bull purchases in the quantity you spoke of sully and also have a problem with the resale of cards for cash. I have a problem with the subject of the story continuing to collect benefits that could be used to benefit someone that is honestly in need. Chips and soda..that doesn't bother me too much. Candy, cakes and other junk food does not either. The reason is that if someone wants to splurge and feel like they belong sometimes to the human race, then alright by me. This is very, very different from the guy buying Red Bull. The criminals are the ones reselling their benefit cards so they can take the cash and buy drugs or whatever else their hearts desire. The criminals are the ones who have a great paying job and think that someone owes them something and if they qualify by withholding some information, then why not take it?..everyone else is doing it. The criminals are the ones who come and spend their benefit on items to resell so they come out with 3 or 4 times their benefit amount in cash. The criminals are the ones, like in the story, that neglect to report changes in income or other sources of cash intake and continue milking the system they should not even qualify for after the circumstantial changes. A huge finger needs to be pointed at the system that allows such misuse. Due to laziness, shortages of manpower, the hum-drum of the daily grind and the acceptance of a broken system, there will always be people slipping through the cracks. It takes a long time to catch up with these people who are cheating the system and why is that? The problem is too overwhelming? Someone's not doing their job? Someone wants to appear to be doing their job? Or someone is scratching someone else's back....or watching it? Try not to coral all recipients into one category. There are truly people in need and who are thankful to have the extra help each month. There are people with jobs that still qualify for food stamps. There are families who would rather not take 'hand outs' yet need them to 'make it'. There are people following the rules and the ones that are not are painting a horrible picture for them. There is already a stigma attached to benefits...whether it's generated by people who wish they had more or could get something for nothing or are just irritated that they're not eligible, I don't know. The feeling of I got mine, now you get yours should be replaced with I got mine, I'll help you get yours if you really need it. I just know that there is a tax for just about everything. Everywhere you turn, money is going into someone else's pocket. I don't mind a crackdown at all. I would just like to see a crackdown take place instead of a total shutdown. I don't mind supporting any good cause. If the day comes where I'm feeling outraged at the system due to blantant and rampant misuse...and not the occassional story about one welfare criminal.... I'll hop on the bandwagon and push for justice. Right now with the minimal contribution little old me is making towards giving the rats of the group opportunity to live 'better' than me, I can't be too angry about it. It's just another cut in a sea of so many cuts being given away to support one thing or another. Until the agency itself takes responsibility for qualifying criminals and doesn't get off their dead azz and do some work and investigating nothing will change. They are as much to blame as the ones out there taking a free ride and laughing all the way, courtesy of Mr & Mrs Taxpayer..aka: you, me and almost everyone else. Good points Dr, And yes our biggest contributor of the fraud started at the Department of Human services, so far 17 employees have been dismissed and 3 have been convicted for fraud, Under our former govenor she got those federal dollars to roll in and the free for all started. We have a big giant mess here, and theres not enough people to deal with the fraud, and it is the fraud I speak of. We have food banks, focus hope and churches will give food vouchers. These places are depleted every month, sadly , people receiving benefits also ransack these places, thats why they can buy so much junk with the ebt. I have changed the way I donate, Childrens Hopital and St Jude are now my priority. My sons Boy scout troop collects food for the needy, and twice a year he helps out making food for the homeless with our Church, I want him to have compassion, a sense of being grateful for the things he has, most important to never turn his back on his fellow man. At 12 he now understands theres a difference between the people who have been hit hard and the takers, who hurt everyone. There is no easy solution, I can't bear the thought of a child going hungry, or going without the simple everyday things. In the same breath I don't feel like I should support someone who wants me to buy the things they need so they can have the things they want. I will not speak on this subject ever again, I think there will be a reckoning, and Karma will catch up in some way to the people who have wantonly and greedily taken a piece of the pie they didn't deserve. | | |
cornwall,ct United States Member #102665 December 23, 2010 236 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 16, 2012, 8:54 am - IP Logged | |
my wife works at a store the she gets so discouraged that people load up their carts with crap and we have to put things back:( she works so hard and they (food stamp people) have the best phones the tattoos and guess sunglasses and drive a nicer car. you can tell the ones who are scamming. whats worse are the muslims that have corner stores come in and buy the stuff on food stamps and then sell it at thier stores and you know the money is going to fund bad things. wow! are f*********g retarded?maybe you guys should take some college classes and get a real job.like at a company that pays more than $7.50 p/hour.but first you may need to get your high school diploma.ged's don't count. Kyokushin karate a.k.a.
