$450 MILLION: Powerball lottery jackpot nears record

Feb 8, 2015, 7:11 am (153 comments)

Powerball

5th-largest US jackpot ever; 5th-largest cash value

By Todd Northrop

Mega jackpots are back!

2014 came and went as a year devoid of frenzy-inducing lottery jackpots, but 2015 is shaping up to be jackpot-chasers' dream.

Between now and Wednesday evening, anyone can walk into a store and buy a lottery ticket for a couple of bucks that has the potential of winning around a half-billion dollars.

An estimated $450 million, to put a finer point on it — but even that amount is likely to be far-exceeded by the time the Powerball drawing kicks off Wednesday evening.

That's because lotteries typically are very conservative in their initial jackpot estimates. But like we saw with Saturday's Powerball drawing, the initial estimate Thursday morning was $360 million, which grew to $380 million by Friday afternoon, and finally to $394.5 million by draw time Saturday night.

Seasoned lottery players keep an eye on the lump-sum cash value of the jackpot, and the initial estimate is just as eye-popping: $304.1 million. And likely to grow even bigger before Wednesday.

When compared against all lottery drawings conducted in United States lottery history, Wednesday's Powerball jackpot ranks 5th all-time, and the cash value also ranks as number 5 among all cash values in history. (See the top 25 United States annuity and cash value jackpots below.)

Of course, the big winner (or winners) will have to pay taxes on their prize, so USA Mega has a handy Jackpot Analysis page available to calculate the federal and state taxes that would be withheld upon the award of your nice big jackpot.

This is the largest Powerball jackpot since — well, since the largest Powerball jackpot of all time was awarded in the May 18, 2013, drawing.  A single lottery ticket, purchased by Gloria MacKenzie of Zephyrhills, Florida, won the entire $590.5 million grand prize.  (See Winner of record $590.5 million Powerball lottery jackpot announced, Lottery Post, June 5, 2013).

Wednesday's mammoth jackpot is the result of 20 consecutive draws without a winner.  The run-up started as a $40 million prize on December 3, 2014.

The winning numbers for Saturday, February 7, 2015 were 5, 10, 21, 34, and 58, with Powerball number 33.  The Power Play number was 5.

Even though nobody won the jackpot Saturday, 11 lucky players matched the first 5 numbers for a $1,000,000 prize: 2 from California, 2 from Florida, 1 from Louisiana, 1 from Massachusetts, 1 from Missouri, 2 from New York, 1 from Ohio, and 1 from Texas.

The two California second-prize winners each will be awarded $1,388,464, because California does not award fixed prizes. By law, California awards all prizes on a pari-mutuel basis, meaning the prizes will change each drawing based on the number of tickets sold and the number of tickets that won at each prize level.

Only one of the second-prize winners purchased the Power Play option — the ticket sold in Massachusetts.  Because that ticket was purchased with the Power Play option their second-prize win is automatically doubled to $2 million.  Power Play is not available in California, because the fixed nature of the prize increase offered in Power Play is not compatible with California's pari-mutuel payouts.

101 tickets matched four white numbers plus the Powerball and won $10,000.  Of those tickets, 11 were purchased with the Power Play option, increasing the prize to $50,000, and 10 of the tickets were sold in California, where the prize was worth $13,056 this drawing.

Following the Saturday drawing, the Powerball annuity jackpot estimate was raised $55.5 million from its previous amount of $394.5 million. The cash value was raised by $37.5 million from its previous amount of $266.6 million.

The next Powerball drawing will take place Wednesday night at 10:59 pm Eastern Time.

When a Powerball ticket is purchased with the Power Play option for an extra $1 per ticket, any non-jackpot prize is increased according to a fixed prize schedule, which can be found on the Powerball Drawing Detail page at USA Mega, as well as on the Powerball Prize Payouts page at Lottery Post.

Powerball is played in 44 states, plus the District of Columbia and the U.S. Virgin Islands.  Drawings are Wednesdays and Saturdays at 10:59 p.m. Eastern Time.  Tickets cost $2 each.

