Millions in lottery winnings go unclaimed each year

Jan 15, 2013, 8:47 am (48 comments)

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It is hard for some to believe, but even as some Americans dream of hitting it big in the Lotto, Powerball, and Mega Millions jackpots, for some it might have happened and whizzed by unnoticed.

"Happens all the time," says Illinois Lottery chief Michael Jones. "People misinterpret whether they won or lost. People misplace tickets all the time."

Jones said the lottery estimates about one percent of all lottery prizes go unclaimed. And, considering the Illinois games raked in about $3 billion last year, he estimates about $2 million a month find no takers.

"They look to see whether they won the big prize, and then they discard the ticket," he said.

Indeed, right now there are some whoppers looking for a home: $750,000 in Mega Millions winnings, along with a $6.5 million lotto winner from last August. There are $845,833 in combined winning tickets in the Lucky Day Lotto game. And there is even a million dollar winner from the millionaire raffle last March.

In some cases, unclaimed winnings are tied up in court. Right now, there is an ongoing dispute among employees at a Chicago Heights bakery over a $118 million windfall. Some of those employees contend they were squeezed out of an office pool which they all routinely play.

But in many cases, people simply don't know that they've won.

Take Ron Yurcus for example. The hospice chaplain routinely played various lottery games but failed to check the Powerball ticket he bought last August. For three months.

Then, in November, Yurcus was cleaning his desk and found the ticket. He decided he should check the numbers before throwing it away. And, left to right, as each one matched, his eyes got bigger.

"When I saw that number one, with all those zeroes after it, I just about fell over," Yurcus said. "Thinking, this isn't real. This isn't me. This can't be happening."

He said he waited until his wife came home, sat her down, opened a bottle of wine, and broke the news that they had just won a million dollars. And that they had done so, three months earlier.

"Of course, we didn't sleep that night," she said. "And it was like, 'Oh my gosh, we've had this treasure in our house for two months!'"

Most unclaimed tickets are, in actuality, small prizes of a few dollars or more. But those add up to millions every year. After 365 days, lottery prizes expire and are reclaimed into an unclaimed prize fund, the money used for various state purposes and additional jackpots.

Jones, the lottery director, says the state's hope is that more people will avail themselves of his agency's new online games. Those, he says, are foolproof.

If you win, they contact you.

"It's the first time there will be no unclaimed prizes," he said. "We will inform you when you've won, and we will send you the money."

Thanks to Ronnie316 for the tip.

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Comments

Ronnie316

There's one advantage to online games......  They inform you when you win and send you the money......

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Jan 15, 2013

There's one advantage to online games......  They inform you when you win and send you the money......

Mail For YouThumbs UpI Agree!Hyper

dallascowboyfan's avatardallascowboyfan

"Millions in lottery winnings go unclaimed each year" That's why I check my tickets every draw......

dallascowboyfan's avatardallascowboyfan

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Jan 15, 2013

There's one advantage to online games......  They inform you when you win and send you the money......

Awesome, Oklahoma needs that.Thumbs Up

HaveABall's avatarHaveABall

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Jan 15, 2013

There's one advantage to online games......  They inform you when you win and send you the money......

True, Ronnie316, in most U.S.A. States, a player can log into their state's lottery headquarter website, create a membership, buy advance play drawing(s), pay with debit card, credit card, checking account funds, and the database will keep track of those $3 or whatever winning draw lines that you've previously purchased.  Nothing falls through the cracks!. 

However, the bad/vital news is that nobody that has been playing this way has won a M.M. or Powerball JACKPOT or 2ND PLACE prize thus far!  Therefore, unappealing to those who's goal is to win either of these top prize levels!

Sad

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by HaveABall on Jan 15, 2013

True, Ronnie316, in most U.S.A. States, a player can log into their state's lottery headquarter website, create a membership, buy advance play drawing(s), pay with debit card, credit card, checking account funds, and the database will keep track of those $3 or whatever winning draw lines that you've previously purchased.  Nothing falls through the cracks!. 

