Iowa Lottery releases names of 'Shipping 20' Powerball winners

Jul 6, 2012, 1:34 pm (94 comments)

Powerball

DES MOINES, Iowa — Iowa Lottery officials have released the names of the 20 Quaker Oats plant workers in Cedar Rapids who recently claimed a share of a $241 million Powerball jackpot.

Lottery CEO Terry Rich issued a statement Friday identifying the 18 men and two women who claimed a $5.6 million share of the prize money last month under the legal umbrella of The Shipping 20 trust.

Lawyers for the trust told Lottery officials June 19 that the members of The Shipping 20 wanted their names to remain confidential to protect their privacy and intended to request a court injunction to that effect. Lottery officials gave the trust 10 business days to seek an injunction to block release of the winners' full names, but Rich said the deadline lapsed Thursday without any legal action being brought, so the identities automatically became public.

"It is our understanding that The Shipping 20 Trust has not filed a petition for an injunction," Rich said as the lottery released the list. "Historically, the lottery has treated the names of its prize winners as public information and we are doing so in this instance as well."

The names and cities of residence of the 18 men and two women who are members of The Shipping 20 are:

From Cedar Rapids:

Tommy Campbell Sr., William Carnahan, Mike Hughes, Denise Hunt, Terry Koopman, David Morgan, Charles Shedek, Gregory Stearns and Rodney Tierney.

From Marion:

Timothy Himmelsbach and Kelly Mulford.

From other eastern Iowa communities:

Daniel Cantonwine of Vinton; Kenneth Cole of Fairfax; Robert Havlik of Toddville; Carol Kremer of Central City; Allen Miller of Shellsburg; Larry Nielsen of Walker; Brent Novak of Shellsburg; Jason Rauch of Ryan; and John Wharton of Keystone.

The union workers in the Quaker plant's shipping department each received about $5.6 million after they turned in a Powerball ticket June 20 that matched the winning numbers for the largest jackpot prize ever won in Iowa since the state lottery started in 1985.

The Shipping 20 group, ranging in age from 35 to 64 and living in and around Cedar Rapids, chose to receive the jackpot as the lump-sum option of $160.3 million — $112 million after federal and state taxes were deducted. At least 11 of the winners indicated they would retire from their jobs now that they have become instant multimillionaires.

Requests for release of the names were made by at least two newspapers under the state's open records law.

Thanks to hearsetrax for the tip.

KCRG

Comments

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Welp, It's all whiskey under the bridge now!

RJOh's avatarRJOh

I didn't see their home addresses, I guess those requesting a share of their money can use the local phone book or just google their names if they don't know them personally.

MississippiMudd

They bought time.  The news report for many of them might really be so-and-so formerly from (pick the town).

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by MississippiMudd on Jul 6, 2012

They bought time.  The news report for many of them might really be so-and-so formerly from (pick the town).

Only two of them bought any real time because 18 of them paraded into Lottery Headquarters to get their picture taken holding the check. If "the Shipping 20" from the Quaker Oats plant wasn't enough info, having their picture taken confirmed their identities. But it was enough time to change their phone numbers to "private" and limited the number of panhandlers.

maximumfun's avatarmaximumfun

Congrats to the winners... may their windfall bring them nothing but joy.

IPlayWeekly's avatarIPlayWeekly

Good for them, hope they do well with the winnings

Cletu$2's avatarCletu$2

I wish them all well.I hope none of them are harrassed to death by the scumsucking degenerates that find some kind of thrill in harrassing lottery winners!

dpoly1's avatardpoly1

Quote: Originally posted by Cletu$2 on Jul 6, 2012

I wish them all well.I hope none of them are harrassed to death by the scumsucking degenerates that find some kind of thrill in harrassing lottery winners!

They are the same scum that wants to raise taxes on the "rich" !

Cletu$2's avatarCletu$2

Quote: Originally posted by dpoly1 on Jul 6, 2012

They are the same scum that wants to raise taxes on the "rich" !

Yeah,I wonder how they'll feel about soaking the rich after they win a jackpot and the feds come in & confiscate 75% of their winnings.

VenomV12

Quote: Originally posted by dpoly1 on Jul 6, 2012

They are the same scum that wants to raise taxes on the "rich" !

You are not rich, in fact you are the exact opposite, so why do you care so much?

Seattlejohn

Interesting.  I wonder why their attorney didn't push forward with filing an injunction; maybe he told them they couldn't win & they just said "eff it!"?  Too bad; this could have been a trend setting case that prevented states from exposing winners to all the creeps, weirdos & scum that a lottery win attracts.  There's got to be some lawyer somewhere who could argue about the safety of the winners being more important than the state forcing them to become public figures...

dallascowboyfan's avatardallascowboyfan

Congratulation to the winners

dpoly1's avatardpoly1

Quote: Originally posted by VenomV12 on Jul 7, 2012

You are not rich, in fact you are the exact opposite, so why do you care so much?

Because I actually understand economics, and I know that economic growth starts at the top!

Petty jealousy of the wealthy is childish!

Actual Economic History proves that slashing taxes gives us enormous economic growth and prosperity. That is how the Wilson Depression was ended by Secretary Mellon!

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golfer1960's avatargolfer1960

Quote: Originally posted by dpoly1 on Jul 7, 2012

Because I actually understand economics, and I know that economic growth starts at the top!

Petty jealousy of the wealthy is childish!

Actual Economic History proves that slashing taxes gives us enormous economic growth and prosperity. That is how the Wilson Depression was ended by Secretary Mellon!

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I agree with you Poly! Somebody has to start the businesses in order for the rest of us to have jobs!

mediabrat's avatarmediabrat

Quote: Originally posted by Cletu$2 on Jul 6, 2012

Yeah,I wonder how they'll feel about soaking the rich after they win a jackpot and the feds come in & confiscate 75% of their winnings.

Oh goody, the paranoid delusionals have come out to play again.  Roll Eyes

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by Seattlejohn on Jul 7, 2012

Interesting.  I wonder why their attorney didn't push forward with filing an injunction; maybe he told them they couldn't win & they just said "eff it!"?  Too bad; this could have been a trend setting case that prevented states from exposing winners to all the creeps, weirdos & scum that a lottery win attracts.  There's got to be some lawyer somewhere who could argue about the safety of the winners being more important than the state forcing them to become public figures...

"I wonder why their attorney didn't push forward with filing an injunction"

Because the "shipping 20" would have to go to court and prove why the injunction should be permanent and by doing so their names would be reveled.

"Too bad; this could have been a trend setting case that prevented states from exposing winners to all the creeps, weirdos & scum that a lottery win attracts."

Iowa has an open public records law and and though highly unlikely, even if the Iowa Supreme Court found that law unconstitutional it would have zero effect on any other state lottery. What about the creeps, weirdos, and scum that continue to draw public assistance after winning a large jackpot; should they be given anonymity so they can keep on collecting benefits?

Littleoldlady's avatarLittleoldlady

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 7, 2012

"I wonder why their attorney didn't push forward with filing an injunction"

Because the "shipping 20" would have to go to court and prove why the injunction should be permanent and by doing so their names would be reveled.

"Too bad; this could have been a trend setting case that prevented states from exposing winners to all the creeps, weirdos & scum that a lottery win attracts."

Iowa has an open public records law and and though highly unlikely, even if the Iowa Supreme Court found that law unconstitutional it would have zero effect on any other state lottery. What about the creeps, weirdos, and scum that continue to draw public assistance after winning a large jackpot; should they be given anonymity so they can keep on collecting benefits?

Really it comes down to economics..they didn't want to paythe  two million or so dollars it would cost..Green laugh

 

Lawyers have to get theirs..

rooster8786

NC requires the winner's name and city & state be published.  The lottery also asks for a picture.  The exception is if you have a protective order in place.  I'm having my attorney use the system, to my advantage, to get a protection order and the lottery can pay me for a picture to market their game when I win...