Powerball lottery results are published within minutes of the drawing at USA Mega (www.usamega.com).  The USA Mega Web site provides lottery players in-depth information about the United States's two biggest multi-state lottery games, Mega Millions and Powerball.

Top 25 United States lottery jackpots of all time

Wednesday's Powerball jackpot currently stands as the 5th-largest lottery jackpot of all time in the United States, and the 3rd-largest Powerball jackpot ever.  Brisk sales will almost certainly push the jackpot estimate higher by draw time.

If nobody wins Wednesday, it's anyone's guess how high it will go.

  1. Mega Millions: $656 million, Mar. 30, 2012 - Illinois, Kansas, Maryland
  2. Mega Millions: $648 million, Dec. 17, 2013 - California, Georgia
  3. Powerball: $590.5 million, May 18, 2013 - Florida
  4. Powerball: $587.5 million, Nov. 28, 2012 - Arizona, Missouri
  5. Powerball: $450 million, Feb. 11, 2015 - Preliminary estimate, not won yet
  6. Powerball: $448.4 million, Aug. 7, 2013 - Minnesota, New Jersey (2)
  7. Powerball: $425.3 million, Feb. 19, 2014 - California
  8. Mega Millions: $414 million, Mar. 18, 2014 - Florida, Maryland
  9. Powerball: $399.4 million, Sep. 18, 2013 - South Carolina
  10. Mega Millions: $390 million, Mar. 6, 2007 - Georgia, New Jersey
  11. Mega Millions: $380 million, Jan. 4, 2011 - Idaho, Washington
  12. Powerball: $365 million, Feb. 18, 2006 - Nebraska
  13. The Big Game: $363 million, May 9, 2000 - Illinois, Michigan
  14. Powerball: $340 million, Oct. 19, 2005 - Oregon
  15. Powerball: $338.3 million, Mar. 23, 2013 - New Jersey
  16. Powerball: $337 million, Aug. 15, 2012 - Michigan
  17. Powerball: $336.4 million, Feb. 11, 2012 - Rhode Island
  18. Mega Millions: $336 million, Aug. 28, 2009 - California, New York
  19. The Big Game: $331 million, Apr. 16, 2002 - Georgia, Illinois, New Jersey
  20. Mega Millions: $330 million, Aug. 31, 2007 - Maryland, New Jersey, Texas, Virginia
  21. Mega Millions: $326 million, Nov. 4, 2014 - New York
  22. Mega Millions: $319 million, Mar. 25, 2011 - New York
  23. Mega Millions: $315 million, Nov. 15, 2005 - California
  24. Powerball: $314.9 million, Dec. 25, 2002 - West Virgina
  25. Powerball: $314.3 million, Aug. 25, 2007 - Indiana

The number of jackpots in the top 25, by lottery game, are:

  • Powerball: 13
  • Mega Millions: 10
  • The Big Game: 2

The Big Game is the original name of Mega Millions, from the game's first drawing on Sep. 6, 1996 through May 14, 2002.  The name was changed to Mega Millions starting with the May 17, 2002 drawing.

Top 25 cash value jackpots

Since many lottery winners collect their winnings in cash, the lump-sum payout is an important measure of what a winning ticket could be worth.

Looking at the cash value, the upcoming Powerball jackpot ranks as the 5th-largest cash value in U.S. history.

