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NY brothers charged in plot to steal $5M New York Lottery ticket

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Posted: November 14, 2012, 7:03 pm - IP Logged

Like i said back then " Ticket no good, i throw away for you " and i was castigated by factorem for being a "racist" ok Mr Factorem , where are you now, show your face. I rest my case......

I am right here in full face!.

 

Your remark ramains a racist statement, as a person's knowledge of English does not imply criminal bahavior capabilities. The charges against these brothers is about theft, and are independent of their language skills.

In this case as it turns out, there was no offer to throw away a ticket, or a claim that it was altogether no good. 

If you go back and read my posts back in October, you will be able to confirm that I wrote vociferiously against what these two brothers did, and serioudsly got on the case of Syracuse NY for complicity in paying out

Mcginnin56 wrote back to me in words "Sour grapes", while his tag-team partner in lottery post war mongering, ronnie316 told me to get over it, as the NY lottery has made its decision.

Well, you can read foryourself as it turned out, I was not alone in my position and today's story remains a vindication that the position and views that I had espoused and written about, in October on this matter was positively correct.

 


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    Posted: November 14, 2012, 7:19 pm - IP Logged

    I am right here in full face!.

     

    Your remark ramains a racist statement, as a person's knowledge of English does not imply criminal bahavior capabilities. The charges against these brothers is about theft, and are independent of their language skills.

    In this case as it turns out, there was no offer to throw away a ticket, or a claim that it was altogether no good. 

    If you go back and read my posts back in October, you will be able to confirm that I wrote vociferiously against what these two brothers did, and serioudsly got on the case of Syracuse NY for complicity in paying out

    Mcginnin56 wrote back to me in words "Sour grapes", while his tag-team partner in lottery post war mongering, ronnie316 told me to get over it, as the NY lottery has made its decision.

    Well, you can read foryourself as it turned out, I was not alone in my position and today's story remains a vindication that the position and views that I had espoused and written about, in October on this matter was positively correct.

    I Agree! Except for calling people racist.........


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      Posted: November 14, 2012, 7:38 pm - IP Logged

      I saw a guy doing the scratchie thing today.  Quite feverishly.  I was there to place my 363 str8.  He was sctratching all feverishly like a crack addict and then he took the scanner to the machine.  I was on the machine and double checking my free plays, as I was cleaning my room today and found six of them.  So I let the guy go in front of me.  The funny thing about scratch offs is there is a bar code on the front and on the back, and I never know which one to scan.

      So the guy is scanning the front of his scratchie and the machine wont read it.  Before I can suggest to scan the other side he takes it to the clerk and asks "Can you check this for me"?

      Temptation.

      The real question is.  Are convenience store really so convenient?

      People buying milk and cigarettes are inconvenient for lottery players. 

      Not to mention QuickDraw.

      I saw two separate players downing $100 in three separate consecutive draws.  I was in at the cutoff for my Jackpot game, and there he was with 20 cards at the counter.

      Now if there was a line of people buying milk, then I can predict a small chance of that player climbing over the counter to get to the terminal to get his bet in on time. 

      The atmosphere in a convenience store ( forgive me this word convienent is giving me trouble as for as spelling is concerned)

      is frenetic at best when there are multiple lottery players in there. 

      Online internet playing is the MOST CONVIENENT solution.  There should be choice.  Business is about choice.  I choose to not go into the vipers den.  I prefer lottery from the safety of my bed.

      And all scratchie players must be wrangled and flogged.


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        Posted: November 14, 2012, 7:43 pm - IP Logged

        Thats why I use THIS............

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          Posted: November 14, 2012, 7:54 pm - IP Logged

          This kind of stuff happens cause ppl. from other countries think americans are stupid.....did'nt work this time.

          Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds    -- Charles Mackay  LL.D.


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            This kind of stuff happens cause ppl. from other countries think americans are stupid.....did'nt work this time.

            Some cultures teach lying and cheating as an acceptable means of gaining an advantage , which comes in real handy upon entering America where we are taught to tell the truth and trust people.......

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              Posted: November 14, 2012, 8:07 pm - IP Logged

              I am so glad that the con has been called out and the thieves arrested. Most of us knew it was a con from the get-go.

              I suspect the trial will be long and messy unless they don't have money for a good lawyer. 

              Good lawyers can convince jurors that up is really down Bang Head

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                Posted: November 14, 2012, 8:22 pm - IP Logged

                Some cultures teach lying and cheating as an acceptable means of gaining an advantage , which comes in real handy upon entering America where we are taught to tell the truth and trust people.......

                Ronnie hit the nail on the head here.  Americans are taught to trust people first (often over our own instincts) and it gets us in trouble sometimes.

                Just as the bird sings or the butterfly soars,

                because it is his natural characteristic,

                so the artist works.

                by Alma  Gluck

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                  Posted: November 14, 2012, 8:28 pm - IP Logged

                  I am so glad that the con has been called out and the thieves arrested. Most of us knew it was a con from the get-go.

                  I suspect the trial will be long and messy unless they don't have money for a good lawyer. 

                  Good lawyers can convince jurors that up is really down Bang Head

                  I don't expect much of a trial.  If their attorney is worth anything, she/he will plea for some lesser offense or term reduction since this is a losing case. And since a number (all perhaps?) of people on any potential jury (even if they don't play the lottery) have likely once have dreamed of winning a jackpot, if only for a second, and this realization that this crime could happen to them, will make this an easy conviction. Going to trial is too big a risk for these criminals.

                  Just as the bird sings or the butterfly soars,

                  because it is his natural characteristic,

                  so the artist works.

                  by Alma  Gluck


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                    Posted: November 14, 2012, 8:31 pm - IP Logged

                    Ronnie hit the nail on the head here.  Americans are taught to trust people first (often over our own instincts) and it gets us in trouble sometimes.

                    Thanks Artist77, Ive learned the hard way more times than I can count yet still choose to trust. lol. lol.

                    Only as Mr. Reagan once said I choose to "Trust, but verify". lol. lol.

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                      Posted: November 14, 2012, 8:38 pm - IP Logged

                      Thanks Artist77, Ive learned the hard way more times than I can count yet still choose to trust. lol. lol.

                      Only as Mr. Reagan once said I choose to "Trust, but verify". lol. lol.

                      Pres. Reagan was so right. I miss him!

                      Just as the bird sings or the butterfly soars,

                      because it is his natural characteristic,

                      so the artist works.

                      by Alma  Gluck


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                        Posted: November 14, 2012, 8:39 pm - IP Logged

                        Thanks Artist77, Ive learned the hard way more times than I can count yet still choose to trust. lol. lol.

                        Only as Mr. Reagan once said I choose to "Trust, but verify". lol. lol.

                        Anytime I cash a ticket I tell the clerk (up front) that I want the receipt from the terminal and I watch them closely to make sure they don't switch anything.......


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                          I don't expect much of a trial.  If their attorney is worth anything, she/he will plea for some lesser offense or term reduction since this is a losing case. And since a number (all perhaps?) of people on any potential jury (even if they don't play the lottery) have likely once have dreamed of winning a jackpot, if only for a second, and this realization that this crime could happen to them, will make this an easy conviction. Going to trial is too big a risk for these criminals.

                          I Agree!


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                            Pres. Reagan was so right. I miss him!

                            Yes, me too.

                            Its a great and humble person who understand that government causes more problems than it solves.


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