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NY brothers charged in plot to steal $5M New York Lottery ticket

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HaveABall's avatar - rocket

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Posted: November 15, 2012, 4:09 am - IP Logged

No, the person is not Mideastern, his name is Robert Miles, he's a black man.

Very nice smile, a $5,000,000 smile now lolBig Smile

 

The lottery has documents that supports his story on how he purchased the winning ticket

but they did not elaborate on what those documents were. They also have

very credible witnesses.

 

Back in 2006 the guy was a regular customer at Grean Ale Market.

(doesn't it seem like clerks steal from their "regular" customers?)

Just goes to show, doesn't matter how long you have frequented a store

that clerk is NOT YOUR FRIEND!!!

 

A friend of the winner said he knew both brothers but they claim they have no

idea who he is. (took his money and forgot about him already?)

 

Another reason for the delay is that gambling is against their

religion. (I'm sure stealing is too!!!)

Sage stuff, Nikkicute, thanks! Puke

Having millions of dollars in my financial accounts means more, consistent fun for me.Lovies

    Nikkicute's avatar - nnjx1k
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    Winning moment

    Miles recalled the day in 2006 when he bought the ticket. It was his lunchtime ritual to buy as much as $200 worth of scratch-off lottery tickets, he said.

    Miles scratched off the ticket and knew that he’d hit the jackpot with this $20 scratch-off — $5 million. In the store, he gave the ticket to Andy Ashkar, who scanned it and told him it was only worth $5,000, Miles said.

    Then Ashkar said the store was charging $1,000 to cash it, and gave Miles $4,000, Miles said.

    Miles started to protest, but Ashkar ran out the door with the ticket, said he was taking it to the lottery office downtown, then jumped in a car and sped away, Miles said.

    “I was running down the street behind the car, yelling,” Miles said. “A lot of people seen me yelling at him.”

    Miles admitted he was in no condition to fight that day. He’d gotten high on crack cocaine the night before, he said.

    “I knew, I knew,” he said, referring to the $5 million value of the ticket. “But that day, it wasn’t a good day for me.”

     He said he no longer uses drugs. He’s held a steady job as a maintenance man for years, raised two children and helped raise three stepdaughters.

     He never complained to the police or lottery officials about the Ashkars because, he said, it would’ve been their word against his until someone came forward to claim the money.

    Miles said he went back into the Green Ale Market once, shortly after the day he turned in the winning ticket.

    “Y’all did me wrong,” he said he told the Ashkars’ parents, Wafa and Nayef Ashkar. “They said, “What you talking about?’”

    He said he asked them why they never posted a sign saying he’d won $5,000 in the lottery, as they usually did with a winner that big.

    “They just brushed me off,” Miles said.

    Miles never played scratch-off lottery games after that day, he said. He never confronted the Ashkars again because he’s a spiritual man, he said.

    “On the day that they did that to me, God spoke to me and said, ‘You know, I’m gonna double that,’” Miles said. “So I knew one day it was gonna come out and people were gonna believe what I was saying.”

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    Well...congrats on getting off drugs!! Getting your life together, holding down a job and raising family.

    Cocaine + Winning Lottery Ticket + Theif = a 6 year wait.

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      Posted: November 15, 2012, 6:59 am - IP Logged

      Glad to see the real winner get what's rightfully his and hopefully the POS brothers will get what's coming to them (jail time.)

      Unfortunately, I get the feeling that the winner will be broke in a few short years as he seems like an easy mark for swindlers.


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        Posted: November 15, 2012, 7:44 am - IP Logged

        Glad to see the real winner get what's rightfully his and hopefully the POS brothers will get what's coming to them (jail time.)

        Unfortunately, I get the feeling that the winner will be broke in a few short years as he seems like an easy mark for swindlers.

        Sadly, your probably right. Jester Laugh

        I could see him buying IPO's for exporting green cheese from the Moon.  Hyper

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          Posted: November 15, 2012, 8:05 am - IP Logged

          "The two largest and most trusted printing operations are owned by Scientific Games and GTECH,

          which also happen to be two of the most popular draw game vendors." 

           

          "The vendor knows which packs contain the high-tier winners. The lottery doesn't.

          And vice versa for where the packs are shipped. As long as that balance is preserved, everything is kosher."

           

          http://www.businessinsider.com/an-insider-shares-the-secrets-of-the-state-lottery-2012-3#comments

          Thanks Nikkicute,that was the answer I was looking for.

          When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it. ~Clarence Darrow

          There ought to be one day - just one - when there is open season on senators. ~Will Rogers

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            Posted: November 15, 2012, 8:08 am - IP Logged

            Thanks Nikkicute,that was the answer I was looking for.