  1. Mega Millions: $471 million cash, Mar. 30, 2012 ($656 million annuity) - Illinois, Kansas, Maryland
  2. Powerball: $384.7 million cash, Nov. 28, 2012 ($587.5 million annuity) - Arizona, Missouri
  3. Powerball: $370.9 million cash, May 18, 2013 ($590.5 million annuity) - Florida
  4. Mega Millions: $347.6 million cash, Dec. 17, 2013 ($648 million annuity) - California, Georgia
  5. Powerball: $304.1 million cash, Feb. 11, 2015 ($450 million annuity) - Preliminary estimate, not won yet
  6. Powerball: $258.2 million cash, Aug. 7, 2013 ($448.4 million annuity) - Minnesota, New Jersey (2)
  7. Mega Millions: $240 million cash, Jan. 4, 2011 ($380 million annuity) - Idaho, Washington
  8. Mega Millions: $233.1 million cash, Mar. 6, 2007 ($390 million annuity) - Georgia, New Jersey
  9. Mega Millions: $230.9 million cash, Mar. 18, 2014 ($414 million annuity) - Florida, Maryland
  10. Powerball: $227.8 million cash, Feb. 19, 2014 ($425.3 million annuity) - California
  11. Powerball: $224.7 million cash, Aug. 15, 2012 ($337 million annuity) - Michigan
  12. Powerball: $223.3 million cash, Sep. 18, 2013 ($399.4 million annuity) - South Carolina
  13. Mega Millions: $214 million cash, Aug. 28, 2009 ($336 million annuity) - California, New York
  14. Powerball: $211 million cash, Mar. 23, 2013 ($338.3 million annuity) - New Jersey
  15. Powerball: $210 million cash, Feb. 11, 2012 ($336.4 million annuity) - Rhode Island
  16. Mega Millions: $202.9 million cash, Mar. 25, 2011 ($319 million annuity) - New York
  17. Mega Millions: $197.5 million cash, Nov. 4, 2014 ($326 million annuity) - New York
  18. Mega Millions: $194.4 million cash, Aug. 31, 2007 ($330 million annuity) - Maryland, New Jersey, Texas, Virginia
  19. Mega Millions: $185 million cash, Nov. 15, 2005 ($315 million annuity) - California
  20. The Big Game: $180 million cash, May 9, 2000 ($363 million annuity) - Illinois, Michigan
  21. Mega Millions: $177.3 million cash, Jan. 16, 2015 ($270 million annuity) - Illinois
  22. Powerball: $177.3 million cash, Feb. 18, 2006 ($365 million annuity) - Nebraska
  23. Powerball: $170.5 million cash, Dec. 25, 2002 ($314.9 million annuity) - West Virginia
  24. Mega Millions: $168 million cash, July 2, 2004 ($294 million annuity) - Massachusetts
  25. Mega Millions: $167.7 million cash, Feb. 22, 2008 ($275 million annuity) - Georgia

The number of jackpot cash values in the top 25, by lottery game, are:

  • Mega Millions: 13
  • Powerball: 11
  • The Big Game: 1

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Comments

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

               

well things just got interesting

delS

A lot of lives will be changed by this, hopefully, a lot of good will be done. I suspect it will reach $475,000,000 by Wednesday..........

christina1992

i cant believe nobodies nnumbers matched. i had two in a row and off two numbers by one each. today il buy 3 tickets and two mega millions. doesnt matter what the jackpot is(: 

how many tickets are you going to buy? so many people are going play im just putting 6 dollars

dallascowboyfan's avatardallascowboyfan

$450 million Woo Hoo  Banana White Bounce Dance

Piaceri

PartyWhite BounceDanceHyperBananaParty

 

JACKPOT FEVER!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Dang, when I finally went to bed last night, it was some winner in Brooklyn NY.

 

Come on Powerball! Wooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

Bleudog101

Let's not forget Puerto Rico is in the mix now too, good luck everyone!!

alekk's avataralekk

oh man, had all the six numbers but on different tickets!!! Puke

 

so close!! cant believe no one won it

DELotteryPlyr's avatarDELotteryPlyr

The Jackpot analysis is really COOL!!! I already knew that Maryland was crazy in taxes from the people I know/work with but this chart PROVES it

If I hit in Delaware my cash prize is - $228,075,000 due to no state taxes on it!

Maryland appears to be tied with NY for the LOWEST - $ 201,466,250

so 28 mil more for me!! LOL! Green laugh

Bleudog101

I can see the coffers from Alabama, Mississippi, Nevada and Utah leaving to border states to play the lottery.  Didn't include the other two holdouts for obvious reasons...where could Hawaiian or Alaskan residents drive to?  lol

Erzulieredeyes's avatarErzulieredeyes

Quote: Originally posted by DELotteryPlyr on Feb 8, 2015

The Jackpot analysis is really COOL!!! I already knew that Maryland was crazy in taxes from the people I know/work with but this chart PROVES it

If I hit in Delaware my cash prize is - $228,075,000 due to no state taxes on it!

