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NY brothers claim $5M win from '06 lottery ticket

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Posted: October 17, 2012, 10:51 am - IP Logged

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    Posted: October 17, 2012, 10:54 am - IP Logged

    I smell a rat.

    Do you think there is some foul play with the brothers?

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      Posted: October 17, 2012, 11:02 am - IP Logged

      I'm with you. Something smells fishy! Not saying the winners did anything but.....   Who waits 6 years during an awful econ. like this to cash in on a huge lifeline like this?  Why wait 11days before the end of the game?  The ticket was purchased at the Parents store.   How easy would it be for them to tell a customer the winning ticket was only worth $20 and pocket the ticket.  Then wait to see if the customer realizes the mistake...and if they do just say sorry and hand the ticket back.  After 6 years who is going to remember no video would still exist so they can come up with a story about waiting to get everything in order and cash the ticket.  What some people won't do for a couple Million bucks........

       

       

      BSOn the other Hand I'm probably full of it!!  LOL    Congrats to the winners.

      A good reason to forbid family members or employees buying tickets from their own place.

      This doesn't come close to passing the smell test.


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        I'm with you. Something smells fishy! Not saying the winners did anything but.....   Who waits 6 years during an awful econ. like this to cash in on a huge lifeline like this?  Why wait 11days before the end of the game?  The ticket was purchased at the Parents store.   How easy would it be for them to tell a customer the winning ticket was only worth $20 and pocket the ticket.  Then wait to see if the customer realizes the mistake...and if they do just say sorry and hand the ticket back.  After 6 years who is going to remember no video would still exist so they can come up with a story about waiting to get everything in order and cash the ticket.  What some people won't do for a couple Million bucks........

         

         

        BSOn the other Hand I'm probably full of it!!  LOL    Congrats to the winners.

        Well said   petergrfn,

        exacly what I was thinking.............


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          Posted: October 17, 2012, 11:10 am - IP Logged

          A good reason to forbid family members or employees buying tickets from their own place.

          This doesn't come close to passing the smell test.

          I Agree! If they REALLY want tickets they can get them at a different store.

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            Posted: October 17, 2012, 12:17 pm - IP Logged

            This is why I have a problem with employees buying at the store they work at. I seen this too many times in NYC stores. $20 rolls come in the next day they are finish and not many customer buy. I had employee them me they scratch 10 or more and how terrible the roll was. In one store they was selling the losers I assumes since the tickets numbers were out of order and roll was ripped up like they had #001-003 then you #015 was by itself and so forth. Many games was like that. I believe they when through the whole row and left the buds. Called NY to complain many time and they don't care. I only play at vending machines and place I know the tickets are not being tampered with.

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              Posted: October 17, 2012, 12:42 pm - IP Logged

              That game was still around last year.  Three weeks ago i watched a lady tell the clerk what tickets she wanted and had him scratch/scan to see if they were winners. She was gone before i got to talk to her. Also notified some other peeps that they were throwing away second chance tics. The vending machines are a good start, but they need to do a better job protecting players, especially the older ones.

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                Posted: October 17, 2012, 1:17 pm - IP Logged

                nobody would wait 6 years to collect this kind of a win.  combined with the fact that they "bought" the ticket from their own parents' store pretty much says to me they were waiting til the last minute so nobody would figure out the truth.

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                  Posted: October 17, 2012, 3:21 pm - IP Logged

                  I think there's going to be more to this story.

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                    nobody would wait 6 years to collect this kind of a win.  combined with the fact that they "bought" the ticket from their own parents' store pretty much says to me they were waiting til the last minute so nobody would figure out the truth.

                    I agree.  I think it's very likely that they pulled a switch on the true winner but needed to wait to make sure the truth didn't come out. Looks like they are going to get away with it too. Any video tape is long since gone and I'm sure the real winner has forgotten redeeming a ticket six years ago and even if he/she did remember, there is no way to prove it now. I'm sure the Lottery realizes that the brothers are pulling a fast one but apparently after looking into their claim for months have found nothing to show that the claim is fradulent.

                    It was always in the stars for me to be a lottery winner.

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                      Posted: October 17, 2012, 4:36 pm - IP Logged

                      I smell a rat.

                      I wish there was a "like" button because you took the words right out of my mouth.

                      Alright, my turn.

