Ohio Classic Lotto goes more than 2 years without winner

Apr 9, 2014, 7:41 am (124 comments)

Ohio Lottery

Jackpot now a record $66.2 million

CLEVELAND, Ohio — The Classic Lotto jackpot currently stands at $66.2 million after no ticket was sold for Monday's draw with the numbers of 27, 32, 36, 38, 40, and 44.

Of course, that means no winning ticket was sold last week. Or the week before that. Or the month before that. Or the year before that.

In fact, it's the largest jackpot recorded for the game.  Every drawing that produces no jackpot winner it breaks another record, increasing by another $100,000 to $300,000.

The most recent winning ticket for the Classic Lotto was for the drawing on Dec. 7, 2011, worth $2.7 million, according to an Ohio Lottery spokeswoman. A $50.4 million prize was won on Oct. 24, 2011.

It's a been a long, slow climb to $66.2 million. Lottery officials don't have an explanation for the long dry spell for an overall winner, but they said the Lottery has paid out $5.5 million in non-jackpot winnings since July 1, 2013.

The next drawing for the Classic Lotto is at 7:05 p.m. Wednesday. The odds of winning the jackpot with a $1 ticket are 1-in-13,983,816.

Plain Dealer, Lottery Post Staff

Comments

Gleno's avatarGleno

What's up with this game in Ohio? Classic Lotto is due for a hit in 2014.Coffee

sully16's avatarsully16

Time to go to Ohio, Dance

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Chasing lottery rollovers is really stupid. I would feel dumb to keep playing a lottery game that has been rolling for more than 2 years.

The lottery decides when a lottery jackpot is going to be won.

mypiemaster's avatarmypiemaster

Do they use balls or the dreaded computer programs for the Ohio Classic Lotto?.

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Apr 9, 2014

Chasing lottery rollovers is really stupid. I would feel dumb to keep playing a lottery game that has been rolling for more than 2 years.

The lottery decides when a lottery jackpot is going to be won.

...says the person who hasn't won yet.  Something tells me you would suddenly change your tune if your numbers hit after playing them for two years.

peppy007

Quote: Originally posted by mypiemaster on Apr 9, 2014

Do they use balls or the dreaded computer programs for the Ohio Classic Lotto?.

I was wondering the exact same thing.  With those low odds compared to other lotteries, u would figure it would have hit sometime after it passed $30 million with the help of people from neighboring states crossing over for a chance at that jackpot.

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Apr 9, 2014

...says the person who hasn't won yet.  Something tells me you would suddenly change your tune if your numbers hit after playing them for two years.

Why I play lottery quick picks instead of self picks.

"There is only one practical reason I can give you to play a "quick pick" over picking your own numbers.  If you get your own numbers, they become just that - your OWN.  You will feel more compelled to play "your" numbers more often.  You'll think, "What if I don't play MY numbers tonight and they actually come in?!?"

If you only do quick picks, you'll play less often.  Play less often is the BEST strategy for playing the lottery!  That includes playing so "less often" that you never play!  THAT is the very best strategy.

Look, the lottery company operates on a 50% payback rate.  In other words, for every $100,000 they collect from ticket sales, they only pay out about $50,000 to winning tickets.  At a 50% payback rate, no other standard bet on the planet comes even close to being as bad as buying lottery tickets.  The lottery is a TAX on the poor and on the ignorant.

You asked what's the most I've won.  Why?  What would that tell you?  I hit $2,500 from the Pick 3 lottery once.  So what???  Seriously - knowing I won that means nothing without knowing about the THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS I poured down the drain chasing that win.

You are interested in the wrong thing.  Do a little research into the probability and payout tables for your own lottery.  If you look carefully, you will see for yourself that I am right about that 50% payback rate.  You might as well light a match to half your money." By PDQ

peppy007

Megamillions is 20 times harder to hit, powerball 13x harder. If I lived in ohio I wouldnt play those two lotteries til it goes way past the amount the Ohio classic is offering.

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Apr 9, 2014

...says the person who hasn't won yet.  Something tells me you would suddenly change your tune if your numbers hit after playing them for two years.

" Playing less often is the BEST strategy for playing the lottery!  That includes playing so "less often" that you never play!  THAT is the very best strategy." By PDQ

str8ca$hhomie's avatarstr8ca$hhomie

        RJOH TIME TO TWEAK THE OLE SYSTEM !

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Apr 9, 2014

...says the person who hasn't won yet.  Something tells me you would suddenly change your tune if your numbers hit after playing them for two years.

...I bet he'd be singing allelujah song...lol

pickone4me's avatarpickone4me

13.9 million for odds! That is the problem right there, the odds are too high,  it's  worse then wisconsins megabucks which the odds are about 6.9 million.

Jon D's avatarJon D

Quote: Originally posted by peppy007 on Apr 9, 2014

Megamillions is 20 times harder to hit, powerball 13x harder. If I lived in ohio I wouldnt play those two lotteries til it goes way past the amount the Ohio classic is offering.