Artist77's avatarArtist77

Quote: Originally posted by Seattlejohn on Jul 7, 2012

Interesting.  I wonder why their attorney didn't push forward with filing an injunction; maybe he told them they couldn't win & they just said "eff it!"?  Too bad; this could have been a trend setting case that prevented states from exposing winners to all the creeps, weirdos & scum that a lottery win attracts.  There's got to be some lawyer somewhere who could argue about the safety of the winners being more important than the state forcing them to become public figures...

I think the attorney told them it was a long shot and would take a lot of $ to fight it. You can always find an attorney to argue anything (belief in a "colorable" claim) but honest ones are upfront about things being a long shot and a long fight...and there seems to be little to no precedent there to justify a safety claim.  Until more than a few lottery winners get tracked down and killed or injured by a nut (and a direct tie in to their name and address being public info), there is not going to be a real issue of protecting these winners. Wealth is attracting the weirdos, not the lottery per se.

golfer1960's avatargolfer1960

Quote: Originally posted by rooster8786 on Jul 7, 2012

NC requires the winner's name and city & state be published.  The lottery also asks for a picture.  The exception is if you have a protective order in place.  I'm having my attorney use the system, to my advantage, to get a protection order and the lottery can pay me for a picture to market their game when I win...

The exception is if you have a protective order in place.  I'm having my attorney use the system, to my advantage, to get a protection order and the lottery can pay me for a picture to market their game when I win...

willis

Rooster, I don't understand what kind of "order of protection" you need? And how is your lawyer able to get you one out of the blue (and who do you need protection from)? Why would you sell your picture to the lottery?

Your comment is interesting and I'm ignorant. Thanks! Smile

mediabrat's avatarmediabrat

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 7, 2012

"I wonder why their attorney didn't push forward with filing an injunction"

Because the "shipping 20" would have to go to court and prove why the injunction should be permanent and by doing so their names would be reveled.

"Too bad; this could have been a trend setting case that prevented states from exposing winners to all the creeps, weirdos & scum that a lottery win attracts."

Iowa has an open public records law and and though highly unlikely, even if the Iowa Supreme Court found that law unconstitutional it would have zero effect on any other state lottery. What about the creeps, weirdos, and scum that continue to draw public assistance after winning a large jackpot; should they be given anonymity so they can keep on collecting benefits?

An Iowa decision allowing for lottery winners to retain their anonymity may not have an immediate effect on any other state lottery, but it could be used in future court cases as precedent.  It would be a piecemeal effort lasting many years -- basically, any time a winner is adamant enough about remaining anonymous that they're willing to sue their state -- but it could happen.  Emphasis on "could"; standard IANAL disclaimer applies.

gogidolim

Quote: Originally posted by dpoly1 on Jul 7, 2012

Because I actually understand economics, and I know that economic growth starts at the top!

Petty jealousy of the wealthy is childish!

Actual Economic History proves that slashing taxes gives us enormous economic growth and prosperity. That is how the Wilson Depression was ended by Secretary Mellon!

US Flag

 Uh, what's with the flag?

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by rooster8786 on Jul 7, 2012

NC requires the winner's name and city & state be published.  The lottery also asks for a picture.  The exception is if you have a protective order in place.  I'm having my attorney use the system, to my advantage, to get a protection order and the lottery can pay me for a picture to market their game when I win...

I'll get myself a protective order also, for when I win. The state can have my picture for $500,000, direct deposit wired to my checking account.    Yes Nod

Thanks for the tip rooster, now everyone can claim protective orders when they win. Who needs to win the lottery? Just pay us for our mug.  Razz   LOL

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by gogidolim on Jul 8, 2012

 Uh, what's with the flag?

Uh, he probably didn't realize that the flag offends you.

Or, like me, he doesn't care if it offends you.

God Bless America!

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Artist77's avatarArtist77

lol....Seriously though, if something is a news worthy story in a public setting (and not used for a book or something else for profit or artwork belonging to you or being licensed on products) there is typically a right to use your image...no reasonable expectation of privacy.  If a news photographer snaps a picture of you running from a catastrophe, they can use the image in a story without a release as well (as long as you not portrayed in a false light..."Here is John running from a fire that he started.") 

Now if they want to use that image in a book, a work of art, etc. then they need your written permission (and if it is on products for sale like mugs, t-shirts, then you are absolutely entitled to licensing royalties).  I have had my own artwork images used in books and magazines (with my advance permission and a written release) but the standard in the industy in zero royalties for these matters (most artists are just thrillled to have their work selected).

gogidolim

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 8, 2012

Uh, he probably didn't realize that the flag offends you.

Or, like me, he doesn't care if it offends you.

God Bless America!

US FlagUS FlagUS FlagUS FlagUS Flag

 No. Not offending. Just out of place.

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by gogidolim on Jul 8, 2012

 No. Not offending. Just out of place.

That got me to wondering. When or why would our flag ever be out of place? If that's the case, why fly the flag anywhere?

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jul 8, 2012

That got me to wondering. When or why would our flag ever be out of place? If that's the case, why fly the flag anywhere?

Perhaps in a communist or dictatorship country, our flag might be out of place?   Roll Eyes       US Flag

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by mcginnin56 on Jul 8, 2012

Perhaps in a communist or dictatorship country, our flag might be out of place?   Roll Eyes       US Flag

My reference would be the US. I personally don't care about communist or dictatorship countries. Guess I should have made that clearer. I understand that there are members on LP from other countries. LP was founded and is owned by an American in the US. My loyalties lie with the USA. Hence, my original post.

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jul 8, 2012

My reference would be the US. I personally don't care about communist or dictatorship countries. Guess I should have made that clearer. I understand that there are members on LP from other countries. LP was founded and is owned by an American in the US. My loyalties lie with the USA. Hence, my original post.

Then there should be no "out of place" situation for our flag here in the US.  Patriot

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by gogidolim on Jul 8, 2012

 No. Not offending. Just out of place.

No, it's actually not out of place at all.

This is America and that happens to be our flag.

We even pledge allegiance to it.

It goes like this:

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I pledge allegiance to the flag

Of the United States of America

And to the Republic for which it stands

One nation, UNDER GOD, indivisible

With liberty and justice for all

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Patriots love that pledge.

If you hate it and it makes your skin crawl, you know you're a Liberal.

Dead_Aim's avatarDead_Aim

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jul 8, 2012

That got me to wondering. When or why would our flag ever be out of place? If that's the case, why fly the flag anywhere?

Well, if you were watching porn and the young lady had a wooden handled flag waving proudly above her buttock (much like a puppy dog tail) it might seem a little out of place, but if she came into the room with a flag nighty to start with, not so much. Patriot

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by Dead_Aim on Jul 8, 2012

Well, if you were watching porn and the young lady had a wooden handled flag waving proudly above her buttock (much like a puppy dog tail) it might seem a little out of place, but if she came into the room with a flag nighty to start with, not so much. Patriot

LOL. Well, I have to say my imagination isn't quite that strong!

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by Dead_Aim on Jul 8, 2012

Well, if you were watching porn and the young lady had a wooden handled flag waving proudly above her buttock (much like a puppy dog tail) it might seem a little out of place, but if she came into the room with a flag nighty to start with, not so much. Patriot

I suppose there are nuances within these situations, where discretionary judgement needs to be exercised. Although I'm sure our forefathers

had their involvement in sexual rendezvous; Perhaps the flags were not flying quite as proudly, as with other more public occasions.   Patriot

Dead_Aim's avatarDead_Aim

Just breaking the building tension guys with a little so called humor. Enjoy!

mediabrat's avatarmediabrat

Quote: Originally posted by gogidolim on Jul 8, 2012

 Uh, what's with the flag?

Typical tactic of hard-line right-wingers.  They spew their bile and then hide behind the flag under the premise that it shields them from criticism.  Pretty cowardly if you ask me.