However, the bad/vital news is that nobody that has been playing this way has won a M.M. or Powerball JACKPOT or 2ND PLACE prize thus far!  Therefore, unappealing to those who's goal is to win either of these top prize levels!

Sad

"in most U.S.A. States, a player can log into their state's lottery headquarter website, create a membership, buy advance play drawing(s)"

In most states?

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by HaveABall on Jan 15, 2013

True, Ronnie316, in most U.S.A. States, a player can log into their state's lottery headquarter website, create a membership, buy advance play drawing(s), pay with debit card, credit card, checking account funds, and the database will keep track of those $3 or whatever winning draw lines that you've previously purchased.  Nothing falls through the cracks!. 

However, the bad/vital news is that nobody that has been playing this way has won a M.M. or Powerball JACKPOT or 2ND PLACE prize thus far!  Therefore, unappealing to those who's goal is to win either of these top prize levels!

Sad

Logging into a lottery website, creating a membership and buying advance plays doesn't make winning any easier so why would that be unappealing to those who want to win?   Automatic checking of my tickets would be incentive enough for me to buy my tickets that way if it was available in my state.

whiteballz's avatarwhiteballz

I remember reading an article about Bladimir Agnite, a man who bought a winning Mega Millions jackpot ticket in California. One month after the drawing the winner didn't come forward, the California lottery commission decided to post surveillance pictures of Bladimir Agnite buying the ticket all over the newspapers and all over their website.

I'd say one month was way too soon but if someone doesn't come forward after 11 months, I think releasing surveillance pictures would be a good idea.

Don't get me wrong, I'd hate to have my pictures in the newspapers as much as anyone else but I'd hate to have a jackpot winning ticket expire even more.

Jill34786's avatarJill34786

Quote: Originally posted by whiteballz on Jan 15, 2013

I remember reading an article about Bladimir Agnite, a man who bought a winning Mega Millions jackpot ticket in California. One month after the drawing the winner didn't come forward, the California lottery commission decided to post surveillance pictures of Bladimir Agnite buying the ticket all over the newspapers and all over their website.

I'd say one month was way too soon but if someone doesn't come forward after 11 months, I think releasing surveillance pictures would be a good idea.

Don't get me wrong, I'd hate to have my pictures in the newspapers as much as anyone else but I'd hate to have a jackpot winning ticket expire even more.

I Agree! Given the choice between publicity or having a winning jackpot expire, I would gladly let my name be known. Fortunately, I only play a few times per year so verifying my tickets isn't too much of a problem.

noise-gate

You correct about this guy - however that store and the state had no reason to " out" that guy in the manner in which they did no matter how they want to explain it. The store keeper got his money and had no business  handing in the surveillance tape of the winner which l thought was totally unprofessional.
The Californian State lottery rules are to expose the name and the location of the store that sold the ticket. There is nothing about putting your picture on tv or even talking to the press about your windfall without your consent, I personally went by that store where the ticket was purchased and if that was the guy behind the counter who sold the ticket- that dude is as creepy as they come,shifty eyes and an attention whore. He asked if l wanted to became the newest millionaire and l just ignored him.
* That winner was from this city..5 minutes away.

* l guess l feared the store keeper would post my picture on tv as well for the fun of it....hell with that.

whiteballz's avatarwhiteballz

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Jan 15, 2013

You correct about this guy - however that store and the state had no reason to " out" that guy in the manner in which they did no matter how they want to explain it. The store keeper got his money and had no business  handing in the surveillance tape of the winner which l thought was totally unprofessional.
The Californian State lottery rules are to expose the name and the location of the store that sold the ticket. There is nothing about putting your picture on tv or even talking to the press about your windfall without your consent, I personally went by that store where the ticket was purchased and if that was the guy behind the counter who sold the ticket- that dude is as creepy as they come,shifty eyes and an attention whore. He asked if l wanted to became the newest millionaire and l just ignored him.
* That winner was from this city..5 minutes away.

* l guess l feared the store keeper would post my picture on tv as well for the fun of it....hell with that.