Yeah, I don't get it. What's up Ohioans?

They do about $42M in sales per year for Ohio Classic Lotto, that's around $200-300k per draw. And that's HALF of what the base sales are for MM and PB starting JP in Ohio, when the OCL JP is higher and odds are better!?

So Ohioans have spent more than $84M in total accumulated sales for this run, on a game with odds of 14M, and still no winner. That's insane, spending 6 times over the odds of the game and still no winner.

That's like if you spent $6000 on pick3 str over the years without a single win! Thud

This game is the poster child for how NOT to run a state lotto, with sales languishing in mediocrity year after year. Straight linear sales increases. The game matrix is not sized properly for the playing population, and/or they need to adjust the game marketing or promos to increase interest.

RedStang's avatarRedStang

Quote: Originally posted by pickone4me on Apr 9, 2014

13.9 million for odds! That is the problem right there, the odds are too high,  it's  worse then wisconsins megabucks which the odds are about 6.9 million.

That does'nt seem too bad since some players may buy a few tickets. Now the 1 in 75 million odds for getting a extra pickle on your Mcdonalds cheeseburger are insane.

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

How can they control it?

oh438's avataroh438

I've been following this game for a least a year now.  I usually get auto pick and have missed all 6  most often.  As far as I know, it's still a mechanical ball drawing.  It's not shown live anymore both the Rolling cash 5 and classic lottos we're drop from the daily broadcast for the pick 5 game.

LottoMetro's avatarLottoMetro

Rare indeed. Using average sales per draw of $270,000 (I suspect off), the cumulative probability of having at least one winner so far is about 99.92%. Even if sales only averaged $150,000 per draw, the cumulative probability would be about 98%.

I've checked the drawings for statistical bias but literally none exists, at least over the long term. Ohio is very good about maintaining drawing neutrality. This is just one of those cases where an event that falls in the extreme ≤ 1%, actually happens. It is 'technically' possible for the game to continue rolling for another 1400 or so drawings without a winner, but conscious selection (or player outrage) would probably keep that from ever happening.

If I lived near Ohio, I would make this game a priority above Powerball or Mega Millions for sure. Even Kelly says you should play, albeit if you are already a millionaire Crazy

HaveABall's avatarHaveABall

Dear Todd or LP Staffer,

I noticed a KEY error in the first paragraph of this article, please fix it:

"CLEVELAND, Ohio — The Classic Lotto jackpot currently stands at $66.2 million after no ticket was sold for Monday's draw"

.... Therefore, please add the words "winning jackpot" before the, above, word "ticket."

 

Fascinating article though, kudos! Shocked

CajunWin4's avatarCajunWin4

Who is ready for a road trip ???

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by CajunWin4 on Apr 9, 2014

Who is ready for a road trip ???

...I don't care I don't feel like going to Ohio. Hehehehe

IPlayWeekly's avatarIPlayWeekly

I've tried OCL several times and have given up... I've never won anything back.  At least with MM or PB I've won a few dollars back.

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by HaveABall on Apr 9, 2014

Dear Todd or LP Staffer,

I noticed a KEY error in the first paragraph of this article, please fix it:

"CLEVELAND, Ohio — The Classic Lotto jackpot currently stands at $66.2 million after no ticket was sold for Monday's draw"

.... Therefore, please add the words "winning jackpot" before the, above, word "ticket."

 

Fascinating article though, kudos! Shocked

You did not copy the complete sentence.  If I put a period on the sentence where YOU ended it, you'd be correct.  But the sentence in the article right now is correct the way it is.

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by peppy007 on Apr 9, 2014

Megamillions is 20 times harder to hit, powerball 13x harder. If I lived in ohio I wouldnt play those two lotteries til it goes way past the amount the Ohio classic is offering.

Ironically Mega Millions and Powerball have not gone more than 2 years without a jackpot winner.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by mypiemaster on Apr 9, 2014

Do they use balls or the dreaded computer programs for the Ohio Classic Lotto?.

No computer programs just the old fashioned ball method. I looked into this before splurging on the max draws allowed while recently visiting Ohio.

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Apr 9, 2014

No computer programs just the old fashioned ball method. I looked into this before splurging on the max draws allowed while recently visiting Ohio.

It is time for an Ohio Classic Lotto matrix change.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by CajunWin4 on Apr 9, 2014

Who is ready for a road trip ???

I took one and I'm hoping it pays off. I still have 7 more draws on the tickets I purchased. Compared to MM 18.5 miilion to 1 odds for the 2nd tier prize level it's a no brainer at least for me.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Apr 9, 2014

Ironically Mega Millions and Powerball have not gone more than 2 years without a jackpot winner.

If it did especially with over 360 draws, we would be looking at a jackpot worth over a trillion dollars

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Apr 9, 2014

I took one and I'm hoping it pays off. I still have 7 more draws on the tickets I purchased. Compared to MM 18.5 miilion to 1 odds for the 2nd tier prize level it's a no brainer at least for me.