Maryland appears to be tied with NY for the LOWEST - $ 201,466,250

so 28 mil more for me!! LOL! Green laugh

Must be nice not to have State taxes taken out of the lottery win. With the extra $28 million left over, I'd go out and purchase my first starter house for $28Million ! LO L

 

J/K (Maybe). Big Smile

 

I'd like to think I would stay within $500,000-$2M max range at tops when I win. But I am sure I will exceed that easily with more than $200M in the bank.  :)

mypiemaster's avatarmypiemaster

11 millionaires were created this draw. What more can you ask for?. Maybe 20 millionaires next draw, including me as one of the winners. Let the fun begin!!!. Guitar

tgstx2's avatartgstx2

One of the 5 out of 5 winners came from a quick pick of a store right down the road that I use to go to all the time before starting to play the lotto. I guess I need to start going there and tap into that luck well =D

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Quote: Originally posted by Piaceri on Feb 8, 2015

PartyWhite BounceDanceHyperBananaParty

 

JACKPOT FEVER!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Dang, when I finally went to bed last night, it was some winner in Brooklyn NY.

 

Come on Powerball! Wooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

Green laughlooks like someone got into Miss Annie's cat nipp stash again

CDanaT's avatarCDanaT

Quote: Originally posted by DELotteryPlyr on Feb 8, 2015

The Jackpot analysis is really COOL!!! I already knew that Maryland was crazy in taxes from the people I know/work with but this chart PROVES it

If I hit in Delaware my cash prize is - $228,075,000 due to no state taxes on it!

Maryland appears to be tied with NY for the LOWEST - $ 201,466,250

so 28 mil more for me!! LOL! Green laugh

DE..... Don't to forget the tax taxes taken(25%) out are not the taxes you will owe in full. If the $304 million cash offer is taken, your Fed income tax rate is at 39.6%. That will leave you around $183 Mil & change if you live in a non income tax state(like TX). Course, you get to take any deductions to offset it...
Still not a bad haul on a $2 investment !!!

Piaceri

Quote: Originally posted by hearsetrax on Feb 8, 2015

Green laughlooks like someone got into Miss Annie's cat nipp stash again

annie

 

Miss Annie says "nobody touches my catnip stash"

gocart1's avatargocart1

Quote: Originally posted by hearsetrax on Feb 8, 2015

               

well things just got interesting

Yes it did..but it would be interesting to see if it rolled one last time..PartyUS FlagParty

PrinceRene

Is it hammer time yet? LOL

Teddi's avatarTeddi

I say it's going to be at ~$500 million come Wednesday, which pushes up the lump sum to ~$330 million. 

I downloaded the Intuit tax calculator app and plugged the numbers in (Got much different numbers from what I had gotten using the straight 39.6 & state deductions).

Based on the app, after the lottery takes it's 25% and the state takes it's 6%, I'd only have to pay an additional $45m in federal taxes next year (which will be much less after charity deductions)  which would leave me with a minimum of $184,000,000...net. 

That is an extremely beautiful number.Dance Happy dance!!

LottoMetro's avatarLottoMetro

Looks like I might buy a ticket for the next drawing. LOL

Technut's avatarTechnut

I got 1 number on 2 separate lines out of 5 tickets. BLNT (Better Luck Next Time)

dpoly1's avatardpoly1

Ima going to get my ticket!

Ah the simple pleasures of life .................

Theox-'s avatarTheox-

Quote: Originally posted by dpoly1 on Feb 8, 2015

Ima going to get my ticket!

Ah the simple pleasures of life .................

I don't think that counts as a simple pleasure.

ThatScaryChick's avatarThatScaryChick

Quote: Originally posted by LottoMetro on Feb 8, 2015

Looks like I might buy a ticket for the next drawing. LOL

Same but I'm wondering if I should splurge and get 2 tickets! Big Grin

THRIFTY's avatarTHRIFTY

 

$2 INVESTMENT WILL TURN INTO MILLIONS.

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Feb 8, 2015

 

$2 INVESTMENT WILL TURN INTO MILLIONS.