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                        I smell a rat.

                        I Agree!

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                          Posted: October 17, 2012, 5:45 pm - IP Logged

                          I agree w/ all who think there's something wrong w/ this,

                          if the lottery  has to pay this cause there's no video, they'll need to make changes.

                          for example, videos will have to be kept longer, or expiration would change to 1 year from when tix. were sold,

                          if they scan a ticket they know when that ticket was sold.

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                            Posted: October 17, 2012, 6:04 pm - IP Logged

                            I am going to say outright the lottery may have erred in paying the claim and that the Ashkars are more likely not the legitimate owners of the ticket, against my preffered tone which is: the lottery erred in paying the claim, and that the Ashakrs are not the legitimate owners of the ticket.

                            The time delay in presenting the ticket for claim, while legal, suggested absence of confidence in ownership, and clear fear of lottery and  public challenge to any mounted claim.

                            The Ashkars said:

                            " The reason for the delay, according to the lottery's news release: Ashkar was concerned that the winning ticket "could negatively influence his life if he did not plan properly before being publicly introduced." "

                            " Ashkar said he did not want the winning ticket to influence his engagement and then marriage, according to the news release."

                            The statement is weak and poor, and does not add up with the very aim and motive behind a lottery ticket purchaser, which is, to win the grand prize in the very game that they had purchased a ticket for. So, it is severely unlikely that the Ashkars did not know, understand, what they were doing, and its implications.

                            The article said:

                            "The younger brother also said that during that time, he decided to share his winnings with his brother, Nayel, to show his appreciation for all that Nayel had done for him during his life,"

                            The above claim of Ashkar's younger brother is not only untrue but extremnly weak, and is a carefully calculated ploy designed to influence the un-informed and the naive with a hypocritical claim of a bleeding heart of charity, to reward his older brother with $2.5m for what he has done for him in life, while the heavier and greater priority for his parents, the very people that channelled the beginnings of his existence on earth and supported his early weaknesses and helplessness, remain discarded and relegated aside, as they continue to slave away dangerously in a run-down store that was unlikely to have brought in $50,000 in net profits after all expense, at the end fo each year during the past 6 years, in a though neiborhood.

                            The names Nayel and Ashkar are Parsi, from Iran, and from all indications the family background of the store owners and the presumed winners are Iranian origins. 

                            The vast majority of party stores in tough US neighborhoods in the east coast and midwest are owned, run and operated by immigrants from the middle east and South Asia.

                            A significant population of immigrants to the USA carry, and gladly extend the benefits of their earnings in the  USA with family, and extended family, and communities of origins, wherever there are on the this planet.

                            Many lottery winners, regardless of national origins have often cited members of their families as the priority for the distribution of their newly found wealth. It is just highly un-likely that Nayel Ashkar would dump half his winnings into his older brother,  just like that, even after 6 years of mental exercises, and planning on how to write the script and tale, of how he came into possession of a scrtach-off ticket worth $5.0m that Syracuse  NYwill buy.

                            I beleive that New York Lottery players need more explanations from their lottery commision, board or authority about the lottery's payment of $5m 6years after the ticket was purchased, and based on such instruments as sworn affidavits, which are legal but are consistently used by lawyers to swaive the course of justice and to defeat the application and realization of justice, whereever there are needed.

                            The whole claim is a negation of the successes of the Iowa lottery with the attempted claim of a winning $14M or so Hot Lotto ticket, by a New York attorney across America in Des Moins.

                            If the Ashkars are not the legitimate owners of the ticket, then let Karma bring to bear upon them, far more appropriate penalties than the state could ever imagine or able to do, by law

                            If the Ashkars are the legitimate owners of the ticket, then let Karma allow them to enjoy the benefits of the ticket.

                            Whoever is the true owner of this tciket, let the payments made by the lottery come back to them, from who ever has the funds, now.


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                              Posted: October 17, 2012, 6:06 pm - IP Logged

                              Tickets are not scanned when they are sold and a lot of tickets come from vending machines. What the states could easily do is program the terminals to make a different and distinct sound anytime larger prize tickets are checked by the clerk. 

                              In a casino its imposable to win over a couple hundred bucks without everyone in sight knowing because of the sound. The terminals already make noise, but make no distinction between $5. and $5 million winners.

                                 
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