NY brothers charged in plot to steal $5M New York Lottery ticket

Nov 14, 2012, 8:07 am (223 comments)

New York Lottery

They waited until shortly before the $5 million winning ticket in a scratch-off lottery game would have been worthless. Then, when two brothers from the Syracuse area went to claim the prize, they made an unusual offer: They told state lottery officials that they would be happy to take home less than the full amount if they could avoid a news conference.

(See NY brothers claim $5M win from '06 lottery ticket, Lottery Post, Oct. 17, 2012.)

The officials made them wait some more, saying a security check had to be completed before the big payday.

But "security check" turned out to be another name for an investigation that ultimately led to the brothers' arrest on Tuesday on larceny and other charges. The authorities said the two brothers had tricked the actual winner, a customer at their parents' convenience store.

The brothers — Andy Ashkar, 34, and Nayel Ashkar, 36 — were charged with attempted grand larceny and conspiracy. The Onondaga County district attorney, William J. Fitzpatrick, said in a statement that Andy Ashkar was also charged with criminal possession of stolen property, the ticket in the "$500 Million Extravaganza" game, sold in October 2006.

Andy Ashkar told the buyer at the time that it was only a $5,000 winner and, after pocketing $1,000 as a "fee," gave the man $4,000, according to the statement from Mr. Fitzpatrick.

Mr. Fitzpatrick said in the statement that when the Ashkars went to the lottery's headquarters in Schenectady in March of this year, they were told they would have to wait for the "security check."

The next milestone mentioned in Mr. Fitzpatrick's statement was an article last month in The Post-Standard of Syracuse about the Ashkars and the winning ticket — a story Mr. Fitzpatrick said "was actually put out by the lottery security division in an effort to have the real winner come forward." Other news outlets including The Associated Press also carried the report, based on a news release from the lottery's communications office.

John Lammers, the enterprise editor of The Post-Standard, said the newspaper assigned two reporters to the story because the editors wondered why the lottery had disclosed so much in a news release. Usually, he said, the lottery waits to announce a winner's identity at a news conference.

"Nobody put a fast one over on us," he said. "We were suspicious of this from the get-go. Something was going on.

"We put it on the front page because of all the red flags, and our readers got it immediately."

The lottery's news release said Andy Ashkar had bought the ticket but had waited to redeem it "out of concern that the winning ticket could negatively influence his life if he did not plan properly before being publicly introduced."

"Most notably," the news release said, "Ashkar said he did not want the winning ticket to influence his engagement and subsequent marriage." The release also said that Andy Ashkar wanted to share the money with his brother "to show his appreciation for all that Nayel had done for him during his life."

Carolyn Hapeman, a spokeswoman for the lottery, said at the time that it was "unusual" for the lottery "to send out a prerelease about an upcoming winner event." The news release said the lottery "requires" players who win $1 million or more to attend a news conference.

"We've been getting a lot of calls about this particular ticket and these individuals," she said on Oct. 17, "and rather than anybody question 'Is it true? Is it true?' we sent out what we know thus far." On Tuesday, she referred questions about the case to Mr. Fitzpatrick's office.

His statement said the false release had served its purpose; the real winner had come forward "and will hopefully be awarded his actual winnings pending the conclusion of the case against the Ashkar brothers."

There was no answer at the Ashkar family's store or at their homes.

As for the real winner, the authorities did not release his name.

NY Times

Comments

Jill34786's avatarJill34786

Just unbelievable! their entire story was skeptical from the start.

mcginnin56

All's well that ends well.    Lover

Nikkicute's avatarNikkicute

Don't mess with New York!!!!! lol

 

Just finished watching Good Morning America, the man who won said he

was confused by all of the zero's and always felt he was cheated somehow.

 

You see how GREEDY they were? Said they would give him $5,000 to avoid taxes

then charged a $1,000 "fee" and gave him $4,000j!!!! $1,000 "fee" for what!!!!

whoo greed is UGLY!!!!

jamella724

This is the saddest thing about cheating, if you are bad and your intentions are bad, you will end up in jail.  These two brothers will just pay what they did...stealing money is still a bad idea.

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

Yeah he didn't want to ruin his engagement and subsequent marriage to his lovely bride. JAIL would do that to a romance!

