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Legislative committee to discuss killing the Texas Lottery

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AUSTIN, Tx. — The Texas Legislature's discussions about eliminating the state lottery are moving forward.

House Speaker Joe Straus on Thursday announced his appointments to the Legislative Committee to Review the Texas Lottery and Texas Lottery Commission, a new panel charged with studying the ramifications of ending the lottery, along with examining charitable bingo and how its revenue is distributed.

The appointees include three Harris County lawmakers, one of whom is a vocal lottery critic.

Houston Democrat Garnet Coleman has accused the lottery commission of a cozy relationship with the game operator and criticized how most players are poor. He will be joined by Senfronia Thompson, D-Houston; Rick Miller, R-Sugar Land; Giovanni Capriglione, R-Southlake and co-chair John Kuempel, R-Seguin.

Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst will choose five senators for the committee, which is to report its findings and recommendations by Dec. 1.

The committee came out of last session's House Bill 2197, which by passing allowed the lottery to continue after an unexpectedly fierce debate in which the state House voted for elimination before reversing itself.

Discussions about killing the lottery arose after a review by the Sunset Advisory Commission, which evaluates state agencies every 10 years. The Legislature must approve a version of the sunset commission's recommendations for most agencies — including the lottery commission — to continue to exist.

The routine sunset measure unexpectedly ignited a fierce debate as Democrats and Republicans argued the lottery preys on poor people. The bill was initially defeated 81-65, leading state Rep. Linda Harper Brown to declare from the dais that "the lottery commission is gone." But concerns about how to replace the more than $2 billion budget hole that would create led to a new vote in which the lottery survived 92-53.

In a Thursday statement, Straus said that, "the House had a healthy and productive discussion about the Texas Lottery last year, and this committee will continue that discussion."

"I hope these Members will take an objective and thorough look at how the lottery and charitable bingo impact our state," he said.

Houston Chronicle, Lottery Post Staff

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Posted: July 25, 2014, 11:33 am - IP Logged

Well...

These a**holes just won't quit until they succeed.

CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)

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    egg harbor twp.south jersey shore
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    Posted: July 25, 2014, 12:09 pm - IP Logged

    W/ a 2 Billion dollar budget hole the Texas lottery is going nowhere !

    Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds    -- Charles Mackay  LL.D.

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      Posted: July 25, 2014, 12:37 pm - IP Logged

      The Texas Legislature's discussions about eliminating the state lottery are moving forward.

      House Speaker Joe Straus on Thursday announced his appointments to the Legislative Committee to Review the Texas Lottery and Texas Lottery Commission, a new panel charged with studying the ramifications of ending the lottery, along with examining charitable bingo and how its revenue is distributed.

      The appointees include three Harris County lawmakers, one of whom is a vocal lottery critic.

      Houston Democrat Garnet Coleman has accused the lottery commission of a cozy relationship with the game operator and criticized how most players are poor. He will be joined by Senfronia Thompson, D-Houston; Rick Miller, R-Sugar Land; Giovanni Capriglione, R-Southlake and co-chair John Kuempel, R-Seguin.

      Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst will choose five senators for the committee, which is to report its findings and recommendations by Dec. 1.

      The committee came out of last session's House Bill 2197, which by passing allowed the lottery to continue after an unexpectedly fierce debate in which the state House voted for elimination before reversing itself.

      Discussions about killing the lottery arose after a review by the Sunset Advisory Commission, which evaluates state agencies every 10 years. The Legislature must approve a version of the sunset commission's recommendations for most agencies — including the lottery commission — to continue to exist.

      The routine sunset measure unexpectedly ignited a fierce debate as Democrats and Republicans argued the lottery preys on poor people. The bill was initially defeated 81-65, leading state Rep. Linda Harper Brown to declare from the dais that "the lottery commission is gone." But concerns about how to replace the more than $2 billion budget hole that would create led to a new vote in which the lottery survived 92-53.

      In a Thursday statement, Straus said that, "the House had a healthy and productive discussion about the Texas Lottery last year, and this committee will continue that discussion."

      "I hope these Members will take an objective and thorough look at how the lottery and charitable bingo impact our state," he said.

      Discussions about killing the lottery arose after a review by the Sunset Advisory Commission, which evaluates state agencies every 10 years.

      Who is this Sunset Advisory Commission and why do they believe they know what's best for the citizens of Texas?

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        Posted: July 25, 2014, 12:45 pm - IP Logged

        They have been needed to do that in Tennesssee for a long time.

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          Posted: July 25, 2014, 12:46 pm - IP Logged

          The lotto players in Texas  could start a online petition to keep it ?

           

          Patriot

          No bs, just numbers.

           

          Patriot

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            Posted: July 25, 2014, 1:26 pm - IP Logged

            Who is this Sunset Advisory Commission and why do they believe they know what's best for the citizens of Texas?

            The Sunset Advisory Commission evaluates all state commissions, not just lottery.
            I believe you can find the latest advisory posted at the website www.txlottery.org.
            The commission didn't recommend the lottery be disbanded, they just made some recommendations to improve
            how it functions.
            They recommended the commission be expanded to 6 members, which was adopted.
            I believe they raised some questions on how Director Gary Grief is running the show.
            Grief has made some controversial decisions, including attempted adoption of a new game that is under Attorney General
            review. It's alleged that the game doesn't  meet constitutional requirements, ie. gaming, not lottery.
            It's alleged that Grief is actually a undercover agent for GTECH, the lottery operator.
            GTECH won the recent contract that some folks say increases their profits at the expense of Texas education.
            The current Commission Chairman Krause has a questionable background, particularly regarding some tax claims.
            There is a lotto report website owned by a Dallas resident ,Dawn Nettles, that provides some details on current and past issues.