Look at the sparkle in his eyes. He his having visions of the brand new Cadillac that will take him down south to his winter home on the beaches of Florida. (Over 65 and rich are required to have at least one Cadillac - FL State Law - lol)

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by dpoly1 on Feb 8, 2015

Ima going to get my ticket!

Ah the simple pleasures of life .................

Wow! That is nice!

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by THRIFTY on Feb 8, 2015

 

$2 INVESTMENT WILL TURN INTO MILLIONS.

Did you have any luck from last nights drawing? I got the usual goose egg.

dallascowboyfan's avatardallascowboyfan

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Feb 8, 2015

I can see the coffers from Alabama, Mississippi, Nevada and Utah leaving to border states to play the lottery.  Didn't include the other two holdouts for obvious reasons...where could Hawaiian or Alaskan residents drive to?  lol

It took us two days to drive from Anchorage( Ft. Richardson) to Seattle we left Friday night and arrived Sunday night on our way to Ft. Stewart Ga.

jack27

We are all already know whats going to happen. As usual we are going to see and old lady or an old man or some rich folk who already have million of dollar came forward to claim the prize. Whoever dont know this before must be slow or something. I still believing the lottery was design to make the rich get richer and the poor people living at the bottom to get poorer.

Igamble's avatarIgamble

Its amazing that players put in an adittional  almost 60mil. $ (394.5 to 450mil) but  only 12mil out of the aditional 60mil  which is about 10%  made a real difference to only 112people total !! 12 got about 1mil each and 100 got 10grand each.

so this draw millions have played and only 112of them  won something significant.that's about 0.0005%winners of 10grand+5/0 match  for this draw if we put 5million players !!

the rest of them got fooled again  like me Wink,

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by jack27 on Feb 8, 2015

We are all already know whats going to happen. As usual we are going to see and old lady or an old man or some rich folk who already have million of dollar came forward to claim the prize. Whoever dont know this before must be slow or something. I still believing the lottery was design to make the rich get richer and the poor people living at the bottom to get poorer.

Sounds like you've been couped up too long in that box of yours....Jack.

banter's avatarbanter

@jack27, this is true for the simple fact that those who can least afford to gamble/play the lottery are those that spend the most.  I'm not rich, or particularly what I would call well-off so, I only buy ONE ticket (usually with power-up option) per drawing when the jackpot gets BIG.  I can comfortably afford to lose (in probability) my $2-3 per ticket.  I do not, however, spend my whole paycheck or even a large(r) portion on the lottery.  That way lies madness.

I, like many, have a child to put through college somehow, not to mention I would like to be able to retire and not have to work well into my 70s-80s and beyond.  The lottery is just a fun 'what-if' for me - not a hope, necessity or habit.  Take care of your family & future first before spending money you may not have to spend, on what is essentially a pipe-dream for everyone but the winner.

Not preaching - everyone is individual and will do as they see fit.  Good luck to all of you and God bless each and everyone.

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by Igamble on Feb 8, 2015

Its amazing that players put in an adittional  almost 60mil. $ (394.5 to 450mil) but  only 12mil out of the aditional 60mil  which is about 10%  made a real difference to only 112people total !! 12 got about 1mil each and 100 got 10grand each.

so this draw millions have played and only 112of them  won something significant.that's about 0.0005%winners of 10grand+5/0 match  for this draw if we put 5million players !!

the rest of them got fooled again  like me Wink,

Sounds like you've been playing a long time and not winning big so how could you have been fooled again?  Did you expect this time to be different? Unhappy

I'm in the same boat but the only thing that would surprise me is that I win a nice prize. Wink

Nino224's avatarNino224

Todd, what's your plan Thursday morning when you realize you have the only winning ticket?

  1. Lump sum or annuity?
  2. Who are you hiring? Lawyers, financial advisors, rabbi, judo coach?
  3. If your state doesn't allow anonymity, do you send a hired gun to collect or are you giving a press conference?
Theox-'s avatarTheox-

Pro Tip:

Buy your ticket(s) early. This 450 million jackpot is going to attract long lines at lottery retailers. There probably won't be too many people buying tickets today or tomorrow.