Cletu$2's avatarCletu$2

I wonder if the Ashkars are any relation to the Patel clan?

OldSchoolPa's avatarOldSchoolPa

Ronnie316 was the first one in LP to say, "I smell a rat" and "sounds fishy to me". Congrats NY Lottery for catching another fraudulent claim and returning the winnings to the rightful lucky lottery player. I think that winner would be due interest since they should be able to determine the date he/she received the bogus $4,000 payout from the brothers.

li hate scratchoffs...for me, they have been nothing but worthless pieces of hard card paper.  Got my eye on that $5,000 per Week For Life but I feel better about taking the astronomical odds playing the online games since I don't have to be in the right store at the right time to purchase the right scratch-off game...just let my 6 numbers match and I AM RICH B-YATCH!

Win$500Quick's avatarWin$500Quick

If it doesn't makke sense, It's not true.

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by OldSchoolPa on Nov 14, 2012

Ronnie316 was the first one in LP to say, "I smell a rat" and "sounds fishy to me". Congrats NY Lottery for catching another fraudulent claim and returning the winnings to the rightful lucky lottery player. I think that winner would be due interest since they should be able to determine the date he/she received the bogus $4,000 payout from the brothers.

li hate scratchoffs...for me, they have been nothing but worthless pieces of hard card paper.  Got my eye on that $5,000 per Week For Life but I feel better about taking the astronomical odds playing the online games since I don't have to be in the right store at the right time to purchase the right scratch-off game...just let my 6 numbers match and I AM RICH B-YATCH!

Ronnie316 was right on the money!  Hurray!

Next time I suspect rats are infesting my home, I will be calling him first.  Beaver

Nikkicute's avatarNikkicute

Quote: Originally posted by OldSchoolPa on Nov 14, 2012

Ronnie316 was the first one in LP to say, "I smell a rat" and "sounds fishy to me". Congrats NY Lottery for catching another fraudulent claim and returning the winnings to the rightful lucky lottery player. I think that winner would be due interest since they should be able to determine the date he/she received the bogus $4,000 payout from the brothers.

li hate scratchoffs...for me, they have been nothing but worthless pieces of hard card paper.  Got my eye on that $5,000 per Week For Life but I feel better about taking the astronomical odds playing the online games since I don't have to be in the right store at the right time to purchase the right scratch-off game...just let my 6 numbers match and I AM RICH B-YATCH!

Good shout out to Ronnie316!!!!

The brothers said they'd be willing to take less money to avoid a news conference!

Seriously? Who does that?


As many members here on L.P. worried about remaining anonymous, would you take LESS MONEY

just so your name would not get out there? I don't think so!!!! I'd ALL my money and forget about

my name in the press!!  Deal with it!!

Marconis's avatarMarconis

Reading this pissed me off. Poor guy, but at least now he can have some peace of mind. I hope jail goes terribly for them.

magic 007

Like i said back then " Ticket no good, i throw away for you " and i was castigated by factorem for being a "racist" ok Mr Factorem , where are you now, show your face. I rest my case......

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by magic 007 on Nov 14, 2012

Like i said back then " Ticket no good, i throw away for you " and i was castigated by factorem for being a "racist" ok Mr Factorem , where are you now, show your face. I rest my case......

Good point magic 007, we have all had to deal with money grubbing dishonest shopkeepers at some time.

dallascowboyfan's avatardallascowboyfan

Put them away for a long time sorry SOB.........Glad the real winner will receive his winnings.

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by mcginnin56 on Nov 14, 2012

Ronnie316 was right on the money!  Hurray!

Next time I suspect rats are infesting my home, I will be calling him first.  Beaver

Perhaps I should open shop as "Ronnie PI" and your rats will be my first customers mcginnin56What?

petergrfn

Quote: Originally posted by Marconis on Nov 14, 2012

Reading this pissed me off. Poor guy, but at least now he can have some peace of mind. I hope jail goes terribly for them.

As a warning to any other Gas Station Clerks who decide to rip off customers.....If I was the true winner of the $5 Million I might "Donate" a few hundred bucks to a couple of inmates canteen accounts anonymously and make sure the brothers get the "Extra" Treatment in Prison!  LOL   Bash      On the other hand they will probably lose their store and spend many years in prison so they will be far worse off than if they had just thrown the ticket away.