Mega Millions and Powerball have not been rolling over for more than 2 years without a jackpot winner. Ohio classic lotto playership has to be very low.

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Apr 9, 2014

If it did especially with over 360 draws, we would be looking at a jackpot worth over a trillion dollars

Time is Money. Why would I play a game where the jackpot rollovers for more than 2 years? Insanity at its best.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Todd on Apr 9, 2014

You did not copy the complete sentence.  If I put a period on the sentence where YOU ended it, you'd be correct.  But the sentence in the article right now is correct the way it is.

I agree! almost like as if the "selective" editing was from NBC news.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Apr 9, 2014

Mega Millions and Powerball have not been rolling over for more than 2 years without a jackpot winner. Ohio classic lotto playership has to be very low.

I didn't go crazy on tickets but I did get 3 picks for 10 draws. I do have wishful thinking but I am NOT insane.Wink

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by IPlayWeekly on Apr 9, 2014

I've tried OCL several times and have given up... I've never won anything back.  At least with MM or PB I've won a few dollars back.

You are not a crazy lottery player, because you stopped playing an unwinnable lottery game.

NearNewBrit

[The following numbers may not be precise. I'm going from memory.]

The Lucky For Life game in New England used to have 1-in-13.8M odds for the top prize; there were winners once every 3 months or so.  Then, they changed it to 1-in-41M odds, and there hasn't been a winner for that 5/43 + 1/43 matrix yet (7 months).

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Apr 9, 2014

I didn't go crazy on tickets but I did get 3 picks for 10 draws. I do have wishful thinking but I am NOT insane.Wink

Ohio classic lotto represents lottery insanity at its best. Can you imagine playing every drawing for over 2 years, and have a first time player winning the jackpot.LOL

peppy007

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Apr 9, 2014

Ohio classic lotto represents lottery insanity at its best. Can you imagine playing every drawing for over 2 years, and have a first time player winning the jackpot.LOL

Let me be that first timer. Can someone fedex me some tickets to nyc. Lol.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Apr 9, 2014

Ohio classic lotto represents lottery insanity at its best. Can you imagine playing every drawing for over 2 years, and have a first time player winning the jackpot.LOL

Even the clerks selling tickets were unaware of how long it had been since OCL had been won. It's like as if a $60+ million jackpot is stale news.

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by NearNewBrit on Apr 9, 2014

[The following numbers may not be precise. I'm going from memory.]

The Lucky For Life game in New England used to have 1-in-13.8M odds for the top prize; there were winners once every 3 months or so.  Then, they changed it to 1-in-41M odds, and there hasn't been a winner for that 5/43 + 1/43 matrix yet (7 months).

Do not play that lottery game. Why would you play a lottery game that takes forever to win the jackpot?

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Apr 9, 2014

Ohio classic lotto represents lottery insanity at its best. Can you imagine playing every drawing for over 2 years, and have a first time player winning the jackpot.LOL

I'm a first time OCL player even though I bought 10 draws. Smile

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Apr 9, 2014

I'm a first time OCL player even though I bought 10 draws. Smile

Playing the lottery SOMEDAY is better than Playing the lottery EVERYDAY.LOL

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Apr 9, 2014

I'm a first time OCL player even though I bought 10 draws. Smile

10 lottery tickets in 1 lottery drawing is better than 10 lottery tickets for 10 draws.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Apr 9, 2014

10 lottery tickets in 1 lottery drawing is better than 10 lottery tickets for 10 draws.

Actually it's just 3 QP's for each drawing but I did have 10 draws.

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Apr 9, 2014

Actually it's just 3 QP's for each drawing but I did have 10 draws.

I play MM and PB sporadically, because I hate chasing jackpot rollovers.

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by peppy007 on Apr 9, 2014

Let me be that first timer. Can someone fedex me some tickets to nyc. Lol.

THE POWERBALL JACKPOT IS $80 MILLION.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Apr 9, 2014

I play MM and PB sporadically, because I hate chasing jackpot rollovers.

Me too! Cheers

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Apr 9, 2014

Me too! Cheers

PLAY THE LOTTERY SOMEDAY-IT IS OKAY TO DREAM!

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by peppy007 on Apr 9, 2014

Let me be that first timer. Can someone fedex me some tickets to nyc. Lol.

Can't you buy them online?

faber98

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Apr 9, 2014

PLAY THE LOTTERY SOMEDAY-IT IS OKAY TO DREAM!

dead wrong again as usual thrifty. this ohio thing is a good play from now until it is hit. jackpot amount extemely enticing considering the odds compared to the 2 pie in the sky games everyone seems to be chasing twice a week. every living and breathing person in ohio and states within 15 miles of an ohio lottery store should be playing this with both fists and 100% of their lottery budget. anyone who steps into one of those ohio slot parlors and pumps money away should rethink their gambling MO and play this instead. there is only a limited time that you can play anything considering the age of most players. you come across as the ultimate miser who doesn't chase rollovers? makes absolutely no sense to just dive in occasionally unless financial constraints prevent it. i'd give my left gonad to be close enough to ohio to chase this. far and away the best lottery option out there right now. the fact that it hasn't been hit for 2 years is no rational reason not to play it. after it gets hit then it would irrational to play it.