PrinceRene

Quote: Originally posted by Theox- on Feb 8, 2015

Pro Tip:

Buy your ticket(s) early. This 450 million jackpot is going to attract long lines at lottery retailers. There probably won't be too many people buying tickets today or tomorrow.

yeah get to the store early, you don't want to end up like this guy https://www.lotterypost.com/news/285551

"Canadian man loses $27 million lottery jackpot by 7 seconds"

easygoing123go

Let it roll, $600,000,000.00 is the number it will roll too.......Smile

majestic1070's avatarmajestic1070

My birthday is on the 11th of February so instead of a birthday bash I'm thinking of a lotto bash.

HaveABall's avatarHaveABall

It's best to make that a way-belated birthday bash, majestic1070, as it could take 45 days to receive the electronic transfer into your checking account, after you've officially claimed the win!

 Jack-in-the-Box

TnTicketlosers's avatarTnTicketlosers

My husband and I are spending the weekend in Kentucky next weekend,cant wait to play the Lottery.So excited.Wish us luck in another state....

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by Theox- on Feb 8, 2015

Pro Tip:

Buy your ticket(s) early. This 450 million jackpot is going to attract long lines at lottery retailers. There probably won't be too many people buying tickets today or tomorrow.

Don't have to worry about that in my area, they is a lottery retailer for every 1500-2000 players.  Not like before PB was sold locally and I have to travel over the state line to buy a ticket.  Last night I bought my tickets about 9:50PM, ten minutes before cut-off time and I was the old customer at the drive-thur.

PrinceRene

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Feb 8, 2015

Don't have to worry about that in my area, they is a lottery retailer for every 1500-2000 players.  Not like before PB was sold locally and I have to travel over the state line to buy a ticket.  Last night I bought my tickets about 9:50PM, ten minutes before cut-off time and I was the old customer at the drive-thur.

"I was the old customer at the drive-thur."

Don't sell your self short, RJ. You're that old. Smile

rcbbuckeye's avatarrcbbuckeye

Quote: Originally posted by jack27 on Feb 8, 2015

We are all already know whats going to happen. As usual we are going to see and old lady or an old man or some rich folk who already have million of dollar came forward to claim the prize. Whoever dont know this before must be slow or something. I still believing the lottery was design to make the rich get richer and the poor people living at the bottom to get poorer.

WHEN you can explain how some mysterious lottery person can arrange for a rich old lady or old man win,and the lottery is designed to make the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, THEN you will have the credibility to make such a statement.

UNTIL such time, you are simply blowing smoke out your a$$.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by dpoly1 on Feb 8, 2015

Ima going to get my ticket!

Ah the simple pleasures of life .................

Dpoly now THAT is a gorgeous car.  Hmmmmmm may have to add a car to my planned one car and a truck thoughts.  White Bentley, how very pretty.  All it needs is to have a white interior.

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by PrinceRene on Feb 8, 2015

"I was the old customer at the drive-thur."

Don't sell your self short, RJ. You're that old. Smile

I just reread my post and the words I thought weren't there.  They was in the place of there and old was in the place of only.  I should start checking my posts for the correct words and spelling.

Goteki54's avatarGoteki54

POWERBALL MEGA JACKPOT FRENZY 2015!!!Banana

ME WINNING IT 2015!!!Banana

maximumfun's avatarmaximumfun

500M$ by Wednesday - 5 winners - 100M$ each - after taxes and other expenses (tithe, state, professional fees) 25M$.  I think I could make do with 25M$.  It might be tight... but I would be willing to suffer in silence.

myturn's avatarmyturn

If you win, get a good lawyer first before you contact the lottery. Maybe a good accountant would also be helpfull.

christina1992

how many tickets did you buy? i bought 3. dont need alot cus many ppl buying with this frenzy

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

I will be buying PB tickets in 4 different states for this drawing. Never done that before so that could be a lucky omen.

christina1992

okay i have another question. if i win, i would rather not move. id love to stay in my neighborhood. would tht even be possible?