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by Nikkicute on Nov 14, 2012

Good shout out to Ronnie316!!!!

The brothers said they'd be willing to take less money to avoid a news conference!

Seriously? Who does that?


As many members here on L.P. worried about remaining anonymous, would you take LESS MONEY

just so your name would not get out there? I don't think so!!!! I'd ALL my money and forget about

my name in the press!!  Deal with it!!

Thanks Nikkicute.

I think your right....

if they had just walked in and picked up the check no one would have been the wiser.....

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by petergrfn on Nov 14, 2012

As a warning to any other Gas Station Clerks who decide to rip off customers.....If I was the true winner of the $5 Million I might "Donate" a few hundred bucks to a couple of inmates canteen accounts anonymously and make sure the brothers get the "Extra" Treatment in Prison!  LOL   Bash      On the other hand they will probably lose their store and spend many years in prison so they will be far worse off than if they had just thrown the ticket away.

It was the parents store, so likely no one will lose anything....

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by petergrfn on Nov 14, 2012

As a warning to any other Gas Station Clerks who decide to rip off customers.....If I was the true winner of the $5 Million I might "Donate" a few hundred bucks to a couple of inmates canteen accounts anonymously and make sure the brothers get the "Extra" Treatment in Prison!  LOL   Bash      On the other hand they will probably lose their store and spend many years in prison so they will be far worse off than if they had just thrown the ticket away.

I would be willing to bet those boys don't have to do ANY time in jail for their offences....

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by Win$500Quick on Nov 14, 2012

If it doesn't makke sense, It's not true.

I remember the original story saying there was no wrong doing and the winnings were paid.... What?

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by Jill34786 on Nov 14, 2012

Just unbelievable! their entire story was skeptical from the start.

I Agree!    Cinderella story Yes Nod

Ronnie316

On a positive note...... at least the investigators had some work to do for a few months......What?

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Nov 14, 2012

I would be willing to bet those boys don't have to do ANY time in jail for their offences....

I Agree! 1st offence, monies given to the rightful winner. At best they'll do 6 months community service recycling scratch offs for 2nd chance drawings

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by Original Bey on Nov 14, 2012

I Agree! 1st offence, monies given to the rightful winner. At best they'll do 6 months community service recycling scratch offs for 2nd chance drawings

Good point, and what a great service to the community getting rid of all those "losing" tickets... lol.

Cletu$2's avatarCletu$2

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Nov 14, 2012

I would be willing to bet those boys don't have to do ANY time in jail for their offences....

On the other hand,they may run into a judge who is tough on crime and end up in prison for a whole lot of years.At least thats what I hope happens!

RedStang's avatarRedStang

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Nov 14, 2012

I would be willing to bet those boys don't have to do ANY time in jail for their offences....

Andy faces 25 and his brother faces 15. I have a feeling the lotto will try to make an example of them if the law allows. Hard to believe he's a manager at a Toyota dealership.

bigboy90000

I hope they like getting booty raped .

petergrfn

Quote: Originally posted by Original Bey on Nov 14, 2012

I Agree! 1st offence, monies given to the rightful winner. At best they'll do 6 months community service recycling scratch offs for 2nd chance drawings

It doesn't matter if the rightful winner gets the money.  The Brothers still committed the crimes!  They made a scheme to defraud the lottery winner. They then turned in the ticket to the lottery commission.  That makes it Criminal Possesion.  Even if this is their first offense they CAN NOT prove that the ticket was worth LESS than $1 Million that makes it First Degree Grand Larceny!  That's Mandatory Min. sentencing territory.    They will do a few years IF they are lucky and make a plea.  Any Lawyer worth his salt's first word to these two should be you absolutely want to AVOID a Jury Trial.....

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

Quote: Originally posted by petergrfn on Nov 14, 2012

It doesn't matter if the rightful winner gets the money.  The Brothers still committed the crimes!  They made a scheme to defraud the lottery winner. They then turned in the ticket to the lottery commission.  That makes it Criminal Possesion.  Even if this is their first offense they CAN NOT prove that the ticket was worth LESS than $1 Million that makes it First Degree Grand Larceny!  That's Mandatory Min. sentencing territory.    They will do a few years IF they are lucky and make a plea.  Any Lawyer worth his salt's first word to these two should be you absolutely want to AVOID a Jury Trial.....

