You last visited June 19, 2013, 10:20 am All times shown are Eastern Time (GMT-5:00) | Woman found guilty of murder in lottery winner's deathNassau Bahamas Member #92682 June 11, 2010 82 Posts Offline | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 3:24 pm - IP Logged | |
Sad  I am a WINNER and will always be a winner! | | |
United States Member #72957 March 18, 2009 784 Posts Offline | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 3:53 pm - IP Logged | |
I believe they reported that he only had a 4th/5th grade education..... Well, dallascowboyfan, Abraham had more education than that; yet, I believe it was found that he had only TESTED at that level once an adult. [I'm not sure if Abraham was tested during one of the times that he was in prison after drug selling charges or when.] Apparently, Abraham learned a few things from fellow prison mates (e.g., ducking child support, etc.). Plus, one of Abraham's biggest problems was that after being released from prison, he associated with the same cohorts and relatives whom he associated with when he practiced crime, etc. Apparently, Abraham spent a lot of his jackpot monies during the 1st year of his win. Eventually, Dede paid the neighborhood police officer to give her Abraham's address [and introduce her to Abraham as researcher/writer? not sure] about two years after Abraham's medium lottery win and the rest of Abraham's downward slide continued. 
Having millions of dollars in my financial accounts means more, consistent fun for me.
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St. Pete Beach, Fl United States Member #131707 August 16, 2012 38 Posts Offline | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 4:39 pm - IP Logged | |
I REALLY hope that this is tragedy illustrates to FL legislators the importance of someone's anonymity when it comes to claiming lottery winnings. I really don't think that there's any compelling reason to force someone to go public if they don't want to. Just like the latest PB winner in AZ who obviously really wanted to stay anonymous but his identity just HAD to be released to the public by the lottery commission. WTF?!? What good is that going to serve other than to satisfy the public's curiosity and to open this guy up to all kinds of headaches and whack jobs and allow for the "search-for-dirt-at-all-cost" crazy media to turn this guy's life upside down?? I really think that sucks. | | |
5+1 Winner Arizona United States Member #116287 September 7, 2011 16171 Posts Online | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 4:44 pm - IP Logged | |
I REALLY hope that this is tragedy illustrates to FL legislators the importance of someone's anonymity when it comes to claiming lottery winnings. I really don't think that there's any compelling reason to force someone to go public if they don't want to. Just like the latest PB winner in AZ who obviously really wanted to stay anonymous but his identity just HAD to be released to the public by the lottery commission. WTF?!? What good is that going to serve other than to satisfy the public's curiosity and to open this guy up to all kinds of headaches and whack jobs and allow for the "search-for-dirt-at-all-cost" crazy media to turn this guy's life upside down?? I really think that sucks. The guy in FL ALLOWED those people into his life and was loaning out as much as a million at a time to people. He brought on ALL those problems by virtue of his actions............... If people don't want to go public with a big win they should NOT buy lottery tickets. | | |
St. Pete Beach, Fl United States Member #131707 August 16, 2012 38 Posts Offline | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 4:53 pm - IP Logged | |
The guy in FL ALLOWED those people into his life and was loaning out as much as a million at a time to people. He brought on ALL those problems by virtue of his actions............... If people don't want to go public with a big win they should NOT buy lottery tickets. I agree completely Ronnie, but I still think that people shouldn't be forced to disclose their identity, that's all. The guy in FL would have lost all his money one way or the other, no doubt. He was just not very sophisticated and surrounded himself with questionable people. I just dont think that if I win a major jackpot I should HAVE to relocate to another state or country for my safety/sanity which I would guess is pretty much what this guy in AZ is going to have to do. I just think it sucks. | | |
5+1 Winner Arizona United States Member #116287 September 7, 2011 16171 Posts Online | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 5:00 pm - IP Logged | |
I agree completely Ronnie, but I still think that people shouldn't be forced to disclose their identity, that's all. The guy in FL would have lost all his money one way or the other, no doubt. He was just not very sophisticated and surrounded himself with questionable people. I just dont think that if I win a major jackpot I should HAVE to relocate to another state or country for my safety/sanity which I would guess is pretty much what this guy in AZ is going to have to do. I just think it sucks. The guy in AZ CHOSE to relocate......... So someone knocked on his door????? Really???? If you knew for sure that a vacuum salesman was stopping over tomorrow would you "relocate" today??? Just because someone knocks at your door does not mean you have to answer it....... I plan on waving from my balcony, you will see me waving on CNN after I win...... | | |
da bronx,city island,n.y. United States Member #30895 January 17, 2006 310 Posts Offline | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 5:19 pm - IP Logged | |
She looks like she could have been Charles Manson's daughter.............. 