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by mediabrat on Jul 8, 2012

Typical tactic of hard-line right-wingers.  They spew their bile and then hide behind the flag under the premise that it shields them from criticism.  Pretty cowardly if you ask me.

Nope.

I checked. 

Nobody asked you.

But I can tell you're one of those whose skin crawls at seeing the flag and hearing the Pledge of Allegiance.

So at least you know what you are.

Just in case you didn't - Mr Lib.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

And far be it from me to suggest that there is!

gogidolim

 Even good ingredients should be used sparingly.

mediabrat's avatarmediabrat

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 8, 2012

Nope.

I checked. 

Nobody asked you.

But I can tell you're one of those whose skin crawls at seeing the flag and hearing the Pledge of Allegiance.

So at least you know what you are.

Just in case you didn't - Mr Lib.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

And far be it from me to suggest that there is!

Thank you for proving my point, you lying, ignorant fool.

Everything you have ever said about me -- and about 50% of this great nation -- has been wrong.  But I get the feeling you enjoy being wrong.

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by mediabrat on Jul 8, 2012

An Iowa decision allowing for lottery winners to retain their anonymity may not have an immediate effect on any other state lottery, but it could be used in future court cases as precedent.  It would be a piecemeal effort lasting many years -- basically, any time a winner is adamant enough about remaining anonymous that they're willing to sue their state -- but it could happen.  Emphasis on "could"; standard IANAL disclaimer applies.

It's an Iowa state law not a lottery rule and that law applies equally to any public record. Every member of the shipping 20 would have to testify in court and to do that they would all have to "state their names" for the court record which is public. There are many people in Iowa that don't want to see their names in the paper for judgments, traffic violations, back child support, DUIs, etc, but it's the law.

"basically, any time a winner is adamant enough about remaining anonymous that they're willing to sue their state -- but it could happen."

But to do that their names would be known and they would get even more publicity. If you have won a large jackpot, tell us the problems you encountered and the steps you took. If you haven't, why worry about something that that only happens to roughly 1 out of 1,000,000 lottery players.

TheGameGrl's avatarTheGameGrl

Stack- you may want to rephrase the response. Its not entirely correct per the IOWA lottery website.

gogidolim

 Look, folks. I love America just as much as my neighbors. But sometimes if you want to flaunt your patriotism you've got to do it with a style. When I express my patriotism I usually wait for the right moment and I display it with humility and modesty.

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by mediabrat on Jul 8, 2012

Thank you for proving my point, you lying, ignorant fool.

Everything you have ever said about me -- and about 50% of this great nation -- has been wrong.  But I get the feeling you enjoy being wrong.

You're a Lib, mediabratwurst, which means you're undoubtedly part of the 47% of the people (though you call it 50%) who don't pay taxes.

I'm part of the 53% who pay all the taxes.

So you got no skin in the game.

And thus, what you think about anything concerning me or my country or my flag doesn't mean a hill of beans to me or anybody else.

And I mean that in a nice way.

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by gogidolim on Jul 8, 2012

 Even good ingredients should be used sparingly.

Not really.

It's always been my experience that you can never add too much garlic.

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by gogidolim on Jul 9, 2012

 Look, folks. I love America just as much as my neighbors. But sometimes if you want to flaunt your patriotism you've got to do it with a style. When I express my patriotism I usually wait for the right moment and I display it with humility and modesty.

"Look, folks. I love America just as much as my neighbors."

Yeah maybe, but let's keep things in perspective here, your neighbors live in California, right? They elected Governor Moonbeam, right? They helped put Obama in the White House, right? Need I say more? I mean, I think you'd have to go to Massachussets to find a populace more anti-American on the whole than California, right?

"When I express my patriotism I usually wait for the right moment and I display it with humility and modesty."

Why? What are you ashamed of? We're the kindest, most charitable, most giving and greatest nation the world has ever known. You should be proud. Let the North Koreans and the Cubans and the Arab Tyrants be humble and modest, we have no reason to be - we're the good guys.

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Rdg and the rest of you political spewing foul mouthsDunk 

lets end this pointless discussion and Agree to the following :

 

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Federation of Planets, and to the galaxy for which it stands, one universe, under everybody, with liberty and justice for all life forms.LOL 

LOLfederation

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by TheGameGrl on Jul 8, 2012

Stack- you may want to rephrase the response. Its not entirely correct per the IOWA lottery website.

Which part was incorrect?

The Shipping 20 has the right under Iowa law to ask for an injunction, "That the examination would substantially and irreparably injure any person or persons." but they would have to prove that AFTER 18 of them got out of bus wearing matching tee shirts and had their pictures taken. I'm not saying a judge wouldn't grant an injunction, but what they did isn't my idea of people wanting to remain anonymous.

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by hearsetrax on Jul 9, 2012

Rdg and the rest of you political spewing foul mouthsDunk 

lets end this pointless discussion and Agree to the following :

 

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Federation of Planets, and to the galaxy for which it stands, one universe, under everybody, with liberty and justice for all life forms.LOL 

LOLfederation

I'll take that pledge Hearse. Although I'm going to need more practice with that Vulcan hand salute.   Let It All Out

 

Maybe now this will be a beginning, in halting the floods of spewing to just a slobbering trickle of sarcasm.    Rant (before)     Sleepy  (after!)

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by hearsetrax on Jul 9, 2012

Rdg and the rest of you political spewing foul mouthsDunk 

lets end this pointless discussion and Agree to the following :

 

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Federation of Planets, and to the galaxy for which it stands, one universe, under everybody, with liberty and justice for all life forms.LOL 

LOLfederation

No thanks.

I'll stay loyal to my own country.

God Bless America!

US Flag

maximumfun's avatarmaximumfun

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jul 9, 2012

Which part was incorrect?

The Shipping 20 has the right under Iowa law to ask for an injunction, "That the examination would substantially and irreparably injure any person or persons." but they would have to prove that AFTER 18 of them got out of bus wearing matching tee shirts and had their pictures taken. I'm not saying a judge wouldn't grant an injunction, but what they did isn't my idea of people wanting to remain anonymous.

I agree Stack - they certainly did not conduct themselves as folk who wanted anonymity... and any judge would look at the 'totality of the situation'... which says... looky looky here... we are the matching named group who calimed the prize (according to the pics)

and I'm with Ridge - I am proud of my country... and what it was and what it could be... not necessarily this hiccup where we are right now...

Epistrophy's avatarEpistrophy

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 9, 2012

"Look, folks. I love America just as much as my neighbors."

Yeah maybe, but let's keep things in perspective here, your neighbors live in California, right? They elected Governor Moonbeam, right? They helped put Obama in the White House, right? Need I say more? I mean, I think you'd have to go to Massachussets to find a populace more anti-American on the whole than California, right?

"When I express my patriotism I usually wait for the right moment and I display it with humility and modesty."

Why? What are you ashamed of? We're the kindest, most charitable, most giving and greatest nation the world has ever known. You should be proud. Let the North Koreans and the Cubans and the Arab Tyrants be humble and modest, we have no reason to be - we're the good guys.

Well said, Ridge.  We are the shining city on the hill, and the three examples you gave are pretty much the opposite of that, so you're right, if anybody should show more humility it's the tyrants in those places.

But I would like to point out that the Golden State is really not as anti-American, or even as liberal, as it's made out to be.  Almost the entire state is fairly moderate to conservative, including beautiful San Diego, a proud home to the Navy and Marines for almost a century.  The problem is that two very densely populated areas, Sodom and Gomor, er, I mean San Francisco and Los Angeles, generally have enough voting power to override the rest of the state's voting.  The voting maps that show results by county really drive this point home.  It's like the rest of the state votes one way and SF and LA say, "Sorry, but we're vetoing that and going with this" but that's the power of concentrated voting blocs at work.

Michigan and New York are similar in that northern Michigan is nothing at all like Detroit, but that's where the voting controls the state's results, and same thing for NY, as Upstate NY is very different than NYC in terms of voting, but the massive population of the biggest city all but negates the rest of the state.

