Kentucky Democrats propose taxing lottery tickets

Feb 22, 2013, 11:34 am (47 comments)

Kentucky Lottery

FRANKFORT, Ky. — Democratic House leaders want to add a 6 percent sales tax to Kentucky Lottery purchases and expand the selection of lottery games as a way to increase funding for the state's ailing pension system.

House State Government Chairman Brent Yonts, D-Greenville, said adding a 6 percent sales tax on lottery games could generate about $49 million a year for the state. Adding additional games to the lottery could generate an additional $70 million to $90 million, he said.

Combined, Yonts predicted the changes would provide the $120 million in General Fund money needed by July 1, 2014 to fully fund Kentucky's pension system, which has only half the money it is projected to need to pay current and future retirees.

Yonts said his committee will vote Tuesday on the House's version of Senate Bill 2, the pension overhaul bill. The House Appropriations and Revenue Committee also will vote Tuesday on the lottery revenue bill, Yonts said.

House Speaker Greg Stumbo, D-Prestonsburg, said leaders thought changes to the lottery would be the most likely revenue-generating option to pass. Any proposal to raise revenue during the current 30-workday legislative session requires 60 votes to pass, which means Republican support is essential.

Stumbo said he hasn't yet talked to House Republicans about whether they will back the bill. There are 55 Democrats and 45 Republicans in the House.

The Senate passed its version of a pension overhaul bill earlier this month. Senate Bill 2 would move new employees into a 401(K)-type system and would eliminate automatic cost-of-living increases for new employees, among other things.

Lexington Herald-Leader

Comments

rooster8786

When will politicians learn that it is entirely possible to tax something to death?  A sales tax on top of an already paid voluntary tax? How SCHTUPID can this democrat "leader" be?

JAP69's avatarJAP69

  They are doing revenue creation where ever they can find it now. Big Grin

mightwin's avatarmightwin

What idiots!

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

"Democrats propose taxing lottery tickets."

What a shock. Anyone surprised?

I think they should have a referendum on this after publishing all of the particulars about the government employees' pensions.

If adjustments have to be made, maybe those employees who voted themselves overly lavish pensions could help out the cause too instead of putting it all on the backs of lottery players. Let them sacrifice a little too. Let them be reasonable and take a little less instead of all of the lottery players paying more.

Like the Rolling Stones said, "You can't always get what you want."

jeffrey's avatarjeffrey

eat the poor as usual.Bang Head

Think's avatarThink

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I guess this answers the question "How dumb can they be?"

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At one time Lottery winnings in Michigan were free of state income tax and then Michigan started taxing them.

If Michigan were to put a sales tax on tickets I can guess what would happen!

Todd's avatarTodd

From a gambling standpoint, it's amazing they would even consider this.  I understand the Democrats' desire to tax anything and everything in existence, but can they just stop for one second and realize that by making a lottery ticket cost $1.06 instead of $1.00, that they will throw off the entire cost-to-prize equation?  Those long odds for winning, and the amount of money you win compared to the amount you spend, just got a lot worse. 

It's as if every time you throw down a $10 bet at blackjack, you are forced to tip the dealer 60 cents.  Is this getting through?

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Feb 22, 2013

"Democrats propose taxing lottery tickets."

What a shock. Anyone surprised?

I think they should have a referendum on this after publishing all of the particulars about the government employees' pensions.

If adjustments have to be made, maybe those employees who voted themselves overly lavish pensions could help out the cause too instead of putting it all on the backs of lottery players. Let them sacrifice a little too. Let them be reasonable and take a little less instead of all of the lottery players paying more.

Like the Rolling Stones said, "You can't always get what you want."

They will suck us all dry, enough is enough!

I hope the lottery players make a stand, if they don't, they deserve what they get.

Try that here Michigan, you will lose.

bomberos's avatarbomberos

If the politicians in MY state DARE propose and pass such a tax, I will STOP playing the state lottery!  Who's with me?

Keystone's avatarKeystone

If they tax the tickets.............sales will drop by at least 10%.....................so the 6% tax will not be enough to make up for decreased sales.

Saylorgirl's avatarSaylorgirl

Quote: Originally posted by bomberos on Feb 22, 2013

If the politicians in MY state DARE propose and pass such a tax, I will STOP playing the state lottery!  Who's with me?