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Clarksville United States Member #489 July 15, 2002 16048 Posts Offline | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 5:39 pm - IP Logged | |
Well, dallascowboyfan, Abraham had more education than that; yet, I believe it was found that he had only TESTED at that level once an adult. [I'm not sure if Abraham was tested during one of the times that he was in prison after drug selling charges or when.] Apparently, Abraham learned a few things from fellow prison mates (e.g., ducking child support, etc.). Plus, one of Abraham's biggest problems was that after being released from prison, he associated with the same cohorts and relatives whom he associated with when he practiced crime, etc. Apparently, Abraham spent a lot of his jackpot monies during the 1st year of his win. Eventually, Dede paid the neighborhood police officer to give her Abraham's address [and introduce her to Abraham as researcher/writer? not sure] about two years after Abraham's medium lottery win and the rest of Abraham's downward slide continued. 
Where are you getting this information from? Abraham's arrest record only has non payment of child support which was rectified when he hit the lottery. Where are you getting this stuff about drugs? drug seller? Even if he did sell drugs, so what? I don't see where that has anything to do with what happened to him. He was mildly mentally retarded or SLD. Either one of these causes the person not to be able to make rational decisions specially if they have to be made quickly. He probably thought about what she was doing to him for a very long period of time before he was able to "mentally' ingest the fact that she was ripping him off. And he probably talked to someone else who convinced him that she was ripping him off. She took advantage of one of the weakest groups of human beings. Most of these adults that I know who are severly mentally challenged on some level are very kind and loving. The sad thing is that they think everyone else is to be trusted because they are thinking that mostly all people are good and have good intentions. Posters are not forever... | | |
5+1 Winner Arizona United States Member #116287 September 7, 2011 16171 Posts Online | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 5:50 pm - IP Logged | |
Where are you getting this information from? Abraham's arrest record only has non payment of child support which was rectified when he hit the lottery. Where are you getting this stuff about drugs? drug seller? Even if he did sell drugs, so what? I don't see where that has anything to do with what happened to him. He was mildly mentally retarded or SLD. Either one of these causes the person not to be able to make rational decisions specially if they have to be made quickly. He probably thought about what she was doing to him for a very long period of time before he was able to "mentally' ingest the fact that she was ripping him off. And he probably talked to someone else who convinced him that she was ripping him off. She took advantage of one of the weakest groups of human beings. Most of these adults that I know who are severly mentally challenged on some level are very kind and loving. The sad thing is that they think everyone else is to be trusted because they are thinking that mostly all people are good and have good intentions. Perhaps he should not have been allowed to win a the lottery........... | | |
Massachusetts United States Member #37842 April 14, 2006 1012 Posts Offline | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 5:53 pm - IP Logged | |
Perhaps he should not have been allowed to win a the lottery........... I sense some contempt from you for the victim of a horrible crime. Am I wrong? | | |
United States Member #52818 May 21, 2007 1394 Posts Offline | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 5:56 pm - IP Logged | |
no one forced Abraham to play and lets leave it at that | | |
5+1 Winner Arizona United States Member #116287 September 7, 2011 16171 Posts Online | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 5:59 pm - IP Logged | |
I sense some contempt from you for the victim of a horrible crime. Am I wrong? No contempt, I have always though certain groups should not be allowed to win the lottery such as felons, illegals.... and now perhaps the mentally ill should be added to the list? | | |
Massachusetts United States Member #37842 April 14, 2006 1012 Posts Offline | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 6:02 pm - IP Logged | |
No contempt, I have always though certain groups should not be allowed to win the lottery such as felons, illegals.... and now perhaps the mentally ill should be added to the list? Makes sense. | | |
KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE BALL! NYC United States Member #124503 March 14, 2012 5164 Posts Offline | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 6:23 pm - IP Logged | |
She looks like she could have been Charles Manson's daughter.............. LOL! She actually looks a little more like the NightStalker, Ramirez i think his name was. est modus in rebus --- Catch the Lightning! He deals the cards to find the answer, the S. G. of chance, the hidden law of a probable outcome, the numbers lead a dance. - Sting. | | |
5+1 Winner Arizona United States Member #116287 September 7, 2011 16171 Posts Online | | Posted: December 11, 2012, 6:27 pm - IP Logged | |
LOL! She actually looks a little more like the NightStalker, Ramirez i think his name was. Yeah... Imagine hearing that thing say, "Im writing a book and YOU are the subject"......... | | |
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