I just don't want people to think that all of California is completely out of its collective mind, it's just the two largest metropolitan areas, and they are certifiable as far as being out of their minds.

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by Epistrophy on Jul 9, 2012

Well said, Ridge.  We are the shining city on the hill, and the three examples you gave are pretty much the opposite of that, so you're right, if anybody should show more humility it's the tyrants in those places.

But I would like to point out that the Golden State is really not as anti-American, or even as liberal, as it's made out to be.  Almost the entire state is fairly moderate to conservative, including beautiful San Diego, a proud home to the Navy and Marines for almost a century.  The problem is that two very densely populated areas, Sodom and Gomor, er, I mean San Francisco and Los Angeles, generally have enough voting power to override the rest of the state's voting.  The voting maps that show results by county really drive this point home.  It's like the rest of the state votes one way and SF and LA say, "Sorry, but we're vetoing that and going with this" but that's the power of concentrated voting blocs at work.

Michigan and New York are similar in that northern Michigan is nothing at all like Detroit, but that's where the voting controls the state's results, and same thing for NY, as Upstate NY is very different than NYC in terms of voting, but the massive population of the biggest city all but negates the rest of the state.

I just don't want people to think that all of California is completely out of its collective mind, it's just the two largest metropolitan areas, and they are certifiable as far as being out of their minds.

Hurray! for orange county, 1 of the 56 conservative counties Thumbs Up

gogidolim

 It's just me you know. I don't think those tyrants will ever become humble, even before the firing squad.

 But I digress. John Watkiss, a terrific oil painter, once claimed that THERE'S NOTHING FINE ABOUT FINE ART. One of his recent works is hundreds of storyboards and keyframe sketches for Sherlock Holmes movies. I don't know why I am typing this, though.

Epistrophy's avatarEpistrophy

Quote: Originally posted by gogidolim on Jul 9, 2012

 It's just me you know. I don't think those tyrants will ever become humble, even before the firing squad.

 But I digress. John Watkiss, a terrific oil painter, once claimed that THERE'S NOTHING FINE ABOUT FINE ART. One of his recent works is hundreds of storyboards and keyframe sketches for Sherlock Holmes movies. I don't know why I am typing this, though.

The length of the hypotenuse of a right triangle can be found using the Pythagorean Theorem, which states that the square of the length of the hypotenuse equals the sum of the squares of the lengths of the other two sides.

I DEFINITELY don't know why I am typing this, except to ask about your John Watkiss segue.  I like his quote about fine art, but I'm at a loss in terms of placing it in context.  Maybe that was your point?  That this thread digressed?  If so, that's true, but it wouldn't be the first or last - that's part of the fun of LP, it's like a box of chocolates...

Forget a firing squad, I would bet that any of those tyrants would be instantly humbled by being put into a room with Michael Madsen's character from "Reservoir Dogs" while "Stuck in the Middle With You" played in the background.

That goes double for Kim Jong Un, who is a chip off the ol' block because Dude Looks Like a Lady just like his insane father.  He would be crying and screaming louder than a preteen girl at a Justin Bieber concert.

Look for "Humbling the Tyrants" this fall as a new reality tv show.

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by gogidolim on Jul 9, 2012

 It's just me you know. I don't think those tyrants will ever become humble, even before the firing squad.

 But I digress. John Watkiss, a terrific oil painter, once claimed that THERE'S NOTHING FINE ABOUT FINE ART. One of his recent works is hundreds of storyboards and keyframe sketches for Sherlock Holmes movies. I don't know why I am typing this, though.

" I don't know why I am typing this, though."

I do.

It's because pens or pencils don't work on a computer.

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Quote: Originally posted by Epistrophy on Jul 9, 2012

Well said, Ridge.  We are the shining city on the hill, and the three examples you gave are pretty much the opposite of that, so you're right, if anybody should show more humility it's the tyrants in those places.

But I would like to point out that the Golden State is really not as anti-American, or even as liberal, as it's made out to be.  Almost the entire state is fairly moderate to conservative, including beautiful San Diego, a proud home to the Navy and Marines for almost a century.  The problem is that two very densely populated areas, Sodom and Gomor, er, I mean San Francisco and Los Angeles, generally have enough voting power to override the rest of the state's voting.  The voting maps that show results by county really drive this point home.  It's like the rest of the state votes one way and SF and LA say, "Sorry, but we're vetoing that and going with this" but that's the power of concentrated voting blocs at work.

Michigan and New York are similar in that northern Michigan is nothing at all like Detroit, but that's where the voting controls the state's results, and same thing for NY, as Upstate NY is very different than NYC in terms of voting, but the massive population of the biggest city all but negates the rest of the state.

I just don't want people to think that all of California is completely out of its collective mind, it's just the two largest metropolitan areas, and they are certifiable as far as being out of their minds.

Good point, Epistrophy.

I've heard the same from Conservatives in Illinois whose votes always seem to get cancelled out by Chicago.

Noted.

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Quote: Originally posted by Epistrophy on Jul 9, 2012

The length of the hypotenuse of a right triangle can be found using the Pythagorean Theorem, which states that the square of the length of the hypotenuse equals the sum of the squares of the lengths of the other two sides.

I DEFINITELY don't know why I am typing this, except to ask about your John Watkiss segue.  I like his quote about fine art, but I'm at a loss in terms of placing it in context.  Maybe that was your point?  That this thread digressed?  If so, that's true, but it wouldn't be the first or last - that's part of the fun of LP, it's like a box of chocolates...

Forget a firing squad, I would bet that any of those tyrants would be instantly humbled by being put into a room with Michael Madsen's character from "Reservoir Dogs" while "Stuck in the Middle With You" played in the background.

That goes double for Kim Jong Un, who is a chip off the ol' block because Dude Looks Like a Lady just like his insane father.  He would be crying and screaming louder than a preteen girl at a Justin Bieber concert.

Look for "Humbling the Tyrants" this fall as a new reality tv show.

LOL, that Kim Jong Un is a trip. They told the people that the first time he played golf, he shot something like 11 holes in one and a bunch of other cool stuff.

My favorite though is that he doesn't defecate - which in this country would lead to an all too obvious punch line followed by a rim shot on the drums.

Epistrophy's avatarEpistrophy

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 9, 2012

LOL, that Kim Jong Un is a trip. They told the people that the first time he played golf, he shot something like 11 holes in one and a bunch of other cool stuff.

My favorite though is that he doesn't defecate - which in this country would lead to an all too obvious punch line followed by a rim shot on the drums.

Oh yeah, the 11 holes in one.  That's a classic.  They should just go ahead and tell people that he can leap tall buildings in a single bound and that he has X-ray vision.

You're right, though, nothing tops the "he doesn't defecate" propaganda.

mediabrat's avatarmediabrat

Quote: Originally posted by hearsetrax on Jul 9, 2012

Rdg and the rest of you political spewing foul mouthsDunk 

lets end this pointless discussion and Agree to the following :

 

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Federation of Planets, and to the galaxy for which it stands, one universe, under everybody, with liberty and justice for all life forms.LOL 

LOLfederation

Live long and prosper.

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by mediabrat on Jul 10, 2012

Live long and prosper.

Amen. Think the prosper has more appeal of the two.

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Quote: Originally posted by gogidolim on Jul 8, 2012

 Uh, what's with the flag?

It is the American Flag!

The symbol of Freedom and Prosperity!

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Quote: Originally posted by mediabrat on Jul 8, 2012

Typical tactic of hard-line right-wingers.  They spew their bile and then hide behind the flag under the premise that it shields them from criticism.  Pretty cowardly if you ask me.

This pablum puking rhetoric is the tactic of the hard-line Fascist left-wingers! They spew their bile, pretty cowardly if you ask me!

Patriot

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 9, 2012

"Look, folks. I love America just as much as my neighbors."

