Ultimate Poker to become first legal, real-money online poker site in US

Apr 30, 2013, 3:07 pm (36 comments)

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But you have to be physically present within the state of Nevada to play

On Tuesday, UltimatePoker.com is expected to launch what will become the country's first fully legal online poker site, with one major catch: it will be limited to those physically present within the state of Nevada.

Neither the site nor state regulators have said precisely what means they will use to determine a player's location, but Nevada state officials said previously that it would be far more extensive than simple IP-based geo-location.

"This is an important day for the gaming industry," Ultimate Poker Chairman Tom Breitling said Monday in an interview with the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "We're the first, not only in Nevada but in America, to offer real money poker in a regulated environment."

Breitling and other executives will be on a press conference call that Ars will participate in later Tuesday morning, and we will update our story with more details.

"Nevada is now the first state to accept legal, regulated interactive wagers," A.G. Burnett, the chair of the Nevada State Gaming Control Board, said. "It's a big day and I'm proud of the state."

The launch of the new site marks a significant change since April 2011's "Black Friday," the infamous day in the poker world when federal criminal and civil charges were brought against three major poker sites and their associates, and $3 billion in assets were seized. The government alleged that these sites were in violation of a 2006-era federal law forbidding companies knowingly accepting payments for illegal online gambling. As a consequence, nearly all overseas poker sites refuse to do business with players coming from American IP addresses.

A deal's a deal

Later in 2011, however, the United States Department of Justice released a famous memo allowing individual states to authorize and regulate online gambling within their own state borders. Earlier this year, the Silver State's governor signed such a bill into law — New Jersey and Delaware now also have similar laws on their books, but Nevada is the first to go live with an authorized online gambling site.

The law also allows for states to engage in "compacts," or agreements with one another, which could create a patchwork of states where online gambling is legal. For now, Nevada's laws only specifically authorize online poker, while New Jersey and Delaware will include a larger suite of casino games, including poker.

For now though, at least some big-time professional poker players — many of whom have left the United States so they can play in other countries where online poker is already legal — say that the new online games (even including New Jersey) are too small for the time being.

"[I won't move back to Nevada] until there is enough money and large enough high stakes tournaments running on the sites, which may take years depending on how the laws are structured and how difficult they make it for other states to band together and create larger prize pools," Matthew Stout, one of the top-ranked poker players worldwide, said. After Black Friday, he moved first to Costa Rica, and later to the Netherlands, just so he could play online poker full-time.

"Think of it like the Mega Millions and other multi-state lottery programs," he added. "They'd never be able to boast these gigantic nine-figure jackpots if they had to keep all lotteries intrastate. Likewise, there won't be enough money for tournament players to win until the prize pools are large enough."

Chris Derossi, Ultimate Poker's chief technology officer (and former chief architect of Macintosh system software, leading the design team for Mac OS 7.1), briefly described how this would be enforced.

"They include your network [IP address], to the location of your mobile phone device and some stuff that we can't talk about," he said. "We do require that players have a mobile device that we can locate through the mobile networks."

He clarified that the company was partnering with Locaid, a San Francisco startup that works directly with mobile phone carriers to ping phones as a way to determine their location.

Ars Technica, Lottery Post Staff

Comments

Ronnie316

Let the games begin.

whiteballz's avatarwhiteballz

I can imagine a bunch of VPNs will be set up in the state of Nevada.

Stack47

That's a start, but it will probably take years before all the states will realize that taxing Online poker is a cash cow.

RedStang's avatarRedStang

Never liked UP. Bring back bodog.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Apr 30, 2013

Let the games begin.

I Agree!

BaristaExpress's avatarBaristaExpress

So settng up VPN's won't do any good if you knew how to understand the statement below from the article!!!!!

"They include your network [IP address], to the location of your mobile phone device and some stuff that we can't talk about," he said. "We do require that players have a mobile device that we can locate through the mobile networks."

I guess some just don't comprehend what they read very well...........

CARBOB

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Apr 30, 2013

That's a start, but it will probably take years before all the states will realize that taxing Online poker is a cash cow.

I agree with the cash cow part, but not on the length of time. Maybe, one year at the most, if Nv publishes the amout of money they collected. You know, politicians are one greedy bunch, including Replublicans. Let me take a stab at the next state, IL.

whiteballz's avatarwhiteballz

Quote: Originally posted by BaristaExpress on May 1, 2013

So settng up VPN's won't do any good if you knew how to understand the statement below from the article!!!!!

"They include your network [IP address], to the location of your mobile phone device and some stuff that we can't talk about," he said. "We do require that players have a mobile device that we can locate through the mobile networks."

I guess some just don't comprehend what they read very well...........

all I wrote was, "I can imagine a bunch of VPNs will be set up in the state of Nevada."

That is all I wrote and nothing more. Do not read more into what I wrote.

I never wrote that using a VPN and only a VPN alone was some kind of magic bullet that would circumvent all the security measures that would be designed to prevent out of state poker players from playing online poker.

Read what I wrote again and show me where I said that using a VPN and a VPN alone would get you around all the security measures. You won't find anything like that in what I wrote.

Perhaps the use of a VPN in conjunction with some other method, for example but not limited to, buying a cheap pre-paid cell phone from Wal-mart and storing it in a Nevada location, etc, etc, etc....may allow someone outside of Nevada to play online poker or then again, there may be no way to get around the security measures but that doesn't mean people will not set up VPNs in Nevada in an attempt to try. All this is beside the point because all I wrote was:

"I can imagine a bunch of VPNs will be set up in the state of Nevada."

If you came to the conclusion that I was saying using a VPN alone was going to get you passed all the security measures then that is your own fault because I never wrote that.

whiteballz's avatarwhiteballz

helpmewin are you speaking from experience? Wink

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by on Mar 28, 2024

Nevada is my favorite place to get service. Yes Nod

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by on Mar 28, 2024

           Stooges

             JAMMY      BONEY         MED

Ronnie316

Quote: Originally posted by on Mar 28, 2024

                    See Ya!

whiteballz's avatarwhiteballz

Quote: Originally posted by on Mar 28, 2024

I was only kidding with you.

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on May 1, 2013

                    See Ya!

                              See Ya!

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