            Your welcomeApprove

            Lottery seems fair in the scratch offs, just have to be in the right

            store at the right time to win.

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              Posted: November 15, 2012, 12:27 pm - IP Logged

              Don't you find it odd that after six years the lottery commision was able to find the guy that was the rightfull owner. How does that even work? Second how would john doe prove that he purchased the ticket? Third i wasn't aware that stores keep six years of security footage. Smells a little fishy on both ends.

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                Posted: November 15, 2012, 2:32 pm - IP Logged

                Don't you find it odd that after six years the lottery commision was able to find the guy that was the rightfull owner. How does that even work? Second how would john doe prove that he purchased the ticket? Third i wasn't aware that stores keep six years of security footage. Smells a little fishy on both ends.

                If you smelled a rat like Ronnie316, you'd be on to something!  Beaver

                 But since you only smell a fish, your at a dead end.  Dead

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                  Posted: November 15, 2012, 2:39 pm - IP Logged

                  Don't you find it odd that after six years the lottery commision was able to find the guy that was the rightfull owner. How does that even work? Second how would john doe prove that he purchased the ticket? Third i wasn't aware that stores keep six years of security footage. Smells a little fishy on both ends.

                  Wow, you missed the entire story! Start with page 1.

                  The lottery released the story of the brothers collecting the win after the 6 years in the hopes

                  the real winner would come forward. They have not stated how exactly they know his story is true

                  but they have documents and witnesses to prove his story, no mention of security footage.

                   

                  Just look up the story and you'll see the guy knew they somehow ripped him off and

                  it's been eating away at him for years.

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                    Posted: November 15, 2012, 2:45 pm - IP Logged

                    Wow, you missed the entire story! Start with page 1.

                    The lottery released the story of the brothers collecting the win after the 6 years in the hopes

                    the real winner would come forward. They have not stated how exactly they know his story is true

                    but they have documents and witnesses to prove his story, no mention of security footage.

                     

                    Just look up the story and you'll see the guy knew they somehow ripped him off and

                    it's been eating away at him for years.

                    Yeah. I raised these very same points 5 pages back.

                     

                    Likely he was in the store with someone who recalled the incident.

                     

                    He may have still been a regular and worked with the lottery to entrap those scully wags.

                     

                    And as someone suggested in response to my original post, he was probably able to provide banking documents when he received the 4k from the Bozo Twins.

                    "Everything works  ONCE!"

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                      Posted: November 15, 2012, 4:57 pm - IP Logged

                      Wow, you missed the entire story! Start with page 1.

                      The lottery released the story of the brothers collecting the win after the 6 years in the hopes

                      the real winner would come forward. They have not stated how exactly they know his story is true

                      but they have documents and witnesses to prove his story, no mention of security footage.

                       

                      Just look up the story and you'll see the guy knew they somehow ripped him off and

                      it's been eating away at him for years.

                      Sorry i didn't read the comments or the entire story.

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                        Posted: November 15, 2012, 5:05 pm - IP Logged

                        Sorry i didn't read the comments or the entire story.

                        You didn't miss much, just another store clerk ripping off another dumb lottery player.......


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                          Posted: November 15, 2012, 5:30 pm - IP Logged

                          You didn't miss much, just another store clerk ripping off another dumb lottery player.......

                          So many dumb lottery players.....so few clerks.  Big Grin

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                            Posted: November 15, 2012, 6:02 pm - IP Logged

                            You didn't miss much, just another store clerk ripping off another dumb lottery player.......

                            This time ... Drugs = Delayed mental and physical reactions, Delayed lottery jackpot receival, Loss of Hundreds of Thousands of dollars investment interest.

                            How did this ending lottery partial-jackpot collector/"spiritual man" get $200 regularly for scratch-offs, was it the same place he got thousands of dollars to obtain cocaine and possibly other drugs?

                            Maybe none of this bizarre stuff matters.  Is low cost big money (net $2M+) weird or what? Pumpkin

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                              Posted: November 15, 2012, 6:17 pm - IP Logged

                              This time ... Drugs = Delayed mental and physical reactions, Delayed lottery jackpot receival, Loss of Hundreds of Thousands of dollars investment interest.

                              How did this ending lottery partial-jackpot collector/"spiritual man" get $200 regularly for scratch-offs, was it the same place he got thousands of dollars to obtain cocaine and possibly other drugs?

                              Maybe none of this bizarre stuff matters.  Is low cost big money (net $2M+) weird or what? Pumpkin

                              Guess it's what makes this world go round.

                              Sometimes there is no rhyme or reason for what happens.   Crazy

                                 
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