All times shown are Eastern Time (GMT-5:00) | Iowa Lottery releases names of 'Shipping 20' Powerball winnersupstate NY United States Member #108819 March 31, 2011 434 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 7, 2012, 3:05 pm - IP Logged | |
Yeah,I wonder how they'll feel about soaking the rich after they win a jackpot and the feds come in & confiscate 75% of their winnings. Oh goody, the paranoid delusionals have come out to play again.  | | |
Kentucky United States Member #33045 February 14, 2006 4187 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 7, 2012, 3:30 pm - IP Logged | |
Interesting. I wonder why their attorney didn't push forward with filing an injunction; maybe he told them they couldn't win & they just said "eff it!"? Too bad; this could have been a trend setting case that prevented states from exposing winners to all the creeps, weirdos & scum that a lottery win attracts. There's got to be some lawyer somewhere who could argue about the safety of the winners being more important than the state forcing them to become public figures... "I wonder why their attorney didn't push forward with filing an injunction" Because the "shipping 20" would have to go to court and prove why the injunction should be permanent and by doing so their names would be reveled. "Too bad; this could have been a trend setting case that prevented states from exposing winners to all the creeps, weirdos & scum that a lottery win attracts." Iowa has an open public records law and and though highly unlikely, even if the Iowa Supreme Court found that law unconstitutional it would have zero effect on any other state lottery. What about the creeps, weirdos, and scum that continue to draw public assistance after winning a large jackpot; should they be given anonymity so they can keep on collecting benefits? | | |
Clarksville United States Member #489 July 15, 2002 15878 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 7, 2012, 6:28 pm - IP Logged | |
"I wonder why their attorney didn't push forward with filing an injunction" Because the "shipping 20" would have to go to court and prove why the injunction should be permanent and by doing so their names would be reveled. "Too bad; this could have been a trend setting case that prevented states from exposing winners to all the creeps, weirdos & scum that a lottery win attracts." Iowa has an open public records law and and though highly unlikely, even if the Iowa Supreme Court found that law unconstitutional it would have zero effect on any other state lottery. What about the creeps, weirdos, and scum that continue to draw public assistance after winning a large jackpot; should they be given anonymity so they can keep on collecting benefits? Really it comes down to economics..they didn't want to paythe two million or so dollars it would cost.. Lawyers have to get theirs.. Posters are not forever... | | |
United States Member #73404 March 30, 2009 23 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 7, 2012, 8:26 pm - IP Logged | |
NC requires the winner's name and city & state be published. The lottery also asks for a picture. The exception is if you have a protective order in place. I'm having my attorney use the system, to my advantage, to get a protection order and the lottery can pay me for a picture to market their game when I win... | | |
United States Member #121760 January 16, 2012 1633 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 7, 2012, 9:24 pm - IP Logged | |
Interesting. I wonder why their attorney didn't push forward with filing an injunction; maybe he told them they couldn't win & they just said "eff it!"? Too bad; this could have been a trend setting case that prevented states from exposing winners to all the creeps, weirdos & scum that a lottery win attracts. There's got to be some lawyer somewhere who could argue about the safety of the winners being more important than the state forcing them to become public figures... I think the attorney told them it was a long shot and would take a lot of $ to fight it. You can always find an attorney to argue anything (belief in a "colorable" claim) but honest ones are upfront about things being a long shot and a long fight...and there seems to be little to no precedent there to justify a safety claim. Until more than a few lottery winners get tracked down and killed or injured by a nut (and a direct tie in to their name and address being public info), there is not going to be a real issue of protecting these winners. Wealth is attracting the weirdos, not the lottery per se. | | |
Eatontown, NJ United States Member #119687 November 29, 2011 318 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 7, 2012, 9:27 pm - IP Logged | |
NC requires the winner's name and city & state be published. The lottery also asks for a picture. The exception is if you have a protective order in place. I'm having my attorney use the system, to my advantage, to get a protection order and the lottery can pay me for a picture to market their game when I win... The exception is if you have a protective order in place. I'm having my attorney use the system, to my advantage, to get a protection order and the lottery can pay me for a picture to market their game when I win... 