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              Posted: July 25, 2014, 1:33 pm - IP Logged

              Who is this Sunset Advisory Commission and why do they believe they know what's best for the citizens of Texas?

              The Sunset Advisory Commission evaluates all state commissions, not just lottery.
              I believe you can find the latest advisory posted at the website www.txlottery.org.
              The commission didn't recommend the lottery be disbanded, they just made some recommendations to improve
              how it functions.
              They recommended the commission be expanded to 6 members, which was adopted.
              I believe they raised some questions on how Director Gary Grief is running the show.
              Grief has made some controversial decisions, including attempted adoption of a new game that is under Attorney General
              review. It's alleged that the game doesn't  meet constitutional requirements, ie. gaming, not lottery.
              It's alleged that Grief is actually a undercover agent for GTECH, the lottery operator.
              GTECH won the recent contract that some folks say increases their profits at the expense of Texas education.
              The current Commission Chairman Krause has a questionable background, particularly regarding some tax claims.
              There is a lotto report website owned by a Dallas resident ,Dawn Nettles, that provides some details on current and past issues.


              They better stop it ,

              because with the Advantage Pro Time Traveling System..

              The wins always ends up in Texas..

               

              Anyways before this state closes 

              We will go heavier on the Texas Bets until then..

               

              Scaredy Cats...

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                Posted: July 25, 2014, 3:35 pm - IP Logged

                The lotto players in Texas  could start a online petition to keep it ?

                 

                Patriot

                Sounds like players in Texas need to do this, to keep their Lottery around.

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                  Posted: July 25, 2014, 4:06 pm - IP Logged

                  Discussions about killing the lottery arose after a review by the Sunset Advisory Commission, which evaluates state agencies every 10 years.

                  Who is this Sunset Advisory Commission and why do they believe they know what's best for the citizens of Texas?

                  ..the Sunset advisory committee is comprised of folks who have " rode into the sunset" ..and for some reason have returned to throw in their 2 cents into this ongoing debate.How else does one explain a 10 year debate?

                  Appointing  folks who are rocking chair bound to a committee of any kind is folly!

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                    Posted: July 25, 2014, 5:26 pm - IP Logged

                    Killing the Texas lottery, is equivalent to killing oil drilling in Texas. That will never happen.

                    Seekand ye shall find -Matt. 7:7 ...Ask and ye shall receive -John 16:24 ...Give and it shall be given unto you -Luke 6:38 ...Be careful what you ask for!!! -Mypiemaster 1:1

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                      Posted: July 25, 2014, 5:36 pm - IP Logged

                      Who is this Sunset Advisory Commission and why do they believe they know what's best for the citizens of Texas?

                      The Sunset Advisory Commission evaluates all state commissions, not just lottery.
                      I believe you can find the latest advisory posted at the website www.txlottery.org.
                      The commission didn't recommend the lottery be disbanded, they just made some recommendations to improve
                      how it functions.
                      They recommended the commission be expanded to 6 members, which was adopted.
                      I believe they raised some questions on how Director Gary Grief is running the show.
                      Grief has made some controversial decisions, including attempted adoption of a new game that is under Attorney General
                      review. It's alleged that the game doesn't  meet constitutional requirements, ie. gaming, not lottery.
                      It's alleged that Grief is actually a undercover agent for GTECH, the lottery operator.
                      GTECH won the recent contract that some folks say increases their profits at the expense of Texas education.
                      The current Commission Chairman Krause has a questionable background, particularly regarding some tax claims.
                      There is a lotto report website owned by a Dallas resident ,Dawn Nettles, that provides some details on current and past issues.


                      Why are these people giving more GRIEF to an individual named Gary Grief. Don't they think he has enough grief in his life already?. He does not deserve any more grief from anybody. If he wants more grief in his life, he can consult with his wife and they can make little grief babies. The kind of grief that brings joy not grief into your life. Yes Nod

                      Seekand ye shall find -Matt. 7:7 ...Ask and ye shall receive -John 16:24 ...Give and it shall be given unto you -Luke 6:38 ...Be careful what you ask for!!! -Mypiemaster 1:1

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                        Posted: July 25, 2014, 6:58 pm - IP Logged

                        Texas Lottery Commission, a new panel charged with studying the ramifications of ending the lottery,

                        along with examining charitable bingo and how its revenue is distributed.

                         

                        Really, they're going to pick on Bingo players What? that's cold lol

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                          Posted: July 25, 2014, 8:02 pm - IP Logged

                          " Garnet Coleman has accused the lottery commission of a cozy relationship with the game operator and criticized how most players are poor."

                          It will be interesting to see how Coleman substantiates these assertions.  I would like to know what Coleman means by "most".

                          I am open to seeing the exact evidence and numbers.  Certainly Coleman wouldn't make off the cuff assertions so I expect the exact numbers to be published quickly.

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                            Posted: July 25, 2014, 9:05 pm - IP Logged

                            Once there was a thread here on LP about moving to another state because your state didn't have a lottery or because a different state had a better lottery.

                            If you did that wouldn't something like this really frost you?
                            Bang Head

                            This time around gambling operators seem to have the lead. If you study the history of gambling in the U.S. in the past it has run about a 20 year cycle.it gets approved, expands, and then gets outlawed. Vegas was the exception and now A.C. is falling apart, so ? But we're way past a 20 year mark.

                            I don't think a state lottery has ever come into being and then got outlawed since NH started in 1964.

                            One thing this group in Texas doesn't seem to realize is that players are going to find the action. If they get their way 'policy' will make a big comeback.

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.