The California lottery had no right to release the winner's surveillance photo, especially only after one month after the drawing. What I'm saying is there might be a reason to release the surveillance photo under extreme circumstances, like if a multi-million dollar ticket was set to expire in a month.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by whiteballz on Jan 16, 2013

The California lottery had no right to release the winner's surveillance photo, especially only after one month after the drawing. What I'm saying is there might be a reason to release the surveillance photo under extreme circumstances, like if a multi-million dollar ticket was set to expire in a month.

maybe you don't like that idea, but if you going anywhere now days in public all you have is the right to remain silent and you better smileBig Grin because u are on camera somewhere.  and it's for your safety case you get lost the people can help you get back home.

justxploring's avatarjustxploring

Florida seems to have a lot of unclaimed tickets.  I think it's because of all the tourists.   Many of them are large jackpots too.

Factorem's avatarFactorem

Quote: Originally posted by whiteballz on Jan 16, 2013

The California lottery had no right to release the winner's surveillance photo, especially only after one month after the drawing. What I'm saying is there might be a reason to release the surveillance photo under extreme circumstances, like if a multi-million dollar ticket was set to expire in a month.

California Lottery may very well have the full rights to do what they did.

Buying a lottery ticket  in CA or in any other State constitutes a surrender of a player's rights to the rules of the Lottery, that owns and operates the lottery that sold the player the ticket.

Without knowing, what all is in the CA lottery rules, I would suspect that the right of the CA lottery to do what it did is somewhere in their lottery rules rights

whiteballz's avatarwhiteballz

Quote: Originally posted by Factorem on Jan 16, 2013

California Lottery may very well have the full rights to do what they did.

Buying a lottery ticket  in CA or in any other State constitutes a surrender of a player's rights to the rules of the Lottery, that owns and operates the lottery that sold the player the ticket.

Without knowing, what all is in the CA lottery rules, I would suspect that the right of the CA lottery to do what it did is somewhere in their lottery rules rights

from page 8 of the winner's handbook available at the official California Lottery website:

"California Lottery is subject to public disclosure laws that allow access to certain governmental records. Your full name, the name and location of the retailer who sold the winning ticket, the date you won, and the amount of your winnings, including your gross and net installment payments, are matters of public record and are subject to disclo- sure. The Lottery will not disclose any other personal or identifying informa- tion without your permission unless legally mandated to do so."

Factorem's avatarFactorem

Quote: Originally posted by whiteballz on Jan 16, 2013

from page 8 of the winner's handbook available at the official California Lottery website:

"California Lottery is subject to public disclosure laws that allow access to certain governmental records. Your full name, the name and location of the retailer who sold the winning ticket, the date you won, and the amount of your winnings, including your gross and net installment payments, are matters of public record and are subject to disclo- sure. The Lottery will not disclose any other personal or identifying informa- tion without your permission unless legally mandated to do so."

What is in the winner's handbook are only partial to the larger governing rules of the CA Lottery.

At the time the CA lottery published the image with the media, they had no winner who had filed a claim with them, and there is no violation of your citation of page 8 of the CA lottery winners's Handbook. They had no name or verified provable image of the winner.

The person that bought a winning lottery ticket may not always be the actual or final winner(s). In fact recently on these posts, there was an article of a Best Buy employee who won a Mega Millions Jackpot somewhere in the East coast. Buit it was not him that bought the wining ticket. His sister did, as he was at work.  If the lottery had published her picture from the store camera, the lottery had broken no laws in regard to their privacy rules. She was not a winner before or after the winning in the eyes of the lottery.

In addition, virtually not all group players who have ever won in the past that march themselves all as a group, into the store to have bought that winning ticket

The store security camera may be subject to the lottery rules as a retail store. Remember one thing, the lottery retailer is an agent of the lottery which is part of the government and the use of the tapes from the camera may be inherited or acquired by Court Order. You just don't know. However you can ask the CA lottery under what authority they acquired the tape and my guess is that they will be glad  to provide you with taht information. Should you get this information, I hope that you will share with us here at this forum

I beleive tthat what the CA lottery did was correct. It help the winner not to loose their winnings. It helped the lottery in its objective to be transparent to the public on the money that it is collecting from people in the name of a game.