Rooster, I don't understand what kind of "order of protection" you need? And how is your lawyer able to get you one out of the blue (and who do you need protection from)? Why would you sell your picture to the lottery? Your comment is interesting and I'm ignorant. Thanks!  | | |
upstate NY United States Member #108819 March 31, 2011 434 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 8, 2012, 12:35 am - IP Logged | |
"I wonder why their attorney didn't push forward with filing an injunction" Because the "shipping 20" would have to go to court and prove why the injunction should be permanent and by doing so their names would be reveled. "Too bad; this could have been a trend setting case that prevented states from exposing winners to all the creeps, weirdos & scum that a lottery win attracts." Iowa has an open public records law and and though highly unlikely, even if the Iowa Supreme Court found that law unconstitutional it would have zero effect on any other state lottery. What about the creeps, weirdos, and scum that continue to draw public assistance after winning a large jackpot; should they be given anonymity so they can keep on collecting benefits? An Iowa decision allowing for lottery winners to retain their anonymity may not have an immediate effect on any other state lottery, but it could be used in future court cases as precedent. It would be a piecemeal effort lasting many years -- basically, any time a winner is adamant enough about remaining anonymous that they're willing to sue their state -- but it could happen. Emphasis on "could"; standard IANAL disclaimer applies. | | |
Inland Empire United States Member #118131 October 22, 2011 235 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 8, 2012, 12:35 am - IP Logged | |
Because I actually understand economics, and I know that economic growth starts at the top! Petty jealousy of the wealthy is childish! Actual Economic History proves that slashing taxes gives us enormous economic growth and prosperity. That is how the Wilson Depression was ended by Secretary Mellon! 
Uh, what's with the flag? | | |
United States Member #111467 May 25, 2011 6323 Posts Offline
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NC requires the winner's name and city & state be published. The lottery also asks for a picture. The exception is if you have a protective order in place. I'm having my attorney use the system, to my advantage, to get a protection order and the lottery can pay me for a picture to market their game when I win... I'll get myself a protective order also, for when I win. The state can have my picture for $500,000, direct deposit wired to my checking account.  Thanks for the tip rooster, now everyone can claim protective orders when they win. Who needs to win the lottery? Just pay us for our mug.  | | |
Ridge Runner - Oracle of the Appalachians Way back up in them dadgum hills, son! United States Member #74415 April 28, 2009 12456 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 8, 2012, 8:51 am - IP Logged | |
Uh, what's with the flag? Uh, he probably didn't realize that the flag offends you. Or, like me, he doesn't care if it offends you. God Bless America!     
I'll never forget old whats-his-name... | | |
United States Member #121760 January 16, 2012 1633 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 8, 2012, 9:09 am - IP Logged | |
lol....Seriously though, if something is a news worthy story in a public setting (and not used for a book or something else for profit or artwork belonging to you or being licensed on products) there is typically a right to use your image...no reasonable expectation of privacy. If a news photographer snaps a picture of you running from a catastrophe, they can use the image in a story without a release as well (as long as you not portrayed in a false light..."Here is John running from a fire that he started.") Now if they want to use that image in a book, a work of art, etc. then they need your written permission (and if it is on products for sale like mugs, t-shirts, then you are absolutely entitled to licensing royalties). I have had my own artwork images used in books and magazines (with my advance permission and a written release) but the standard in the industy in zero royalties for these matters (most artists are just thrillled to have their work selected). | | |
Inland Empire United States Member #118131 October 22, 2011 235 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 8, 2012, 10:53 am - IP Logged | |
Uh, he probably didn't realize that the flag offends you. Or, like me, he doesn't care if it offends you. God Bless America!     
No. Not offending. Just out of place. | | |
Texas United States Member #56363 October 23, 2007 2422 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 8, 2012, 11:25 am - IP Logged | |
No. Not offending. Just out of place. That got me to wondering. When or why would our flag ever be out of place? If that's the case, why fly the flag anywhere? CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)
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United States Member #111467 May 25, 2011 6323 Posts Offline
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That got me to wondering. When or why would our flag ever be out of place? If that's the case, why fly the flag anywhere? Perhaps in a communist or dictatorship country, our flag might be out of place?  | | |
Texas United States Member #56363 October 23, 2007 2422 Posts Offline | | Posted: July 8, 2012, 12:36 pm - IP Logged | |
Perhaps in a communist or dictatorship country, our flag might be out of place?  My reference would be the US. I personally don't care about communist or dictatorship countries. Guess I should have made that clearer. I understand that there are members on LP from other countries. LP was founded and is owned by an American in the US. My loyalties lie with the USA. Hence, my original post. CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)
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