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NY brothers claim $5M win from '06 lottery ticket

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Factorem's avatar - candle

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Posted: October 17, 2012, 6:26 pm - IP Logged

nobody would wait 6 years to collect this kind of a win.  combined with the fact that they "bought" the ticket from their own parents' store pretty much says to me they were waiting til the last minute so nobody would figure out the truth.

I agree.

And I think that the Ashkars, and the lottery should now be legitimate targets for public investigation, by both the FBI and the US Department of Justice.


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    Posted: October 17, 2012, 6:35 pm - IP Logged

    Surly the lottery tracks the location of such large tickets and knows where they were sold......

    Store owners should be required to publicly post notice of the sale of all large winning tickets.

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      Posted: October 17, 2012, 6:36 pm - IP Logged

      I smell a rat.

      I agree.

      And the Ashkars, the New York Lottery should both be investigated by the US Department of Justice and the FBI for possible breach of public trust in making payments on an instrument that is marred and laced with all-around signes and signposts, that something serious is wrong with ticket ownership claims, history, and tendered oral affidavits.

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        I agree.

        And the Ashkars, the New York Lottery should both be investigated by the US Department of Justice and the FBI for possible breach of public trust in making payments on an instrument that is marred and laced with all-around signes and signposts, that something serious is wrong with ticket ownership claims, history, and tendered oral affidavits.

        Something is very very strange here.  No reasonable/normal person waits 6 years. I wonder if perhaps an elderly relative might have won and they waited for him/her to die...the only scenario I can come up with...lol

        Just as the bird sings or the butterfly soars,

        because it is his natural characteristic,

        so the artist works.

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          Something is very very strange here.  No reasonable/normal person waits 6 years. I wonder if perhaps an elderly relative might have won and they waited for him/her to die...the only scenario I can come up with...lol

          Or someone brought in a ticket and said "Will you check this please" and the clerk replied, "You won $20."

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            Posted: October 17, 2012, 6:45 pm - IP Logged

            I think there's going to be more to this story.

            I agree.

            Everything about this story, or more precisely about the payment made by Syracuse, calls for more serious defenses than the complicit bureua has allowed to be shared with a thinking worl,  as the non-frivolous explanation for possibly allowing, and authorizing a fraud.

            The trend is now set, for now. Any store clerk can keep a winning ticket and just copy the Ashkars story line plot, and apply it to themselves two week before expiration.


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              Posted: October 17, 2012, 6:51 pm - IP Logged

              If they did steal the ticket I have to wonder if they felt sorry for the person every time they came back into the store or they laughed at him for being so stupid that he didn't know a winning ticket when he saw one?

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                Or someone brought in a ticket and said "Will you check this please" and the clerk replied, "You won $20."

                But wait 6 years??? The wait time alone guarantees a lot of people will be raising questions. So maybe the winner was elderly/sick and died.  Just call me Nancy Drew.  Book One.."The Mystery of the  Six Year Old Lottery Ticket." I just need to pack my suitcase with 3 crisp linen dresses, call my football player boyfriend Ned and hop in my convertible and drive to the "winning" store to investigate.

                Just as the bird sings or the butterfly soars,

                because it is his natural characteristic,

                so the artist works.

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                  Posted: October 17, 2012, 6:54 pm - IP Logged

                  I would guess that its a regular customer who would suspect them and make a claim.

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                    I would guess that its a regular customer who would suspect them and make a claim.

                    Right..they waited for the person to die. Bet he/she was elderly.

                    Just as the bird sings or the butterfly soars,

                    because it is his natural characteristic,

                    so the artist works.

                    by Alma  Gluck

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                      Posted: October 17, 2012, 7:02 pm - IP Logged

                      I agree.  I think it's very likely that they pulled a switch on the true winner but needed to wait to make sure the truth didn't come out. Looks like they are going to get away with it too. Any video tape is long since gone and I'm sure the real winner has forgotten redeeming a ticket six years ago and even if he/she did remember, there is no way to prove it now. I'm sure the Lottery realizes that the brothers are pulling a fast one but apparently after looking into their claim for months have found nothing to show that the claim is fradulent.

                      I agree with all that you have said and I join your comments:

                      The New York Lottery board's credibility as a genuine custodian of the public trust should be suspended, until Syracuse, NY tells the world the true story of why it paid $5m money to the Ashkars with a decrepitude claim and a defective law.

                      I feel that an independent body in NY should organize, conduct research, collect petittions and sworn affidavits and challenge the lottery, with the same types of intruments that they had relied upon to pay $5m to a questionable holder.

                      The credibity and reliability of the Ashkars' claim is missing, bad faid abounds, and complicity is the  replacementt name for the NY lottery.


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                        Posted: October 17, 2012, 7:08 pm - IP Logged

                        Yeah, or at least wait til they stop coming into the store. Thats one customer they were happy to lose. lol.


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                          I agree with all that you have said and I join your comments:

                          The New York Lottery board's credibility as a genuine custodian of the public trust should be suspended, until Syracuse, NY tells the world the true story of why it paid $5m money to the Ashkars with a decrepitude claim and a defective law.

                          I feel that an independent body in NY should organize, conduct research, collect petittions and sworn affidavits and challenge the lottery, with the same types of intruments that they had relied upon to pay $5m to a questionable holder.

                          The credibity and reliability of the Ashkars' claim is missing, bad faid abounds, and complicity is the  replacementt name for the NY lottery.

                          The lottery investigated, found no wrong doing and awarded the prize. Case closed my friend.....

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                            Posted: October 17, 2012, 7:18 pm - IP Logged

                            But wait 6 years??? The wait time alone guarantees a lot of people will be raising questions. So maybe the winner was elderly/sick and died.  Just call me Nancy Drew.  Book One.."The Mystery of the  Six Year Old Lottery Ticket." I just need to pack my suitcase with 3 crisp linen dresses, call my football player boyfriend Ned and hop in my convertible and drive to the "winning" store to investigate.

                            This would make a good short story for a book!  I think the more likely answer is they brothers may have done some investigating into the Law and found the Statute of Limitiations for Theft in NY is probably 5-6 years.  So even if somehow there was any evidence of their wrongdoing no charges can be brought against them......


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                              May they live happily ever after, without the interference of envious conspiracy theorists.  Cussing Face

                                 
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