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

I only play MM and PB.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Marilyn222 on Apr 9, 2014

I only play MM and PB.

I wouldn't waste any money on either one right now. Why would anyone play MM with a $20 million jackpot and horrendous odds when they can play classic lotto which has better odds than MM 2nd place prize.

Masone

Quote: Originally posted by faber98 on Apr 9, 2014

dead wrong again as usual thrifty. this ohio thing is a good play from now until it is hit. jackpot amount extemely enticing considering the odds compared to the 2 pie in the sky games everyone seems to be chasing twice a week. every living and breathing person in ohio and states within 15 miles of an ohio lottery store should be playing this with both fists and 100% of their lottery budget. anyone who steps into one of those ohio slot parlors and pumps money away should rethink their gambling MO and play this instead. there is only a limited time that you can play anything considering the age of most players. you come across as the ultimate miser who doesn't chase rollovers? makes absolutely no sense to just dive in occasionally unless financial constraints prevent it. i'd give my left gonad to be close enough to ohio to chase this. far and away the best lottery option out there right now. the fact that it hasn't been hit for 2 years is no rational reason not to play it. after it gets hit then it would irrational to play it.

I tend to agree. Unless the drawings were being fixed, it's completely irrelevant that it hasn't hit in over 2 years. The only thing that's relevant is 66 million and only 1 in 14 million odds. If I were in Ohio this is the only thing I would be playing. I wish I could play this game so bad. And there is no mega ball either? Only 6 of 6? And it's played 3 days of the week? I think I might have to take a little trip to Ohio, or somehow acquire tickets in this game.

Goon

Oh no you dont, I'm gonna win that. The classic is the only game that I play. I've gotten prety close over the years. I got a good feeling the classic will be mine soonBig Smile

faber98

Quote: Originally posted by Masone on Apr 9, 2014

I tend to agree. Unless the drawings were being fixed, it's completely irrelevant that it hasn't hit in over 2 years. The only thing that's relevant is 66 million and only 1 in 14 million odds. If I were in Ohio this is the only thing I would be playing. I wish I could play this game so bad. And there is no mega ball either? Only 6 of 6? And it's played 3 days of the week? I think I might have to take a little trip to Ohio, or somehow acquire tickets in this game.

masone gets it. 66m and 14-1 odds seems like a no brainer. anyone who knows someone in ohio or knows someone who knows somebody in ohio should be sending $$ to have them mail you tickets. thrifty can "dream" all he wants but wasn't the NY state motto a dollar and a "dream". i tend to stick to state lotteries "better odds" but smaller prizes which keep you under the radar. these people who don't play unless it's 300 million or more are missing out on a chance (minimal as that might be) to hit one and not draw attention and the problems that will arise from a major hit. this ohio one must be covered with at least 1 ticket by ohioites. forget PB or Mega until this one is taken down.

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Could be, a year ago I got a 5of6 for $1500 and since then I'm lucky to get 3of6 for $2.

Masone

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Apr 9, 2014

Could be, a year ago I got a 5of6 for $1500 and since then I'm lucky to get 3of6 for $2.

Buy me some tickets and I'll send you a couple dollars paypal. LOL

Finally, a good reason to be in Ohio.

maringoman's avatarmaringoman

OCL jackpot is about 5 times the odds of winning it. I would be playing this game like my life depended on it. MM can wait

Match Prize Odds(per $1 play)  Payout
6 out of 6 Jackpot 1 : 13,983,816 Jackpot
5 out of 6 Second 1 : 54,201 $1,500
4 out of 6 Third 1 : 1,032 $70
3 out of 6 Fourth 1 : 57 $2

 

MM


Match Prize Odds (per $1 play)
ballballballballballball Jackpot** 1 : 258,900,000
ballballballballball $1,000,000 1 : 18,500,000
ballballballballball $5,000 1 : 739,688
ballballballball $500 1 : 52,835
ballballballball $50 1 : 10,720
ballballball $5 1 : 766
ballballball $5 1 : 473
ballball $2 1 : 56
ball $1 1 : 21
OldSchoolPa's avatarOldSchoolPa

One theory is that more Ohioans are chasing Mega Millions and Powerball since Ohio had a few big Mega Millions winners awhile back. There is no guarantee that I will win any lottery (I don't even have a play in for tonights Classic drawing), but I can guarantee that I will make that long road trip to Ohio should no one win tonight! I might not win even then, but I prefer to have a chance rather than no chance. Why I have won more little prizes from Ohio Classic lottery than I have from Illinois raffle games (I have won nada, zilch, zero). I would much rather drop $20 for multiple chances to win Ohio Classic lottery than to subsidize the Illinois raffle...why there were even some winners who bought a ticket for the very first time. Not cool.