Factorem's avatarFactorem

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Jan 15, 2013

You correct about this guy - however that store and the state had no reason to " out" that guy in the manner in which they did no matter how they want to explain it. The store keeper got his money and had no business  handing in the surveillance tape of the winner which l thought was totally unprofessional.
The Californian State lottery rules are to expose the name and the location of the store that sold the ticket. There is nothing about putting your picture on tv or even talking to the press about your windfall without your consent, I personally went by that store where the ticket was purchased and if that was the guy behind the counter who sold the ticket- that dude is as creepy as they come,shifty eyes and an attention whore. He asked if l wanted to became the newest millionaire and l just ignored him.
* That winner was from this city..5 minutes away.

* l guess l feared the store keeper would post my picture on tv as well for the fun of it....hell with that.

If the store had a court order, the Store would have had no choice, but to turn over the security tape, unless it has a ton of  money that it can expect to loose and hired Lawyers to have fought the CA Courts and their weapons loaded sheriffs or Marshalls.

Besides, the store may be under a contract to turn over the tape as part of the lottery security arrangements it had with the CA lottery.

I suspect that both the Store and the Lottery were all in compliance with the

Store lottery retailers, and all of us out there give up a lot of rights every time you deal with the government, enter a government building or premises or conduct business with a government property or computer. The lottery machine is a government property

noise-gate

If what you say is true there would be no need for handbooks or rules. People can make it up as they go along.
Its a known or perhaps unknown fact that there are but a handful of states that allow their residents to claim their prizes anonymously. What if they decided that you can remain anonymously however they are going to print your name as the winner. Would you say that is acceptable?
This jackpot was less than 45 days unclaimed and they posting his picture? In California you have up to a YEAR to claim you prize, whats the rush.  Anyway you slice it- it was wrong.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Jan 16, 2013

If what you say is true there would be no need for handbooks or rules. People can make it up as they go along.
Its a known or perhaps unknown fact that there are but a handful of states that allow their residents to claim their prizes anonymously. What if they decided that you can remain anonymously however they are going to print your name as the winner. Would you say that is acceptable?
This jackpot was less than 45 days unclaimed and they posting his picture? In California you have up to a YEAR to claim you prize, whats the rush.  Anyway you slice it- it was wrong.

I Agree!

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Jan 16, 2013

I Agree!

       I Agree!

Ronnie316

If we make our "I agree" sign BIGGER, does it mean we agree more What?

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Jan 16, 2013

If we make our "I agree" sign BIGGER, does it mean we agree more What?

No Nod

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Jan 16, 2013

No Nod

I Agree!........ In a very big way............

Ronnie316

We don't need no stinkin rules........

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Jan 16, 2013

We don't need no stinkin rules........

No No

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Jan 16, 2013

No No

       No Nod

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Jan 16, 2013

       No Nod

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Ronnie316

No rule is a good rule.

mediabrat's avatarmediabrat

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Jan 16, 2013

We don't need no stinkin rules........

That explains everything.

mediabrat's avatarmediabrat

Quote: Originally posted by mediabrat on Jan 16, 2013

That explains everything.

Yes Nod

mediabrat's avatarmediabrat

Quote: Originally posted by mediabrat on Jan 16, 2013

Yes Nod

I Agree!

mediabrat's avatarmediabrat

Quote: Originally posted by mediabrat on Jan 16, 2013

I Agree!

See Ya!

 

(Ronnie's not the only one who can rattle off multiple posts in a row with nothing but useless emoticons.)

Factorem's avatarFactorem

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Jan 16, 2013

If what you say is true there would be no need for handbooks or rules. People can make it up as they go along.
Its a known or perhaps unknown fact that there are but a handful of states that allow their residents to claim their prizes anonymously. What if they decided that you can remain anonymously however they are going to print your name as the winner. Would you say that is acceptable?
This jackpot was less than 45 days unclaimed and they posting his picture? In California you have up to a YEAR to claim you prize, whats the rush.  Anyway you slice it- it was wrong.