Time will tell. I'm sure the 3rd segment of this fiasco will be published on LP in short order.

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by bigboy90000 on Nov 14, 2012

I hope they like getting booty raped .

That would be a rather stiff penalty.... don't you think?? What?

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by Cletu$2 on Nov 14, 2012

On the other hand,they may run into a judge who is tough on crime and end up in prison for a whole lot of years.At least thats what I hope happens!

As our country progresses we should become more sensitive of those accused of a crime........ 

The offence in question may not even be a criminal offence, and therefore NOT a crime AT ALL.

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Nov 14, 2012

As our country progresses we should become more sensitive of those accused of a crime........ 

The offence in question may not even be a criminal offence, and therefore NOT a crime AT ALL.

Sounds like your going soft, what happened to your erection for crime.  What?

Nikkicute's avatarNikkicute

Quote: Originally posted by mcginnin56 on Nov 14, 2012

Sounds like your going soft, what happened to your erection for crime.  What?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Green laughoh my goodness!

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by mcginnin56 on Nov 14, 2012

Sounds like your going soft, what happened to your erection for crime.  What?

Criminals are human, and have rights.......Yes Nod

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by mcginnin56 on Nov 14, 2012

Sounds like your going soft, what happened to your erection for crime.  What?

I think that's LottoBoners dept. You may want to check with him on that.....  Wink

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Nov 14, 2012

Criminals are human, and have rights.......Yes Nod

How silly of me.....I must have missed that class in college.  Big Grin

jeffrey's avatarjeffrey

remember this, the quikimart and the habib who works there is not your friend.

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by mcginnin56 on Nov 14, 2012

How silly of me.....I must have missed that class in college.  Big Grin

Ahhh yes, your catching on my friend. There are so many wonderful things you can learn in a class room that are not at all dependent or even relevant to what is happening in the real world......... 

Its a kind of Dungeons and Dragons, fantasy role playing situation...... If you will.... 

TwitchBlue Thinking

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by jeffrey on Nov 14, 2012

remember this, the quikimart and the habib who works there is not your friend.

In fact, quite the opposite I think........

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by jeffrey on Nov 14, 2012

remember this, the quikimart and the habib who works there is not your friend.

We have no friends at any lottery store.

It is us against them.  Boxing

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Nov 14, 2012

Ahhh yes, your catching on my friend. There are so many wonderful things you can learn in a class room that are not at all dependent or even relevant to what is happening in the real world......... 

Its a kind of Dungeons and Dragons, fantasy role playing situation...... If you will.... 

TwitchBlue Thinking

I understand now. Until the suspected criminals are prosecuted, they are our friends and countrymen.  Love

The should be allowed into our homes as guests of honor.  Patriot

surimaribo24's avatarsurimaribo24

akshars joining the patels hope they get their asses drilled in jail .

petergrfn

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Nov 14, 2012

Criminals are human, and have rights.......Yes Nod

Obviously.  The fact that the two brothers haven't been dragged into the town square and hung directly after finding out the stole the ticket shows they have their rights.  But while the "Accussed" have their rights so does the victim.  Their is FAR MORE evidence of these two brothers guilt than innocence at this point but they still have the right to trial by jury.  I don't think being the avid lottery player I am I could be an impartial juror knowing what I know about clerks taking peoples tickets.  Even if they are convicted though they will recieve a far more equitable sentence then they would in many 3rd world countries where stealing over $1 Million dollars from somone else could result in death or having your hands chopped off.    Still they are innocent until proven guilty.

So I'm sure when they show up to court looking like choir boys and have their Mom telling the Judge that they were such Good Boys who give to orphans and such they could still be found Not Guilty.   We Will See.....

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by surimaribo24 on Nov 14, 2012

akshars joining the patels hope they get their asses drilled in jail .