Yeah maybe, but let's keep things in perspective here, your neighbors live in California, right? They elected Governor Moonbeam, right? They helped put Obama in the White House, right? Need I say more? I mean, I think you'd have to go to Massachussets to find a populace more anti-American on the whole than California, right?

"When I express my patriotism I usually wait for the right moment and I display it with humility and modesty."

Why? What are you ashamed of? We're the kindest, most charitable, most giving and greatest nation the world has ever known. You should be proud. Let the North Koreans and the Cubans and the Arab Tyrants be humble and modest, we have no reason to be - we're the good guys.

The 'anti-American' state of California had the most casualties---3,562---and the most deaths---476---of any state during Operation Iraqi Freedom. Not going to bother to check Afghanistan war numbers, but guessing result is the same (yes, it's a big state). I'm also guessing maybe a few came out those 'liberal' hotbeds of Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland, etc., unless you're operating under the illusion only those in Orange County sign up to serve in the armed forces.

Now trot out your phoney flag again, asshat.

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Jul 12, 2012

The 'anti-American' state of California had the most casualties---3,562---and the most deaths---476---of any state during Operation Iraqi Freedom. Not going to bother to check Afghanistan war numbers, but guessing result is the same (yes, it's a big state). I'm also guessing maybe a few came out those 'liberal' hotbeds of Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland, etc., unless you're operating under the illusion only those in Orange County sign up to serve in the armed forces.

Now trot out your phoney flag again, asshat.

LOL  A voice of sanity at last!!!

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Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Jul 12, 2012

The 'anti-American' state of California had the most casualties---3,562---and the most deaths---476---of any state during Operation Iraqi Freedom. Not going to bother to check Afghanistan war numbers, but guessing result is the same (yes, it's a big state). I'm also guessing maybe a few came out those 'liberal' hotbeds of Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland, etc., unless you're operating under the illusion only those in Orange County sign up to serve in the armed forces.

Now trot out your phoney flag again, asshat.

Holy Moly,

The American flag sure can bring out all the anti-Americans nowadays, especially the most vehement traitors, like Bonehead.

Shame you don't like our flag Bonehead, but that's expected from traitors like you.

Funny how someone like you, who is so anti-American and anti-Military likes to trot out casualty statistics to support your argument when it suits you, as if you have any right to use something gained by American Heroes to bolster cowardly slime like you who would hide behind the women and children before coming to the aid of your country.

The American Flag isn't phony Bonehead - you're phony.

You're a gutless coward Bonehead, (as I'm sure your father and grandfather were), of the same caliber as the Queen of New Hampshire, mcdoofus, (the Ru Paul of this site) who's trying to nuzzle his nose up to your nether regions right now. But don't feel special, as he always pledges allegiance to anybody who hates America.

Close your eyes now, you two, I'm going to show the symbol of Freedom that you two hate so much and consider "phony":

       

US Flag GOD BLESS AMERICA!

MADDOG10's avatarMADDOG10

Quote: Originally posted by mediabrat on Jul 8, 2012

Typical tactic of hard-line right-wingers.  They spew their bile and then hide behind the flag under the premise that it shields them from criticism.  Pretty cowardly if you ask me.

All chasing the Green.?

Not unless your Irish, or your camo is hiding the real color

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by MADDOG10 on Jul 15, 2012

All chasing the Green.?

Not unless your Irish, or your camo is hiding the real color

If we could only chase as much GREEN as you've been hittin lately!  Eek   Yes Nod

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 15, 2012

Holy Moly,

The American flag sure can bring out all the anti-Americans nowadays, especially the most vehement traitors, like Bonehead.

Shame you don't like our flag Bonehead, but that's expected from traitors like you.

Funny how someone like you, who is so anti-American and anti-Military likes to trot out casualty statistics to support your argument when it suits you, as if you have any right to use something gained by American Heroes to bolster cowardly slime like you who would hide behind the women and children before coming to the aid of your country.

The American Flag isn't phony Bonehead - you're phony.

You're a gutless coward Bonehead, (as I'm sure your father and grandfather were), of the same caliber as the Queen of New Hampshire, mcdoofus, (the Ru Paul of this site) who's trying to nuzzle his nose up to your nether regions right now. But don't feel special, as he always pledges allegiance to anybody who hates America.

Close your eyes now, you two, I'm going to show the symbol of Freedom that you two hate so much and consider "phony":

       

US Flag GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Here's what you need to know.

The flag is never phony. Only when used by individuals as yourself to badger, intimidate, try to humiliate someone who has different viewpoints as you it is phony---that is, the use of it, by you, in that fashion, is phony.

In fact, the flag was never meant to be associated with people like you. It stands for the opposite of people like you. It's been hijacked, by people like you, to represent something it was not then, is not now, and hopefully never will be.

You speak of cowardace, and you're uniquely qualified to do so. You would evidently label all who served, fought, and died for those country---but who might have voted for a politician or a party other than your preference---as 'anti-American'. Is everyone in California---or Massachusetts--- as you suggested here, 'anti-American', because that state traditionally votes Democrat? Do you actually believe that, or is this just shock-speak designed to elicit some response? That alone would be the act of a coward--saying something just to throw mud on a wall, seeing what might stick, what you can get away with. Like a bigger child might taunt a runt on a playground. A bully. But we all know what happens to bullys. Don't we?

Do I have this wrong? Please enlighten me. Spell it out---are Obama voters, registered Democrats, middle-of-the-roaders, independents, anyone other than maybe a Tea Party-type supporter...are they all 'anti-American' to you? The flag does not represent them? Maybe they should all be rounded up and placed in guarded pens, surrounded by barbed-wire, so the likes of 'real' Americans like you can can get your country back?

Am I close? Or are you just on here pokin' sticks and slingin' dung? Just how completely full of sh*t are you, anyway?

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Jul 15, 2012

Here's what you need to know.

The flag is never phony. Only when used by individuals as yourself to badger, intimidate, try to humiliate someone who has different viewpoints as you it is phony---that is, the use of it, by you, in that fashion, is phony.

In fact, the flag was never meant to be associated with people like you. It stands for the opposite of people like you. It's been hijacked, by people like you, to represent something it was not then, is not now, and hopefully never will be.

You speak of cowardace, and you're uniquely qualified to do so. You would evidently label all who served, fought, and died for those country---but who might have voted for a politician or a party other than your preference---as 'anti-American'. Is everyone in California---or Massachusetts--- as you suggested here, 'anti-American', because that state traditionally votes Democrat? Do you actually believe that, or is this just shock-speak designed to elicit some response? That alone would be the act of a coward--saying something just to throw mud on a wall, seeing what might stick, what you can get away with. Like a bigger child might taunt a runt on a playground. A bully. But we all know what happens to bullys. Don't we?

Do I have this wrong? Please enlighten me. Spell it out---are Obama voters, registered Democrats, middle-of-the-roaders, independents, anyone other than maybe a Tea Party-type supporter...are they all 'anti-American' to you? The flag does not represent them? Maybe they should all be rounded up and placed in guarded pens, surrounded by barbed-wire, so the likes of 'real' Americans like you can can get your country back?

Am I close? Or are you just on here pokin' sticks and slingin' dung? Just how completely full of sh*t are you, anyway?

Wow, Bonehead, you went all out, I really must have struck a nerve or something. It all appears to be your usual nonsense and misspelled drivel though. What's "cowardace" btw?  Is that like the "Ace of Cowards" or something in your family? Which one of you schmucks holds that title? Papaw?

Too late for a cop-out on calling the flag phony, numbnuts. That's whiskey under the bridge. You said it - you own it. Quit sniveling. Be a proud traitor like all the other males in your family.

And upon further review, the rest of your post is just more of the same, isn't it Princess?

And if your intent of including your fellow schmucks in my comments about you, was an attempt to garner their support, go for it, just remember that they're all schmucks like you and would be severely challenged to rub two brain cells together. But know anyway, that all my comments were directed at you, Bonehead.