First of all you have to deal with specifics and stay focused with the condition and situation that you have. In this case, CA, a non-anonymous state published an image of a purported lottery winner and the presumed fault with the CA lottery for such an action.

The winner's handbook is not the entire lottery rules. It is however based on aspects of the Lottery rules. The winners handbook is a public relations maneuver by the lottery to keep players hopes high, though it is based on the lottery rules. It does not contain many rules of the lottery. It does not tell the reader what the reserved rights of the commissioner or lottery boss, which could include allowance for the publication of the image of the lottery ticket purchaser. The handbook does not  include the strict security ticket validation methods and more..

Since CA is not an anonymous state, the decision to remain anonymous is automatically waived for players and the lottery, except to the extents that the law requires.

The jackpot being 45 days old is not a standard that would have barred the CA lottery from launching the search for the winner within the time that they did. The search could have gone on for the rest of the year without producing any results, and then maybe your nemesis will be complaining that the CA lottery did not start the search in time.

justxploring's avatarjustxploring

Right now there's a Florida Fantasy-5 ticket that will expire in a few days.  It's worth $193,282.52.    I know I didn't buy it, because it was purchased in Lantana and I've never been there.  Anyway, if I happened to be in Palm Beach County for some reason on July 30 and I forgot about it, or I am currently experiencing an extended senior moment,  it would be okay with me if my picture was splattered all over the news with the caption "This lady bought the winning ticket at Winn-Dixie."

Smiley

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Quote: Originally posted by justxploring on Jan 16, 2013

Florida seems to have a lot of unclaimed tickets.  I think it's because of all the tourists.   Many of them are large jackpots too.

The baby alligators thye buy at the toursit places eat those tickets on the way back up north.

Talk on the street has it that those baby alligators are in fact agents working for the Florida lottery. 

Scared

Then when the people get back up north they panic about having an alligator and flush them down the toilet.

They grow and grow sand terrorize the subway workers.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

Justx,

...or I am currently experiencing an extended senior moment,  it would be okay with me if my picture was splattered all over the news with the caption "This lady bought the winning ticket at Winn-Dixie."

Rod Serling couldn't outdo that!

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by mediabrat on Jan 16, 2013

See Ya!

 

(Ronnie's not the only one who can rattle off multiple posts in a row with nothing but useless emoticons.)

Thank you for sharing your opinion mediabrat.

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Jan 18, 2013

Justx,

...or I am currently experiencing an extended senior moment,  it would be okay with me if my picture was splattered all over the news with the caption "This lady bought the winning ticket at Winn-Dixie."

Rod Serling couldn't outdo that!

I Agree!

Ronnie316

See Ya!

Ronnie316

Yes Nod

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by justxploring on Jan 18, 2013

Right now there's a Florida Fantasy-5 ticket that will expire in a few days.  It's worth $193,282.52.    I know I didn't buy it, because it was purchased in Lantana and I've never been there.  Anyway, if I happened to be in Palm Beach County for some reason on July 30 and I forgot about it, or I am currently experiencing an extended senior moment,  it would be okay with me if my picture was splattered all over the news with the caption "This lady bought the winning ticket at Winn-Dixie."

Smiley

WOW, gotta call my buddy Tom in Lantana !

KY Floyd's avatarKY Floyd

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Jan 16, 2013

If what you say is true there would be no need for handbooks or rules. People can make it up as they go along.
Its a known or perhaps unknown fact that there are but a handful of states that allow their residents to claim their prizes anonymously. What if they decided that you can remain anonymously however they are going to print your name as the winner. Would you say that is acceptable?
This jackpot was less than 45 days unclaimed and they posting his picture? In California you have up to a YEAR to claim you prize, whats the rush.  Anyway you slice it- it was wrong.

