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Lotteries a threat to federal Web poker bill?

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Posted: October 22, 2012, 12:19 pm - IP Logged

I'm not so sure that the (R) will prevail in this anti-gambling deal, Stack. In the end, people have a right to spend their monies where and how they want...and privately. The thing that's getting them is that there's a small percentage of card players that do very, very well and they want TAXES from them. Well, I can understand that. But, the problem is that with the sites not being required to report the players' winnings', there's no way to track anything. I mean, Pick/4 is gambling just as well and anything under $600 isn't in need of being reported...it can be cashed on the spot at any convenience store.

Then, there's the problem of not knowing just how much the player may have lost, either. With so many variables, they need to just leave the internet deal alone. If a person is good enough to win some extra money to take care of some things, then my hat is off to them!!! It's no different than starting a business and being successful. Still, I don't know how they'd address the taxes because this is what it's all about. Actually, it's about the sites more so than the player.

In terms of people being opinionated, that's questionable and borderline between down right racist and hateful. Have you seen the bumper stickers that people are buying in reference to the president's ethnicity? There's nothing political about them at all...it's all racist and about color. I have looked and looked high and low and can't find where (D) take that approach about Gov. Romney. None of the stickers are racist at all...just about his politics. This is the difference...it's pure hate.

Facts: Romney lied about his position on firearms, the Blunt Ammendment, health care, education, and numerous other things on record. Still, there are those who brush all those things aside because they just want him in office as opposed to Obama. Look at his position on the coal factories..."they kill people." He shut that bad boy down, too. In the debate, though, he's so gung ho to save those jobs all of a sudden. Man, the Koch Brothers and Karl Rove, alone, have spent billions in support of getting this guy in office...severely outspending the (D's). Billionaires and Ballot Bandits: How To Steal An Election In Nine Easy Steps...excellent read!!!!

People really just don't want the truth about politics, Stack. They focus solely on the media, and what it reports, instead of digging for the real facts. Some of it is okay and accurate but, one must still be willing to sift through and double check what's being reported. Gov. Romney hates fact checkers and Obama welcomes them...especially in the numbers department. Being better off now as opposed to 2008 is a total unit of measure regarding the ENTIRE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE...not just a few INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE. We're not losing 700,000-800,000 jobs per month and the employment percentage, as a whole, is down and going down as we speak. These are FACTS.

Likewise, Obama's plan to further reduce the deficit via taxes is questionable due to the amount of wealthy people being targeted to pull the extra weight. Lots of work to do there, no doubt. However, they've also made it very clear that Romney's plan is completely unobtainable in all (1) points...not (5) points 'cause there ain't (5) points. I find it very strange that what Romney plans to abolish in terms of health care is already what Massachussets is using. But he (they) hate what's being implemented...really? 

Gov. Romney is, in fact, a very very good man. He's just sincerely lying, and wrong, about what he says he's planning to do.

 

L.L.

"Being better off now as opposed to 2008 is a total unit of measure regarding the ENTIRE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE...not just a few INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE."

The Presidential election is a race to 270 electoral votes and this election will be decided in about 8 "swing states". Will the auto workers in Ohio and anyone whose job is related to the auto industry vote for Romney when his plan was to have private investors take over the debt and dismantle the GM and Chrysler? How many seniors in Florida will vote for him after his "47%" remarks to a group of millionaires?

"We're not losing 700,000-800,000 jobs per month and the employment percentage, as a whole, is down and going down as we speak. These are FACTS."

I was unemployed for almost a year and a half starting in 1978, but when I was called back to work my wages were frozen and I went another three years without a raise. I wasn't better off than I was five years before, but I wasn't worse off either.

In that year the economy boomed by the effect of Reaganomicis which included deficit spending and we finally got a raise in pay on par with the cost of living. That deficit wasn't created because banks were failing and the government was force to make good on the loans they guaranteed and Wall Street bailouts caused by a previous administration.