I've got some leftover Vaseline I could spare, if it would make the drilling job go a little smoother.  Big Grin Santa

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by mcginnin56 on Nov 14, 2012

Sounds like your going soft, what happened to your erection for crime.  What?

thats a sore subject with ronnie Yes Nod

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by mcginnin56 on Nov 14, 2012

We have no friends at any lottery store.

It is us against them.  Boxing

Thumbs UpI Agree!

Jill34786's avatarJill34786

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Nov 14, 2012

I remember the original story saying there was no wrong doing and the winnings were paid.... What?

I Agree! The brothers turned the ticket in back in March and apparently the NY Lottery did their 6-7 month investigation claiming EVERYTHING checked out before announcing the winner in October. I have no idea why they didn't publicize this back in March in order to allow the news media to print it? The true winner would have claimed his winnings that much sooner.

IPlayWeekly's avatarIPlayWeekly

Hope they get life

mcginnin56

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Nov 14, 2012

thats a sore subject with ronnie Yes Nod

There are pills that will address that problem.

If the desired effects should last more than six hours however, please contact your doctor immediately. Or admit yourself into your hospital ER.  Thumbs Up

VenomV12

Ha Ha, I and others called it from the beginning. I can't believe some of the imbeciles on here that actually thought that this was legitimate and that someone would wait 6 years to claim a $5 million ticket. 

Stay in school please and get an education. 

savagegoose's avatarsavagegoose

heres a tip, of you are confused by the number of zeros on your ticket; take it to the local  lotto HQ. not your local min wage worker.

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by VenomV12 on Nov 14, 2012

Ha Ha, I and others called it from the beginning. I can't believe some of the imbeciles on here that actually thought that this was legitimate and that someone would wait 6 years to claim a $5 million ticket. 

Stay in school please and get an education. 

I Agree! This was an easy call........

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by Jill34786 on Nov 14, 2012

I Agree! The brothers turned the ticket in back in March and apparently the NY Lottery did their 6-7 month investigation claiming EVERYTHING checked out before announcing the winner in October. I have no idea why they didn't publicize this back in March in order to allow the news media to print it? The true winner would have claimed his winnings that much sooner.

Perhaps the investigators being the government workers that they are, needed an extra 6 months of work?

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by VenomV12 on Nov 14, 2012

Ha Ha, I and others called it from the beginning. I can't believe some of the imbeciles on here that actually thought that this was legitimate and that someone would wait 6 years to claim a $5 million ticket. 

Stay in school please and get an education. 

Imagine 6 years of trying to come up with something to say at Lottery office. And when the day finally comes all you have to say is....  "You can keep some of the money if you don't tell anyone that I won this"......

What baffoons.........EvilPonder

Candy-S

How can this be ... waiting 6 years to claim a lottery prize?  I thought New York lottery prizes had to be claimed within ONE year of the game.   Most states have 6 months time limit to claim a prize.(a few have one year limit)    If you don't submit the winning ticket in that time frame ... you get NOTHING.

Ronnie316

If they had a game plan for ripping someone off, why did thet say it was a $5000. winner and not just give them $500. Or even $50.????

Cletu$2's avatarCletu$2

Quote: Originally posted by Candy-S on Nov 14, 2012

How can this be ... waiting 6 years to claim a lottery prize?  I thought New York lottery prizes had to be claimed within ONE year of the game.   Most states have 6 months time limit to claim a prize.(a few have one year limit)    If you don't submit the winning ticket in that time frame ... you get NOTHING.

This was explained in the original story.The game had so many losing tickets that it took the entire 6 years to sell all of the tickets.

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by Candy-S on Nov 14, 2012

How can this be ... waiting 6 years to claim a lottery prize?  I thought New York lottery prizes had to be claimed within ONE year of the game.   Most states have 6 months time limit to claim a prize.(a few have one year limit)    If you don't submit the winning ticket in that time frame ... you get NOTHING.

The game went on and on because of the outstanding winning ticket........

and the 6 month deadline doest start til THE END OF THE GAME.............

No telling how much extra cash the state of NY raked in because of the missing ticket.....

Of course the state knew it had been sold but kept selling worthless tickets to the public.

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by Cletu$2 on Nov 14, 2012

This was explained in the original story.The game had so many losing tickets that it took the entire 6 years to sell all of the tickets.

Games end when the big WINNERS are all gone.... NOT the losers......

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