And if you really want to know how "full of $hit" I am, you can come over and start diggin' out my outhouse. Bring the rest of the "men" in your family too. I'm sure they all have plenty of experience at having to "take $hit" from real men.

And I mean that in a nice way.

 

US FlagGod Bless America!

mediabrat's avatarmediabrat

Quote: Originally posted by MADDOG10 on Jul 15, 2012

All chasing the Green.?

Not unless your Irish, or your camo is hiding the real color

Actually, I am indeed of mostly Irish descent.  Thanks for asking.

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 15, 2012

Wow, Bonehead, you went all out, I really must have struck a nerve or something. It all appears to be your usual nonsense and misspelled drivel though. What's "cowardace" btw?  Is that like the "Ace of Cowards" or something in your family? Which one of you schmucks holds that title? Papaw?

Too late for a cop-out on calling the flag phony, numbnuts. That's whiskey under the bridge. You said it - you own it. Quit sniveling. Be a proud traitor like all the other males in your family.

And upon further review, the rest of your post is just more of the same, isn't it Princess?

And if your intent of including your fellow schmucks in my comments about you, was an attempt to garner their support, go for it, just remember that they're all schmucks like you and would be severely challenged to rub two brain cells together. But know anyway, that all my comments were directed at you, Bonehead.

And if you really want to know how "full of $hit" I am, you can come over and start diggin' out my outhouse. Bring the rest of the "men" in your family too. I'm sure they all have plenty of experience at having to "take $hit" from real men.

And I mean that in a nice way.

 

US FlagGod Bless America!

Yep, there we go. Now there's some hard-hittin', flag-wavin', conservatism at work. Doing the mountain jig around direct questions.

Let's try again---do you believe those who have a different political viewpoint that yours are 'anti-American'? That was your direct phrase there---anti-American. Come on now, you're the straight-shootin' truth-sayer of the Appalacians, ain't ya? Let's see what you have in your musket. I'm beginning to think you're just pretending. Maybe that Walt Whitman deal wasn't any mistake?

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Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Jul 15, 2012

Yep, there we go. Now there's some hard-hittin', flag-wavin', conservatism at work. Doing the mountain jig around direct questions.

Let's try again---do you believe those who have a different political viewpoint that yours are 'anti-American'? That was your direct phrase there---anti-American. Come on now, you're the straight-shootin' truth-sayer of the Appalacians, ain't ya? Let's see what you have in your musket. I'm beginning to think you're just pretending. Maybe that Walt Whitman deal wasn't any mistake?

Holy Moly, Bonehead, now come the racist comments too. You libs really are frauds, ain'tcha boy?

Don't try to generalize the direction of my comments now, sonny boy. They were directed at you and you know it.

You know what you are son, (a gutless coward), and if that makes you feel less of a man, well, then it should, because truth be told, you are  less of a man, just like your Pap and Papaw were before you. The nut didn't roll far from the bush, did it boy? 

And I'll remind you again, if you have a problem with gays, go ahead and let them know.

Don't beat around the bush, Wink Bonehead.

 

Brace yourself now Bonehead, here comes the flag again.

US FlagGod Bless America!

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 15, 2012

Holy Moly, Bonehead, now come the racist comments too. You libs really are frauds, ain'tcha boy?

Don't try to generalize the direction of my comments now, sonny boy. They were directed at you and you know it.

You know what you are son, (a gutless coward), and if that makes you feel less of a man, well, then it should, because truth be told, you are  less of a man, just like your Pap and Papaw were before you. The nut didn't roll far from the bush, did it boy? 

And I'll remind you again, if you have a problem with gays, go ahead and let them know.

Don't beat around the bush, Wink Bonehead.

 

Brace yourself now Bonehead, here comes the flag again.

US FlagGod Bless America!

We're doin' this until we get this right.

You made a comment about anti-Americans from California and Massachusetts. Because of how they vote. Long before I ever joined the fun. It's all there in the thread, for all to see. So, let's have it. Is that what you believe? Yes? No? Maybe? Just kiddin' around? Afraid to answer? Which one? It's not that hard a question.

Tell you what---if it helps you out, I'll even go first---no, even though I may disagree with those who vote differently than me, that's their right and that's what America is really all about.

There. Now, if you can take your mind off all the males in my family---you seem to have whatcha might call a fixation with themLOL---and simpy answer the straight-forward question.

If you have it in ya. I mean, you're the mountain oracle and all....

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Jul 15, 2012

We're doin' this until we get this right.

You made a comment about anti-Americans from California and Massachusetts. Because of how they vote. Long before I ever joined the fun. It's all there in the thread, for all to see. So, let's have it. Is that what you believe? Yes? No? Maybe? Just kiddin' around? Afraid to answer? Which one? It's not that hard a question.

Tell you what---if it helps you out, I'll even go first---no, even though I may disagree with those who vote differently than me, that's their right and that's what America is really all about.

There. Now, if you can take your mind off all the males in my family---you seem to have whatcha might call a fixation with themLOL---and simpy answer the straight-forward question.

If you have it in ya. I mean, you're the mountain oracle and all....

You need to apologize for your racial slur in your previous post, Bonehead. I have a life-long Black friend who would kick your teeth in if you called him that just cuz he grew up in the mountains. Truth be told, he'd probably gutcha and do the time. He served this country and loves our flag (unlike you) and you got no call to be talkin' like that.

Apologize. Do it now.

 

US FlagGOD BLESS AMERICA!

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 15, 2012

You need to apologize for your racial slur in your previous post, Bonehead. I have a life-long Black friend who would kick your teeth in if you called him that just cuz he grew up in the mountains. Truth be told, he'd probably gutcha and do the time. He served this country and loves our flag (unlike you) and you got no call to be talkin' like that.

Apologize. Do it now.

 

US FlagGOD BLESS AMERICA!

I know you're not as dumb as your phony avatar looks.

A 'jig' is a 'dance', but it's interesting you pretend to believe otherwise on here. Maybe your black friend might have a comment about thatYes Nod.

Well, let's try again...I can cut 'n paste all night...

We're doin' this until we get this right.

You made a comment about anti-Americans from California and Massachusetts. Because of how they vote. Long before I ever joined the fun. It's all there in the thread, for all to see. So, let's have it. Is that what you believe? Yes? No? Maybe? Just kiddin' around? Afraid to answer? Which one? It's not that hard a question.

Tell you what---if it helps you out, I'll even go first---no, even though I may disagree with those who vote differently than me, that's their right and that's what America is really all about.

There. Now, if you can take your mind off all the males in my family---you seem to have whatcha might call a fixation with themLOL---and simpy answer the straight-forward question.

If you have it in ya. I mean, you're the mountain oracle and all....

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Jul 15, 2012

I know you're not as dumb as your phony avatar looks.

A 'jig' is a 'dance', but it's interesting you pretend to believe otherwise on here. Maybe your black friend might have a comment about thatYes Nod.

Well, let's try again...I can cut 'n paste all night...

We're doin' this until we get this right.

You made a comment about anti-Americans from California and Massachusetts. Because of how they vote. Long before I ever joined the fun. It's all there in the thread, for all to see. So, let's have it. Is that what you believe? Yes? No? Maybe? Just kiddin' around? Afraid to answer? Which one? It's not that hard a question.

Tell you what---if it helps you out, I'll even go first---no, even though I may disagree with those who vote differently than me, that's their right and that's what America is really all about.

There. Now, if you can take your mind off all the males in my family---you seem to have whatcha might call a fixation with themLOL---and simpy answer the straight-forward question.

If you have it in ya. I mean, you're the mountain oracle and all....

I'm from the south, Bonehead, remember?

I know all the dog-whistle racist code - I've heard it all before.

You ain't foolin' nobody.

Apologize. Do it now.

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 15, 2012

I'm from the south, Bonehead, remember?