The effects of the Reagan era deficits weren't evident until the Bush administration when the Gulf War was put on a credit card, the economy stumbled and Bush was forced to raise taxes. In the next eight years the economy made a come back and we had budget surpluses. Lowering taxes, putting two more wars on the credit card and terrible economic judgment by the next administration is why we lost 700,000 to 800,000 jobs a month at the beginning of the Obama administration.

"I find it very strange that what Romney plans to abolish in terms of health care is already what Massachussets is using. But he (they) hate what's being implemented...really?"

Romney wants each state to createl a health care plan like the Massachusetts model, but what seems to work in Massachusetts, but will it work in Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, or Arkansas? The last time I looked those states are solid red and I seriously doubt any of them want to model a health care plan of a solid blue state.

This topic is about the effect online lottery sales will have on the Internet poker bill but quickly changed when apparently someone thought my posting the facts on banning all forms of Internet gambling was done to convince 2008 McCain voters to switch. That's like assuming posting the Bush comments on "Voodoo economics" would convince the the 1976 Gerald Ford voters to switch to Jimmy Carter in 1980. 

If anybody believes the facts I posted and the number of times I posted them will change any minds, they must not have very much confidence in their candidate.

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    Posted: October 22, 2012, 2:55 pm - IP Logged

    I'm not so sure that the (R) will prevail in this anti-gambling deal, Stack. In the end, people have a right to spend their monies where and how they want...and privately. The thing that's getting them is that there's a small percentage of card players that do very, very well and they want TAXES from them. Well, I can understand that. But, the problem is that with the sites not being required to report the players' winnings', there's no way to track anything. I mean, Pick/4 is gambling just as well and anything under $600 isn't in need of being reported...it can be cashed on the spot at any convenience store.

    Then, there's the problem of not knowing just how much the player may have lost, either. With so many variables, they need to just leave the internet deal alone. If a person is good enough to win some extra money to take care of some things, then my hat is off to them!!! It's no different than starting a business and being successful. Still, I don't know how they'd address the taxes because this is what it's all about. Actually, it's about the sites more so than the player.

    In terms of people being opinionated, that's questionable and borderline between down right racist and hateful. Have you seen the bumper stickers that people are buying in reference to the president's ethnicity? There's nothing political about them at all...it's all racist and about color. I have looked and looked high and low and can't find where (D) take that approach about Gov. Romney. None of the stickers are racist at all...just about his politics. This is the difference...it's pure hate.

    Facts: Romney lied about his position on firearms, the Blunt Ammendment, health care, education, and numerous other things on record. Still, there are those who brush all those things aside because they just want him in office as opposed to Obama. Look at his position on the coal factories..."they kill people." He shut that bad boy down, too. In the debate, though, he's so gung ho to save those jobs all of a sudden. Man, the Koch Brothers and Karl Rove, alone, have spent billions in support of getting this guy in office...severely outspending the (D's). Billionaires and Ballot Bandits: How To Steal An Election In Nine Easy Steps...excellent read!!!!

    People really just don't want the truth about politics, Stack. They focus solely on the media, and what it reports, instead of digging for the real facts. Some of it is okay and accurate but, one must still be willing to sift through and double check what's being reported. Gov. Romney hates fact checkers and Obama welcomes them...especially in the numbers department. Being better off now as opposed to 2008 is a total unit of measure regarding the ENTIRE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE...not just a few INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE. We're not losing 700,000-800,000 jobs per month and the employment percentage, as a whole, is down and going down as we speak. These are FACTS.

    Likewise, Obama's plan to further reduce the deficit via taxes is questionable due to the amount of wealthy people being targeted to pull the extra weight. Lots of work to do there, no doubt. However, they've also made it very clear that Romney's plan is completely unobtainable in all (1) points...not (5) points 'cause there ain't (5) points. I find it very strange that what Romney plans to abolish in terms of health care is already what Massachussets is using. But he (they) hate what's being implemented...really? 

    Gov. Romney is, in fact, a very very good man. He's just sincerely lying, and wrong, about what he says he's planning to do.

     

    L.L.

    Holy. Moly.