I'm with you, that is just idiotic!!  That is the day I would stop playing the lottery.

mightwin's avatarmightwin

Instead of trying to locate and fix government waste (you know there's a lot of it) the lazy azzez just say hey let's tax something new.

JAP69's avatarJAP69

Quote: Originally posted by Keystone on Feb 22, 2013

If they tax the tickets.............sales will drop by at least 10%.....................so the 6% tax will not be enough to make up for decreased sales.

They may have a 10% decrease in sales but the other 90% taxed at 6% will go into a different tax pool. A loss for the lottery revenue for what that went to but an increase in revenue for the pension pool.

Obviously increased tax revenue is more important than the lottery revenue after prize payouts.

JAP69's avatarJAP69

Quote: Originally posted by mightwin on Feb 22, 2013

Instead of trying to locate and fix government waste (you know there's a lot of it) the lazy azzez just say hey let's tax something new.

Spending is not the problem, shortage of tax revenue is. ROFL

RedStang's avatarRedStang

It's simple. Legalize and Tax the Kentucky BlueGrass. Leave the lotto players alone. They would make millions more. Jack-in-the-Box

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by JAP69 on Feb 22, 2013

Spending is not the problem, shortage of tax revenue is. ROFL

BRRRRRUUUUUUUUUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Stand up for yourself Kentucky, you deserve better, write the letters, make the phone calls, send e-mails, tell them, they are done walking all over you like your some kind of dirty rug.

Scream from the rooftops if you have to, they have taken enough from you, tell them no MORE!!!!!!!!!!

mightwin's avatarmightwin

Does kentucky have any self service machines? The ones here don't give anything back, what ya put in you buy.

KyMystikal's avatarKyMystikal

yes @ mightwin

KyMystikal's avatarKyMystikal

I agree with wasted money in Lottery. The lottery provides money to education, the general fund, housing, and Vietnam veterans.  If the state controls  lottery why can't they take a certain percentage from those areas, let's say like 2% from them and use that to cover this. I'm not sure about KY but TN's lottey has money going to education but you have to maintain a certain GPA to maintain it.  At one time the news had reported the state had a surplus of education benefits because people weren't maintaining the grades and were unqualified for it.

mightwin's avatarmightwin

Does anyone know what the kentucky lottery's position is on this?

tkr333's avatartkr333

I dont play much now, add sales tax id probally quit!

Littleoldlady's avatarLittleoldlady

Quote: Originally posted by mightwin on Feb 22, 2013

Does anyone know what the kentucky lottery's position is on this?

I don't think they can openly voice a position. But I feel like this. ..if one state does it,.and gets away with it others will follow.  Ky should just set up a 40lK styled pension system for NEW people and be done with it.  I feel that the younger generation of folks will not be the kind to stay on a job for 30 years..they will have many jobs (short term)..and the 401K is transportable.

maringoman's avatarmaringoman

They know we will play no matter what. Its like shooting fish in a barrel, they know they cannot miss lol. I mean didn't they double Powerball ticket prizes and people went on with it? Our disconnection is our undoing. No Nod Pretty sad.

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

gonna go out on a limb here and guess this guy proposing this is not a player.

KyMystikal's avatarKyMystikal

Quote: Originally posted by haymaker on Feb 22, 2013

gonna go out on a limb here and guess this guy proposing this is not a player.

Why would he need to play? Don't the people of Kentucky aleady pay. his salary?

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by KyMystikal on Feb 22, 2013

Why would he need to play? Don't the people of Kentucky aleady pay. his salary?

In theory, that would be great.  But unfortunately most people ignore what the politician does, and they vote based on whether the person has a "D" or "R" next to their name, or some other factor that is completely unrelated to job performance.

mightwin's avatarmightwin

Quote: Originally posted by JAP69 on Feb 22, 2013

Spending is not the problem, shortage of tax revenue is. ROFL

Ok I guess I should say the same to my employer, hey boss I have too many outgoing transactions in my bank acct I need a raise!

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

From the OP:

"House State Government Chairman Brent Yonts, D-Greenville, said adding a 6 percent sales tax on lottery games could generate about $49 million a year for the state."

Yo, Chairmon Yonts, no what it's going to do is generate a lotto of Kentucky dollars going into bordering states lotteries.

 Typical display of no vision democrat tax and spend thinking.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

I Agree!

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