Ilovecash3

Just got my quik pick for next ten draws

6-7-18-32-34-49

..

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by maringoman on Apr 9, 2014

OCL jackpot is about 5 times the odds of winning it. I would be playing this game like my life depended on it. MM can wait

Match Prize Odds(per $1 play)  Payout
6 out of 6 Jackpot 1 : 13,983,816 Jackpot
5 out of 6 Second 1 : 54,201 $1,500
4 out of 6 Third 1 : 1,032 $70
3 out of 6 Fourth 1 : 57 $2

 

MM


Match Prize Odds (per $1 play)
ballballballballballball Jackpot** 1 : 258,900,000
ballballballballball $1,000,000 1 : 18,500,000
ballballballballball $5,000 1 : 739,688
ballballballball $500 1 : 52,835
ballballballball $50 1 : 10,720
ballballball $5 1 : 766
ballballball $5 1 : 473
ballball $2 1 : 56
ball $1 1 : 21

Ohioans look at the Big picture in a small way, if they're unlikely to win either jackpot then they would rather play the game with the best chance of winning something and that's MM with odds of 1:14.7 vs OCL with odds of 1:53.6.  When they start thinking jackpot only, they'll buy more OCL tickets.

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by OldSchoolPa on Apr 9, 2014

One theory is that more Ohioans are chasing Mega Millions and Powerball since Ohio had a few big Mega Millions winners awhile back. There is no guarantee that I will win any lottery (I don't even have a play in for tonights Classic drawing), but I can guarantee that I will make that long road trip to Ohio should no one win tonight! I might not win even then, but I prefer to have a chance rather than no chance. Why I have won more little prizes from Ohio Classic lottery than I have from Illinois raffle games (I have won nada, zilch, zero). I would much rather drop $20 for multiple chances to win Ohio Classic lottery than to subsidize the Illinois raffle...why there were even some winners who bought a ticket for the very first time. Not cool.

" I can guarantee that I will make that long road trip to Ohio should no one win tonight!"

If more people in the neighboring states think like you, this Saturday ticket sales could be the largest since the good old days of Super Lotto Plus when there were as many out of state jackpot winners as Ohioans.  (Those were the days before PB and MM were sold in the mid-western states.)

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

$66.5 Million Saturday.

Looks like I might have to go up there and win this dadgum thing my ownself just to stop all this dadgum controversy!

And I'm gonna win it with some stupid dadgum numbers too.

I guarantold ya.

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Apr 9, 2014

$66.5 Million Saturday.

Looks like I might have to go up there and win this dadgum thing my ownself just to stop all this dadgum controversy!

And I'm gonna win it with some stupid dadgum numbers too.

I guarantold ya.

Now it made me curious what ya all talking about...I'm going to the results Ohio looking for that thingy...

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by Marilyn222 on Apr 9, 2014

Now it made me curious what ya all talking about...I'm going to the results Ohio looking for that thingy...

Yeah, it rolled again, they added another 300k.

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Apr 9, 2014

Yeah, it rolled again, they added another 300k.

I wonder how are they trying to stop ppl from winning... is it rigged? Hehehe...

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by Marilyn222 on Apr 9, 2014

I wonder how are they trying to stop ppl from winning... is it rigged? Hehehe...

Nah, just ain't that many people playin' it, I guess.

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Apr 9, 2014

Nah, just ain't that many people playin' it, I guess.

Yes! I won on the PB...hehehe

3 numbers and powerball how much would I get...I wonder?

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by Marilyn222 on Apr 9, 2014

Yes! I won on the PB...hehehe

3 numbers and powerball how much would I get...I wonder?

$200 with the Powerplay.

$100 without.

Congratulations!

Too bad that stupid 2 came up again for the Powerplay.

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Apr 9, 2014

$200 with the Powerplay.

$100 without.

Congratulations!

Too bad that stupid 2 came up again for the Powerplay.

Yay! I got 200.00 lol

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by Marilyn222 on Apr 9, 2014

Yay! I got 200.00 lol

Thumbs Up Good job!

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Apr 9, 2014

Thumbs Up Good job!

My Butler is laughing at me...hehehe

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by Marilyn222 on Apr 9, 2014

My Butler is laughing at me...hehehe

My maid is fetching my silk smoking jacket, the burgundy one with matching ascot....heh,heh,heh...

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Apr 10, 2014

My maid is fetching my silk smoking jacket, the burgundy one with matching ascot....heh,heh,heh...

Hahaha...

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by Masone on Apr 9, 2014

Buy me some tickets and I'll send you a couple dollars paypal. LOL

Finally, a good reason to be in Ohio.

Paypal is for dealing with a business, if you don't want to deal with costs of dealing with a business then you need to contact a friend or relative living in Ohio who know and trust you.  Good luck on finding one.

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Apr 10, 2014

Paypal is for dealing with a business, if you don't want to deal with costs of dealing with a business then you need to contact a friend or relative living in Ohio who know and trust you.  Good luck on finding one.

Western Union is quicker and faster.