    If I was a Democrat I would ask you to kindly not be on my side.

    Listen, Lucky Loser, no hard feelings, seriously, but to those of us whose passion is politics, it is exceedingly easy to spot someone who doesn't know what the hell they're talking about concerning politics and is desperately trying to look like they do. 

    You can't go your whole life detached, uninterested and uninvolved in a particular subject and then because you're mad at somebody come back with an act that you're an expert on that subject and take the opposite side of the person you're mad at. It just doesn't work, seriously.

    It's obvious to anyone with even a cursory knowledge of politics that you've never been interested in it before now.

    Your little essay above, long on verbiage as it is, is reminiscent of Leroy Fick's son explaining to his father the fine points of making a fortune off collectibles bought at full retail in a pawn shop and then stored in an $80 a night motel room. Do you follow me? It just doesn't work. And anybody in the field of collectibles would spot it in an instant. Cuz he didn't know what the hell he was talking about. That's all I'm sayin'.   

    I would advise you to study up on politics and follow it for awhile before trying to come off as the elder statesman on the subject.

    Cuz it ain't workin'.


                                                 
                         
                                             

     

     

     

     

                                                                                                       

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      Lucky Loser's avatar - bucks
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      Posted: October 22, 2012, 4:34 pm - IP Logged

      Holy. Moly.

      If I was a Democrat I would ask you to kindly not be on my side.

      Listen, Lucky Loser, no hard feelings, seriously, but to those of us whose passion is politics, it is exceedingly easy to spot someone who doesn't know what the hell they're talking about concerning politics and is desperately trying to look like they do. 

      You can't go your whole life detached, uninterested and uninvolved in a particular subject and then because you're mad at somebody come back with an act that you're an expert on that subject and take the opposite side of the person you're mad at. It just doesn't work, seriously.

      It's obvious to anyone with even a cursory knowledge of politics that you've never been interested in it before now.

      Your little essay above, long on verbiage as it is, is reminiscent of Leroy Fick's son explaining to his father the fine points of making a fortune off collectibles bought at full retail in a pawn shop and then stored in an $80 a night motel room. Do you follow me? It just doesn't work. And anybody in the field of collectibles would spot it in an instant. Cuz he didn't know what the hell he was talking about. That's all I'm sayin'.   

      I would advise you to study up on politics and follow it for awhile before trying to come off as the elder statesman on the subject.

      Cuz it ain't workin'.

      LMAO! If a frog could keep his a** from hittin' the ground every time it hopped, it wouldn't need to stop so often either. Far...very far from an expert, ridge. Don't need to be one, either. I know math and how to crunch numbers very well. You know, those things that matter to all politicians. I suppose I'm also detached, uninterested, and uninvolved with motorsports, athletics, grilling...etc. etc because I don't talk about 'em. Shame on me, buddy. As well, if I did share facts about the above mentioned subjects, I'd be trying ever so hard to appear that I know what I'm talkin' about. Might wanna clean that crystal ball off a little.

      Now, who am I mad at? 'Cause I sure as hell don't know. Not that you'd care, but I'm not even the slightest angry with you. I say what I feel whether it's in agreement or disagreement with anyone. Even when, or, if I decide to "return fire" I'm far from even being remotely close to upset. I don't allow politics to have that affect on me, although I do become displeased at times with both sides. Here, at LP, I'm smiling 99% of the time as I'm posting...like right now and let me tell you why.

      See, I enjoy reading your posts, ridge. For a while, I was trying to figure out which cartoon character your personality, avatar, and posting style best matched. I narrowed it down to between the Tazmanian Devil and Fog Horn Leg Horn! I'm from the old school when it comes to cartoons as you can see. Every single time I read your latest post, I read it with Fog Horn's voice in my head and it's funny as hell because it works!!!

      Check this out: "If I was Demo...I say, if I was a Democrat, boy, I would ask you to kindly not be on my side."

      LMAO, again!!! Life is way too short not to laugh as much as possible, buddy!! Okay, I'm waiting...gonna have a drink, too.

       

      L.L.

       

       

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