I know all the dog-whistle racist code - I've heard it all before.

You ain't foolin' nobody.

Apologize. Do it now.

This is getting mighty sad. All this time, I thought maybe, just possibly, after all the noise and blather from you, all the flotsam and jetsam, you mighta had a backbone and directly owned up to your own words. 

Well, now we know why and how the North won the war, don't we? Green laugh

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Jul 15, 2012

This is getting mighty sad. All this time, I thought maybe, just possibly, after all the noise and blather from you, all the flotsam and jetsam, you mighta had a backbone and directly owned up to your own words. 

Well, now we know why and how the North won the war, don't we? Green laugh

You're beatin' around the bush again, Bonehead.  Sleep

Now apologize. Go ahead, do it now, you'll feel better about yourself.

Pretend your Pap and Papaw are diggin' out my outhouse and you can get 'em out if you apologize.

Poor Pap and Papaw! They're covered in $hit!

 

Close your itzy bitzy eyes now yacky,

Here comes something you really hate:

US FlagGOD BLESS AMERICA!

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Bonehead!

Bonehead!

Where ya at?

Where'd ya go, son?

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

The poor soul...

He was just too high strung, that's all...

mediabrat's avatarmediabrat

Arrowhead has better things to do than to chase you around here 24/7.  Stop acting like you've won whenever anyone decides to step away from the computer to attend to other priorities.

The point Arrowhead has been wasting far too many words trying to get across is this:  Given your persona, it is quite ironic that the picture you have chosen to represent yourself is not of a backwoods, moonshine-swillin' good ol' boy but that of a gay, liberal, Yankee poet.  You have made it quite clear that gays, liberals, and quite possibly Yankees are all anathema to you, so we were all expecting you to find this revelation to be quite disturbing.  (I realize "anathema" is a big word, so I'll wait while you look it up.)  As a liberal Yankee myself, I am rather amused by this development.

Not surprisingly, you instead went into full spin mode, using methods perfected by and demonstrated daily on Fox News.  You somehow expect the good people of Lottery Post to believe instead that Arrowhead is the racist and the homophobe, apparently by using the "he who smelt it, dealt it" doctrine.  Anyone with half a brain would realize this is not true, but that's what your kind does, they tell lies and expect people to be stupid enough to believe them.  Indeed, that's the entire campaign strategy of the GOP this election year:  actively tank the economy, blame Obama, and hope enough people are dumb enough to take their word for it, no questions asked.

Frankly, I don't really care whether or not you really are the hillbilly you would all have us believe you are.  Regardless, the act has worn thin.  Most importantly, just because you can't get punched in the face over the Internet does not give you license to treat people like dirt.

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Quote: Originally posted by mediabrat on Jul 16, 2012

Arrowhead has better things to do than to chase you around here 24/7.  Stop acting like you've won whenever anyone decides to step away from the computer to attend to other priorities.

The point Arrowhead has been wasting far too many words trying to get across is this:  Given your persona, it is quite ironic that the picture you have chosen to represent yourself is not of a backwoods, moonshine-swillin' good ol' boy but that of a gay, liberal, Yankee poet.  You have made it quite clear that gays, liberals, and quite possibly Yankees are all anathema to you, so we were all expecting you to find this revelation to be quite disturbing.  (I realize "anathema" is a big word, so I'll wait while you look it up.)  As a liberal Yankee myself, I am rather amused by this development.

Not surprisingly, you instead went into full spin mode, using methods perfected by and demonstrated daily on Fox News.  You somehow expect the good people of Lottery Post to believe instead that Arrowhead is the racist and the homophobe, apparently by using the "he who smelt it, dealt it" doctrine.  Anyone with half a brain would realize this is not true, but that's what your kind does, they tell lies and expect people to be stupid enough to believe them.  Indeed, that's the entire campaign strategy of the GOP this election year:  actively tank the economy, blame Obama, and hope enough people are dumb enough to take their word for it, no questions asked.

Frankly, I don't really care whether or not you really are the hillbilly you would all have us believe you are.  Regardless, the act has worn thin.  Most importantly, just because you can't get punched in the face over the Internet does not give you license to treat people like dirt.

Yep, grew totally bored with it all. He won't own up to his own statements, constructs phony strawman 'issues', and, in the end, appears to be more interested in outhouses.

When you smack a bully across the face, the wet spot appears down front shortly thereafter. Next comes some yuck-yuck about males in my family and his wet spot...right, mountain-top soothsayer??Big Grin

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Quote: Originally posted by mediabrat on Jul 16, 2012

Arrowhead has better things to do than to chase you around here 24/7.  Stop acting like you've won whenever anyone decides to step away from the computer to attend to other priorities.

The point Arrowhead has been wasting far too many words trying to get across is this:  Given your persona, it is quite ironic that the picture you have chosen to represent yourself is not of a backwoods, moonshine-swillin' good ol' boy but that of a gay, liberal, Yankee poet.  You have made it quite clear that gays, liberals, and quite possibly Yankees are all anathema to you, so we were all expecting you to find this revelation to be quite disturbing.  (I realize "anathema" is a big word, so I'll wait while you look it up.)  As a liberal Yankee myself, I am rather amused by this development.

Not surprisingly, you instead went into full spin mode, using methods perfected by and demonstrated daily on Fox News.  You somehow expect the good people of Lottery Post to believe instead that Arrowhead is the racist and the homophobe, apparently by using the "he who smelt it, dealt it" doctrine.  Anyone with half a brain would realize this is not true, but that's what your kind does, they tell lies and expect people to be stupid enough to believe them.  Indeed, that's the entire campaign strategy of the GOP this election year:  actively tank the economy, blame Obama, and hope enough people are dumb enough to take their word for it, no questions asked.

Frankly, I don't really care whether or not you really are the hillbilly you would all have us believe you are.  Regardless, the act has worn thin.  Most importantly, just because you can't get punched in the face over the Internet does not give you license to treat people like dirt.

Heh, heh,heh,heh,heh...

Ah yes, Chlamydiabrat, another cowardly pansy who while uncertain of his own masculinity likes to dabble in the ridicule of homosexuals while hiding behind the "yankee liberal' label for cover cuz everybody knows  a "yankee liberal" would never have a discouraging word for a homosexual. You're the compassionate, understanding, oh-so-sensitive, touchy-feely, caring nurturers, right? Yeah right, unless you can get the knife in the gay person's back out of sight of the security camera and then blame it on the crazy rightwinger "Ooooh! Ridge's avatar is gay! Everybody! Look! Gay! Gay! Gay!Whitman  was GAY! Conservatives are gay!"  Hypocrite.

I'd have more respect for a schmuck like you if you just came out and said what's on your mind instead of all your pseudo-esoteric blather skirting the real issues in avoidance of your own frailties. Grow a pair and act like a man, you effeminate little twerp.

But being the nutless little girly-man you are, I really don't expect any different. I assume you come from a long line of nutless wonders.

You said:

" Most importantly, just because you can't get punched in the face over the Internet does not give you license to treat people like dirt."

Well, anytime you wanna live out that fantasy of punching me in the face, you let me know - I'll give ya first swing, son, just PM me.

And until then I'll continue to treat you and all the quasi-males in your inbred family like dirt, cuz that's what all of you leg-humping mongrels are to me. Copy?

And I mean that in a nice way.

 

Now get ready, Chlamydiabrat, here comes the part you libs hate.

US FlagGOD BLESS AMERICA!   

Deal with it, son.

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Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Jul 16, 2012

Yep, grew totally bored with it all. He won't own up to his own statements, constructs phony strawman 'issues', and, in the end, appears to be more interested in outhouses.

When you smack a bully across the face, the wet spot appears down front shortly thereafter. Next comes some yuck-yuck about males in my family and his wet spot...right, mountain-top soothsayer??Big Grin

Heh,heh,heh,heh,heh...