Here's that dose of reality you need. Freedom of speech means that your right to say or publish something is generally not restricted simply because the person you're speaking about wishes you wouldn't do it.  For the most part, when you're in a public place anybody can take your picture and make any non-commercial use of it that they want to, so long as they don't slander or libel you. Slandering you requires making a claim that something is true when it's not. A billboard with your picture saying you are a prostitute is definitely slander, as long as you aren't a prostitute. A billboard that says there are rumors that you're a prostitute probably isn't libelous, as long as there really are rumors, and rumors are veryasy to come by. Check out this article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254392/Potential-Prostitutes-site-posts-photos-phone-numbers-women-users-claim-hookers-charges-offenders-removal.html

If the lottery has rules allowing "anonymity" they can't violate their own rules, but you'd need to know what the actual rule is. Rather than saying winners can remain anonymous the rules probably just say that the lottery won't publicize a winner's name, address and picture if the winner asks them not to. In at least one state that doesn't exempt the information from public disclosure laws, so the information is still available if somebody asks for it. Of course if you haven't presented your ticket you haven't asked to remain anonymous, so the lottery may not be barred from releasing a picture of a person  they believe bought the winning ticket. The store definitely has the right to release any surveillance video, and as long as they don't use it for advertising or other commercial use they can definitely publicize your picture. That could include putting it on a billboard with the store's name and location, and the fact that they sold a jackpot winning ticket if it purports to seek the person's identity rather than simply promote the store.

Factorem's avatarFactorem

Quote: Originally posted by KY Floyd on Jan 19, 2013

Here's that dose of reality you need. Freedom of speech means that your right to say or publish something is generally not restricted simply because the person you're speaking about wishes you wouldn't do it.  For the most part, when you're in a public place anybody can take your picture and make any non-commercial use of it that they want to, so long as they don't slander or libel you. Slandering you requires making a claim that something is true when it's not. A billboard with your picture saying you are a prostitute is definitely slander, as long as you aren't a prostitute. A billboard that says there are rumors that you're a prostitute probably isn't libelous, as long as there really are rumors, and rumors are veryasy to come by. Check out this article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254392/Potential-Prostitutes-site-posts-photos-phone-numbers-women-users-claim-hookers-charges-offenders-removal.html

If the lottery has rules allowing "anonymity" they can't violate their own rules, but you'd need to know what the actual rule is. Rather than saying winners can remain anonymous the rules probably just say that the lottery won't publicize a winner's name, address and picture if the winner asks them not to. In at least one state that doesn't exempt the information from public disclosure laws, so the information is still available if somebody asks for it. Of course if you haven't presented your ticket you haven't asked to remain anonymous, so the lottery may not be barred from releasing a picture of a person  they believe bought the winning ticket. The store definitely has the right to release any surveillance video, and as long as they don't use it for advertising or other commercial use they can definitely publicize your picture. That could include putting it on a billboard with the store's name and location, and the fact that they sold a jackpot winning ticket if it purports to seek the person's identity rather than simply promote the store.

Very well said and I agree with all that you wrote.

Your last paragraph points out another very important point which is:

When a customer enters a store to conduct business, the customer in effect enters into an agreement that consents his or her rights to the rules of the store, which includes, but are not not limited to the capture of the customer's activities, by the clearly visible security camera in the store.

I believe that the clear visibility of the camera meets any requirements for notification to the customer that he or she is on camera and if there are not in agreement with the camera recording them, he or she is free to leave the store immediately. This situation is very similar to the sort of messages that one gets when one calls a telephone number and the other end warns the caller that the call may be recorded for whatever purposes, training etc, and if this does not agree with the caller, there are to hang up immediately.

The purpose of the security camera is definitely for the store to capture information that it could use, if need be, to prosecute matters of concern regarding an activity that took place in its store, and consent is granted to the store by the customer's use of the store.

RedStang's avatarRedStang

Got thinking about this article today. Someone at work dropped a PB ticket for Saturdays draw. Most peeps don't realize what their holding and get careless. See it all the time. Pretty sure i know who bought it. Took a pic and put it away.

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