RedStang's avatarRedStang

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Apr 9, 2014

Time is Money. Why would I play a game where the jackpot rollovers for more than 2 years? Insanity at its best.

If it rolls another two years, don't be surprised if the Ohio lottery adopts the phrase" You will win a lottery someday".

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Yay! The PB rolled again...

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Wheeeeeewww...I won 200.00

helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by Marilyn222 on Apr 10, 2014

Wheeeeeewww...I won 200.00

Congratulations on your WIN Party

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Apr 10, 2014

Congratulations on your WIN Party

Thank you!Smile

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

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helpmewin's avatarhelpmewin

Quote: Originally posted by Marilyn222 on Apr 10, 2014

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Jon D's avatarJon D

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Apr 9, 2014

" I can guarantee that I will make that long road trip to Ohio should no one win tonight!"

If more people in the neighboring states think like you, this Saturday ticket sales could be the largest since the good old days of Super Lotto Plus when there were as many out of state jackpot winners as Ohioans.  (Those were the days before PB and MM were sold in the mid-western states.)

Still doesn't seem to be much of any sales frenzy at all.

I wonder what it'll take for the syndicates or high roller to get involved like a couple decades ago in VA:

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/25/us/group-invests-5-million-to-hedge-bets-in-lottery.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

The OCL cash JP is more than twice the odds on the game. This is the range where someone might consider a brute force attack and try to buy all combos, especially with low competing sales. Maybe they'll wait till it's 3 times the odds. Only twice as hard as the VA incident, 14M vs 7M combos, but still a huge undertaking and huge risk.

Masone

FYI, the cash option on this is 33 million.

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by Jon D on Apr 10, 2014

Still doesn't seem to be much of any sales frenzy at all.

I wonder what it'll take for the syndicates or high roller to get involved like a couple decades ago in VA:

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/25/us/group-invests-5-million-to-hedge-bets-in-lottery.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

The OCL cash JP is more than twice the odds on the game. This is the range where someone might consider a brute force attack and try to buy all combos, especially with low competing sales. Maybe they'll wait till it's 3 times the odds. Only twice as hard as the VA incident, 14M vs 7M combos, but still a huge undertaking and huge risk.

With the number of retailers selling lottery tickets all over the state, it's hard to tell if there's a ticket buying frenzy without looking at total sales records. 

I think the days of syndicates buying all the possible combinations are gone with the regulations states have to regulate ticket sales although I could see that happening again if our Rolling Cash5 (5/39) jackpot ever went over one million dollars.

If there is an increase in sales it will come because of individuals coming from neighboring states to play,  I doubt if anyone has a scheme to buy lots of tickets like the Michigan couple that traveled to Massachusetts to beat its Windfall game.

Poo Nanny's avatarPoo Nanny

There is nothing more this Michigan fan would love than to steal Ohios money in the lottery. My sister is driving back from Florida tonight and she is going to grab me some tickets on her way back. I will proudly claim this prize in all of my university of michigan gear just to piss off the people of Ohio! Thanks fo this article

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by Poo Nanny on Apr 11, 2014

There is nothing more this Michigan fan would love than to steal Ohios money in the lottery. My sister is driving back from Florida tonight and she is going to grab me some tickets on her way back. I will proudly claim this prize in all of my university of michigan gear just to piss off the people of Ohio! Thanks fo this article

Yeah...why not?Green laugh

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

What's happened to the Ohio Lotto--current version this 'Classic Lotto'-- is criminal.

Previous versions of this game started at $4 mil, and increased $4 mil with each draw. There were winners at least every 2-3 weeks, with payouts ranging from the base $4 mil to $30 mil or more. 

Real, life-changing money. No, not the eye-popping amounts MM and PB flaunt. Not the buy-a-fleet-of-luxury cars money or five-vacation-homes-in-paradise-money, but enough for most people of any age to retire and enjoy a carefree life from financial concerns.

When the national lottos became available with their gaudy, over-the-top jackpots, the state lotto withered to a shell of its former self. No winner in over two years---beyond ridiculous.

No winner Sat. night, so another rollover to $66.8 mil. Jokefest.

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Apr 12, 2014

What's happened to the Ohio Lotto--current version this 'Classic Lotto'-- is criminal.

Previous versions of this game started at $4 mil, and increased $4 mil with each draw. There were winners at least every 2-3 weeks, with payouts ranging from the base $4 mil to $30 mil or more. 

Real, life-changing money. No, not the eye-popping amounts MM and PB flaunt. Not the buy-a-fleet-of-luxury cars money or five-vacation-homes-in-paradise-money, but enough for most people of any age to retire and enjoy a carefree life from financial concerns.

When the national lottos became available with their gaudy, over-the-top jackpots, the state lotto withered to a shell of its former self. No winner in over two years---beyond ridiculous.

No winner Sat. night, so another rollover to $66.8 mil. Jokefest.

The earlier 6/49 game was actually 6/49+1 and named Ohio's Super Lotto Plus and when it first started PowerBall and BigGame weren't sold in neighboring states so it attracted many players from those states.