Another lib tough guy (on the internet). Heh,heh,heh... Welp, PM me anytime you're feelin froggy son and you'll get the first swing just like I promised that other yankee dancin' boy. You got my word on that.

Hey! Where'd ya go last night, Bonehead? You said we was stayin' here long as it took til you got yer answers, boy. Did ya git 'em? Heh,heh,heh,heh...

I still got yer Pap and Papaw out back diggin' out my outhouse ya know, and they're stayin' there til you apologize for them ol' racial slurs you was a throwin' about last night, Bonehead. And I got good news and bad news about that for ya.

The good news is that yer Pap has finally got his head up out of the butt-mud in the outhouse pit.

The bad news is that he's a standin' on yer Papaw's shoulders!

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

Close yer itzy bitzy eyes, yacky!

US Flag

I pledge allegiance to the flag

Of the United States of America

And to the Republic

For which it stands

One Nation, UNDER GOD, indivisible

With liberty and justice for all.

 

You're squirming, ain'tcha Bonehead?

I knowed it.

Heh,heh,heh,heh,heh...

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 16, 2012

Heh,heh,heh,heh,heh...

Another lib tough guy (on the internet). Heh,heh,heh... Welp, PM me anytime you're feelin froggy son and you'll get the first swing just like I promised that other yankee dancin' boy. You got my word on that.

Hey! Where'd ya go last night, Bonehead? You said we was stayin' here long as it took til you got yer answers, boy. Did ya git 'em? Heh,heh,heh,heh...

I still got yer Pap and Papaw out back diggin' out my outhouse ya know, and they're stayin' there til you apologize for them ol' racial slurs you was a throwin' about last night, Bonehead. And I got good news and bad news about that for ya.

The good news is that yer Pap has finally got his head up out of the butt-mud in the outhouse pit.

The bad news is that he's a standin' on yer Papaw's shoulders!

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

Close yer itzy bitzy eyes, yacky!

US Flag

I pledge allegiance to the flag

Of the United States of America

And to the Republic

For which it stands

One Nation, UNDER GOD, indivisible

With liberty and justice for all.

 

You're squirming, ain'tcha Bonehead?

I knowed it.

Heh,heh,heh,heh,heh...

I already PMed you, and you were duckin' under the covers on there just like you do in a public forum.

Post my....ummm....'threat' LOL to you here, so everyone can see it. Come on, hot shot. Bring it.

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Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Jul 16, 2012

I already PMed you, and you were duckin' under the covers on there just like you do in a public forum.

Post my....ummm....'threat' LOL to you here, so everyone can see it. Come on, hot shot. Bring it.

Listen closely, Bonehead.

You know what you said and what I told you you could do about it if you so desired. There's no secrets here in these threads.

Then you PM me and all of a sudden you're not a tough guy anymore, now you wanna take your hurt feelings to the proverbial Principals Office for mediation like the whimpering, whining crybaby you are. You don't need me if you want to go whine to management. If that's what the leg-humping mongrels you call men in your family do when called out, then go do it. Like I told you privately, I take care of my own business. You initiated all of your perceived problems here, so either live with it, go whine to management or do something about it, Bonehead.

In the meantime though, it hasn't exactly been a good day in the outhouse for your Pap and Papaw either.

The whole family ate at Bob's Burrito Bombs today.   Dead Yes Nod

 

Close your eyes now, Bonehead, here's the part you hate again:

US FlagGOD BLESS AMERICA!

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 16, 2012

Listen closely, Bonehead.

You know what you said and what I told you you could do about it if you so desired. There's no secrets here in these threads.

Then you PM me and all of a sudden you're not a tough guy anymore, now you wanna take your hurt feelings to the proverbial Principals Office for mediation like the whimpering, whining crybaby you are. You don't need me if you want to go whine to management. If that's what the leg-humping mongrels you call men in your family do when called out, then go do it. Like I told you privately, I take care of my own business. You initiated all of your perceived problems here, so either live with it, go whine to management or do something about it, Bonehead.

In the meantime though, it hasn't exactly been a good day in the outhouse for your Pap and Papaw either.

The whole family ate at Bob's Burrito Bombs today.   Dead Yes Nod

 

Close your eyes now, Bonehead, here's the part you hate again:

US FlagGOD BLESS AMERICA!

Hahaha---"You know what you said"----

Again, for the 20th time, POST WHAT I SAID. It's very simple. You said I 'threatened' you. Post my threat. Do it.

You won't do it, just like you won't answer the question about states voting for Democrats being 'anti-American'. Never saw anyone high-tail it like that. Oh, that's right, I used the word 'jig', as in 'dance', and I insulted your black friend. R-i-i-i-i-ght. LOL

You're a lying troll. Actually, you're a phony chicken-sh*t liar, who throws mud on here and can't back anything up.

If I 'threatened' you, I should be booted from Lottery Post. So post it. Right here. Publically. Very direct. Just for once, back up what you say. Come on now, straight-shootin' mountain-top oracle, POST IT.

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Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Jul 17, 2012

Hahaha---"You know what you said"----

Again, for the 20th time, POST WHAT I SAID. It's very simple. You said I 'threatened' you. Post my threat. Do it.

You won't do it, just like you won't answer the question about states voting for Democrats being 'anti-American'. Never saw anyone high-tail it like that. Oh, that's right, I used the word 'jig', as in 'dance', and I insulted your black friend. R-i-i-i-i-ght. LOL

You're a lying troll. Actually, you're a phony chicken-sh*t liar, who throws mud on here and can't back anything up.

If I 'threatened' you, I should be booted from Lottery Post. So post it. Right here. Publically. Very direct. Just for once, back up what you say. Come on now, straight-shootin' mountain-top oracle, POST IT.

Holy Moly, Bonehead, it looks like you're having one of your full-blown Nervous-Nellie Fluster-Fits!

You're coming unhinged, aren't you, Princess?

And just when you were beginning to have delusions of adequacy, huh? 

You poor thing...

My delicate, delicate little flower... 

You know, tinkerbelle, I can help you with your psychosis, but the first thing you have to do is admit that you need help. That's the first step, tinkers. Admitting that you have the problem is the first step on the road to recovery. Do it tink-tink, do it for yourself. You deserve it.

And as you may  know I seem to work well with scatterbrained psychotics like yourself. I seem to have a soothing, calming effect on their psyches. Now try to think of me as a mother hen taking you under my wing where you're all safe and warm and secure from from the icky things that you can't accept in life, like reality. Feel better already, don'tcha? I knew ya would! See how well that works?

But remember, my little munchkin, you have to make that first big step by admitting to yourself that you need help. Then, and only then, can I help you.

But whatever you decide, remember that I'm always here for you, Bonehead.

We all are.

 

US FlagGOD BLESS AMERICA! 

 

 

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Jul 17, 2012

Holy Moly, Bonehead, it looks like you're having one of your full-blown Nervous-Nellie Fluster-Fits!

You're coming unhinged, aren't you, Princess?

And just when you were beginning to have delusions of adequacy, huh? 

You poor thing...

My delicate, delicate little flower... 

You know, tinkerbelle, I can help you with your psychosis, but the first thing you have to do is admit that you need help. That's the first step, tinkers. Admitting that you have the problem is the first step on the road to recovery. Do it tink-tink, do it for yourself. You deserve it.

And as you may  know I seem to work well with scatterbrained psychotics like yourself. I seem to have a soothing, calming effect on their psyches. Now try to think of me as a mother hen taking you under my wing where you're all safe and warm and secure from from the icky things that you can't accept in life, like reality. Feel better already, don'tcha? I knew ya would! See how well that works?

But remember, my little munchkin, you have to make that first big step by admitting to yourself that you need help. Then, and only then, can I help you.

But whatever you decide, remember that I'm always here for you, Bonehead.

We all are.

 

US FlagGOD BLESS AMERICA! 

 

 

Another comment as worthless---and as chicksh*t---as a warm bucket of spit.

You must dance for a living. You sure do enough of it on here.

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