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TX United States Member #121208 January 4, 2012 786 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 16, 2012, 10:31 am - IP Logged | |
wow! are f*********g retarded?maybe you guys should take some college classes and get a real job.like at a company that pays more than $7.50 p/hour.but first you may need to get your high school diploma.ged's don't count. Nice language....and from a ," yes I am a democrat.but I am also a manager for my towns company's cable company" "also the company I work for is the largest cable company in the industry". Very mature Mr ky. I sure hope that nobody ever copies and pastes these statements and then makes some of inquiry/report to the,"largest cable company in the industry"....Not that they would know who the largest cable country in the industry is up in New England or if one of their managers who,"I also teach at my karate do Jo at night so no I am not on state assitance."
Because he/ she has a different point of view than you do. Then you utilize that kind of "manager" or "teach" language to berate people on line ??? Let me give you a friendly courtesy piece of advice from a veteran law enforcement officers perspective........if you think you wont be found out ?, You might want to rethink that issue....Large companies are very strict on their employees behavior, on and off the clock, especially when they claim to be a "manager" of that company.
An alleged manager from the largest cable company in the industry and an alleged instructor hunh ??.....Interesting Jackpots...Just Average Citizens Keeping Possibilities Open Towards Security  | | |
Clarksville United States Member #489 July 15, 2002 15860 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 16, 2012, 10:55 am - IP Logged | |
I earn my money, Key word ...EARN, I get up and go to work everyday, I am not sitting around waiting for someone else's money to show up so I can go shopping. Keyword, PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, These people did not earn my money, I did. If they want to go to work everyday, then they can piss away their money on whatever they want, I am sick of being ( forced to support someone else. ) I believe in charity, and I give generously, but I have a problem with the amount of tax I pay, Charity is my choice. I am tired of someone else enjoying the fruits of my labor. It is not their money, it's tax payer money, and no, they can NOT spend this money on whatever they want and they know it, hence the fraud. NO WELFARE=NO WELFARE FRAUD. There are a lot of us who are sick of taking care of people who have no desire to take care of themselves. I am sick of being FORCED to pay for other peoples poor choices. It's Re-distribution of wealth, it's wrong and it's going to stop. I really like what you said. I could tell you some REAL stories. "There are a lot of us who are sick of taking care of people who have no desire to take care of themselves." That sentence sums up a situation that I am currently facing. I am definitely getting tired. Posters are not forever... | | |
Pennsylvania United States Member #74607 May 2, 2009 13890 Posts Offline | | Posted: April 16, 2012, 11:04 am - IP Logged | |
Good points Dr, And yes our biggest contributor of the fraud started at the Department of Human services, so far 17 employees have been dismissed and 3 have been convicted for fraud, Under our former govenor she got those federal dollars to roll in and the free for all started. We have a big giant mess here, and theres not enough people to deal with the fraud, and it is the fraud I speak of. We have food banks, focus hope and churches will give food vouchers. These places are depleted every month, sadly , people receiving benefits also ransack these places, thats why they can buy so much junk with the ebt. I have changed the way I donate, Childrens Hopital and St Jude are now my priority. My sons Boy scout troop collects food for the needy, and twice a year he helps out making food for the homeless with our Church, I want him to have compassion, a sense of being grateful for the things he has, most important to never turn his back on his fellow man. At 12 he now understands theres a difference between the people who have been hit hard and the takers, who hurt everyone. There is no easy solution, I can't bear the thought of a child going hungry, or going without the simple everyday things. In the same breath I don't feel like I should support someone who wants me to buy the things they need so they can have the things they want. I will not speak on this subject ever again, I think there will be a reckoning, and Karma will catch up in some way to the people who have wantonly and greedily taken a piece of the pie they didn't deserve. sully, I agree with you, it is a very big mess. I'm all for cracking down on the program blood-suckers that bleed the system dry with their wants vs. the people who need. Innocent, truly needy people suffer in more ways than obvious due to the filth that are sapping the system. They suffer with needless investigations just so some higher up can say they're doing their job, they suffer cuts or expulsion due to tougher laws that were put into place so someone could receive kudo's for a working system. It doesn't work. It'll take a long, long time to make it work...but someone has to do something about it. While they're throwing offenders off the system they can also carve the ranks of contributors to the problem. They've got the solution turned upside down. It doesn't lie with coming down on innocent recipients. They need to start at the top and work their way down. One thing I don't agree with sully is that you said you won't say anything about it ever again. Keep being a voice, keep your eyes open and your mouth too The day we give up is the day they win and we all lose. Report what you see, you're in a prime position to witness fraud and gross misuse of benefits that weren't meant to be used for living it up. It's hard and frustrating dealing with agencies where people are just another number and pushed through without strict guidelines being enforced. These people are robots and pawns for people in much higher places patting themselves on the back for a job well done. It's a big joke and if we don't push and don't say anything, the joke is on all of us. Thank you sully for what you do and how you feel, it's refreshing, empowering and motivating. We need more people like you in the world. | | |
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