I remember reading of jackpot winners driving in from Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan and Pennsylvania to collect their prizes.  Then Ohio changed its rules to limit the amount a single ticket could win to $20M and out of state players stopped coming to Ohio to play.  It only took six months for Ohio to see the error of its ways and change that rule but by then neighboring states had PowerBall or BigGame and Ohioans were going out of state to play them. 

With less interest in OSLP, Ohio couldn't support a $4M starting jackpot and replaced it with Lot'O Play a 6/100 game with a starting jackpot of $1M which was replaced a year later with what it has now Classic Lotto.  It eventually added MM and PB to get even Ohioans playing in state again.

Many Ohioans still prefer to buy PB ans MM tickets even when Classic Lotto has a larger jackpot with better odds.  With a $66.4M jackpot judging from the payout amount, Saturday OCL tickets sales were just normal.

qutgnt

This game has an EV after taxes of almost 2.00 that is money won after lump and taxes vs odds.

This is a jackpot that should be played by all those in Ohio instead of PB or MM. I am shocked

that this lottery only averages a few hundred thousand per draw.

 

I am going to Ohio before Easter. I think it is time to get a lottery post syndicate together

to bring this baby down! 5 of us $100 each. Who is in?

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by qutgnt on Apr 13, 2014

This game has an EV after taxes of almost 2.00 that is money won after lump and taxes vs odds.

This is a jackpot that should be played by all those in Ohio instead of PB or MM. I am shocked

that this lottery only averages a few hundred thousand per draw.

 

I am going to Ohio before Easter. I think it is time to get a lottery post syndicate together

to bring this baby down! 5 of us $100 each. Who is in?

"Who is in?"

Me! I'll hold the money and let y'all know if you won anything.  Hyper

mediabrat's avatarmediabrat

Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Apr 12, 2014

What's happened to the Ohio Lotto--current version this 'Classic Lotto'-- is criminal.

Previous versions of this game started at $4 mil, and increased $4 mil with each draw. There were winners at least every 2-3 weeks, with payouts ranging from the base $4 mil to $30 mil or more. 

Real, life-changing money. No, not the eye-popping amounts MM and PB flaunt. Not the buy-a-fleet-of-luxury cars money or five-vacation-homes-in-paradise-money, but enough for most people of any age to retire and enjoy a carefree life from financial concerns.

When the national lottos became available with their gaudy, over-the-top jackpots, the state lotto withered to a shell of its former self. No winner in over two years---beyond ridiculous.

No winner Sat. night, so another rollover to $66.8 mil. Jokefest.

When the national lottos became available with their gaudy, over-the-top jackpots, the state lotto withered to a shell of its former self.

Ohio is not the only state where this has happened.  New York's Lotto has been all but killed by the onset of the national games.  It used to start at either $2M or $3M (IIRC, which one depended on whether the first drawing was on a Wednesday or a Saturday) and would roll over by at least that much.  I don't remember how much the payouts usually were, but I'm pretty sure they were a lot better than they are now.  I think they would usually get into the 20s at the very least.  These days, the base jackpot is always $2M and the rollover is a paltry $300K.  I noticed during the last couple of big runs that the rollover would increase to $400K or $500K as the jackpot approached and broke $10M, as long as sales were enough to warrant it.  Typically someone wins before it hits $10M, but runs that top out over that are not unheard of.

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by qutgnt on Apr 13, 2014

This game has an EV after taxes of almost 2.00 that is money won after lump and taxes vs odds.

This is a jackpot that should be played by all those in Ohio instead of PB or MM. I am shocked

that this lottery only averages a few hundred thousand per draw.

 

I am going to Ohio before Easter. I think it is time to get a lottery post syndicate together

to bring this baby down! 5 of us $100 each. Who is in?

Do you think you can do better than all the predictors on the prediction board?  There are nearly 500 predictions on the prediction board for Classic Lotto for every drawing which usually result in less than ten lines matching three.  One predictor matched four the last drawing which was very unusual.

Gleno's avatarGleno

When's the next train to Cleveland ? 

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Gleno's avatarGleno

Way to go qutgnt. Put your money on the Ohio Classic Lotto instead of the PB or MM. 

The year is still young and it's due for a hit in 2014. 

Party

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by qutgnt on Apr 13, 2014

This game has an EV after taxes of almost 2.00 that is money won after lump and taxes vs odds.

This is a jackpot that should be played by all those in Ohio instead of PB or MM. I am shocked

that this lottery only averages a few hundred thousand per draw.

 

I am going to Ohio before Easter. I think it is time to get a lottery post syndicate together

to bring this baby down! 5 of us $100 each. Who is in?

I can't believe the low interest in this game. I bought 3 QP's picks for 10 draws which was the maximum allowed. I am now down to 6 draws and will be getting another 10-draws if no one wins in the next 2-weeks. I won't even waste a dollar on MM at this point but may start playing PB if it continues to rise.

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Quote: Originally posted by mediabrat on Apr 14, 2014

When the national lottos became available with their gaudy, over-the-top jackpots, the state lotto withered to a shell of its former self.

Ohio is not the only state where this has happened.  New York's Lotto has been all but killed by the onset of the national games.  It used to start at either $2M or $3M (IIRC, which one depended on whether the first drawing was on a Wednesday or a Saturday) and would roll over by at least that much.  I don't remember how much the payouts usually were, but I'm pretty sure they were a lot better than they are now.  I think they would usually get into the 20s at the very least.  These days, the base jackpot is always $2M and the rollover is a paltry $300K.  I noticed during the last couple of big runs that the rollover would increase to $400K or $500K as the jackpot approached and broke $10M, as long as sales were enough to warrant it.  Typically someone wins before it hits $10M, but runs that top out over that are not unheard of.

Completely agree. People chase the insane odds of PB and MM because of the jackpots, competing with people in dozens of other states. If the Ohio Lotto were like the old days, I'd never buy another PB or MM ticket---ever. And yes, I've got 5 Classic tickets for tonight's draw.

qutgnt

People can post predictions till the cows come home. It is a random game. If anyone actually made money "predicting" the lotteries

wouldn't exist. The only smart way to play the lottery is to play games where the EV is greater than one. To play numbers and combos

that are not going to be likely copied by the birthday crowd so if you do win you increase the likelihood of you pool swooping. Of course

there is no guarantee but people need to play smart. Why people play games like Pick 4 where when you win you are winning after taxes about

35 cents on the dollar is absurd. You are better off playing roulette and trying to hit 2-3 numbers straight as you parlay.

 

In any event this is the lottery to go for. Pools win the most because pools have the most tickets. They usually quick pick it which I am not opposed to. Just hate to get the quick pick set where all six numbers are under 30 cause usually some else

is playing that set.

 

Again I am going to Ohio for Easter. 5 of us put $100 in. Will photocopy and email tickets and let you know where they were

bought.

 

All the best to those that go after this. If you are in OH stay away from the pick 4 or the pick 5 and the MM and PB. Play this

as EV is nice. (Maybe play the 5 out of 39 game only when jackpot is above $500k, where EV is about 1 with lower tier payouts!)

winoneday

I Agree!

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Rolled again last night---$67 mil.

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Apr 15, 2014

Rolled again last night---$67 mil.

Yep! it rolled again.

When comparing the OCL to MM or PB based strictly on odds then it's absurd to play anything else. OCL has odds of 14 million to one thereby making the cash payout ($33.5 million) worth almost 2.5 times the odds value.

MM would need a jackpot of over $1.2 billion with a cash option of over $650 million to be comparable in terms of odds. Can't speak for anyone else but $33.5 million cash before taxes is more than enough to satisfy any lottery dream I may have.

Masone

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Apr 15, 2014

Yep! it rolled again.

When comparing the OCL to MM or PB based strictly on odds then it's absurd to play anything else. OCL has odds of 14 million to one thereby making the cash payout ($33.5 million) worth almost 2.5 times the odds value.

MM would need a jackpot of over $1.2 billion with a cash option of over $650 million to be comparable in terms of odds. Can't speak for anyone else but $33.5 million cash before taxes is more than enough to satisfy any lottery dream I may have.

I wish I could play this game.

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by Masone on Apr 15, 2014

I wish I could play this game.

Buy an airplane ticket to Ohio.

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

Quote: Originally posted by qutgnt on Apr 15, 2014

People can post predictions till the cows come home. It is a random game. If anyone actually made money "predicting" the lotteries

wouldn't exist. The only smart way to play the lottery is to play games where the EV is greater than one. To play numbers and combos

that are not going to be likely copied by the birthday crowd so if you do win you increase the likelihood of you pool swooping. Of course

there is no guarantee but people need to play smart. Why people play games like Pick 4 where when you win you are winning after taxes about

35 cents on the dollar is absurd. You are better off playing roulette and trying to hit 2-3 numbers straight as you parlay.

 

In any event this is the lottery to go for. Pools win the most because pools have the most tickets. They usually quick pick it which I am not opposed to. Just hate to get the quick pick set where all six numbers are under 30 cause usually some else

is playing that set.

 

Again I am going to Ohio for Easter. 5 of us put $100 in. Will photocopy and email tickets and let you know where they were

bought.

 

All the best to those that go after this. If you are in OH stay away from the pick 4 or the pick 5 and the MM and PB. Play this

as EV is nice. (Maybe play the 5 out of 39 game only when jackpot is above $500k, where EV is about 1 with lower tier payouts!)

Buying more lottery tickets per drawing increases your chances of winning a lottery jackpot?

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY



OHIO CLASSIC LOTTO IS THE LOTTERY WORLD OCTOPUS.

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Apr 15, 2014

Buy an airplane ticket to Ohio.

It's only 394 miles from the Bronx to Youngstown Ohio straight out Route 80.

You oughta do it.

Even if you gotta hitchhike.

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