Goteki54's avatarGoteki54

Before you even contact the lawyer the first and most important thing is to MAKE SEVERAL COPIES OF THE TICKET!! Then hire a lawyer followed by moving out of your house and into a hotel or whatever if you are in state where you have to come forth publicly to claim your prize. At least here in Maryland, winners can remain anonymous so I could stay in my house, but hell I'm out of here and this state if I win!Cool

nina09

Quote: Originally posted by christina1992 on Feb 8, 2015

okay i have another question. if i win, i would rather not move. id love to stay in my neighborhood. would tht even be possible?

You can live anywhere you want too. I think a lot of winner would love to do that but as soon as their identity becomes public knowledge to be able to live in peace they have to move.   If you have pretty chill neighbors or a extremely safe neighborhood with a pretty strict access control then it would be easier I guess.

 If I win I don't need to move because I live in P.R and the winner are kept a secret , but I would move because I live in a small home 10 minutes from the beach and I want to move to be in walking distance. 

I'm going to another city so I'm going to get a ticket over there and maybe if I have time and change a ticket in my city. I wont get more than 2 tickets.

delS

Quote: Originally posted by Goteki54 on Feb 8, 2015

Before you even contact the lawyer the first and most important thing is to MAKE SEVERAL COPIES OF THE TICKET!! Then hire a lawyer followed by moving out of your house and into a hotel or whatever if you are in state where you have to come forth publicly to claim your prize. At least here in Maryland, winners can remain anonymous so I could stay in my house, but hell I'm out of here and this state if I win!Cool

Whether you live in a state that allows you to remain anonymous or not, these are some suggestions I'd offer to everyone:

  1. Pray and seek God's guidance.
  2. Keep the news of your good fortune to a tight knit small number of people
  3. Have ideas/a plan of your own, until your professional team is assembled
  4. Get a copy of the book, Strangers in Paradise, by James Grubman, Ph.d, awesome book that gives sound advice to those who have never lived in Paradise - IN WEALTH. Anyone winning this amount pretty much will be strangers in Paradise/Wealth
  5. Hire an Atty.
  6. Hire an accountant
  7. Hire a Wealth Management firm, with this amount, go for a Multi-Family Office. Northern Trust, Bessemer Trust, Atlantic Trust, US Trust, Genspring Financial, etc., etc., etc.
  8. Hire a top flight security firm to put in place a security plan
  9. Give your self a Spending Free Zone of at least 90 days after the transfer, where you are working with your entire team to put your life plan in place.
Jace2014's avatarJace2014

time to buy my one ticket and win it all Cool

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Feb 8, 2015

WHEN you can explain how some mysterious lottery person can arrange for a rich old lady or old man win,and the lottery is designed to make the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, THEN you will have the credibility to make such a statement.

UNTIL such time, you are simply blowing smoke out your a$$.

I Agree!...More or less like these fella's below.

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Quote: Originally posted by delS on Feb 8, 2015

Whether you live in a state that allows you to remain anonymous or not, these are some suggestions I'd offer to everyone:

  1. Pray and seek God's guidance.
  2. Keep the news of your good fortune to a tight knit small number of people
  3. Have ideas/a plan of your own, until your professional team is assembled
  4. Get a copy of the book, Strangers in Paradise, by James Grubman, Ph.d, awesome book that gives sound advice to those who have never lived in Paradise - IN WEALTH. Anyone winning this amount pretty much will be strangers in Paradise/Wealth
  5. Hire an Atty.
  6. Hire an accountant
  7. Hire a Wealth Management firm, with this amount, go for a Multi-Family Office. Northern Trust, Bessemer Trust, Atlantic Trust, US Trust, Genspring Financial, etc., etc., etc.
  8. Hire a top flight security firm to put in place a security plan
  9. Give your self a Spending Free Zone of at least 90 days after the transfer, where you are working with your entire team to put your life plan in place.

A SECURITY FIRM? Come on, now....Crazy.

First, if you live in a state where you can remain anonymous...you can remain anonymous.

Otherwise, agree you have to be extremely careful, but how many major JP winners over the years, even with their names made public, have had genuine security issues, at least ones that made headlines? 

Not many. After a period of time, the winning names get forgotten or at least put on the shelf until the next huge JP winner comes along.

christina1992

i live in illinois, 45 mins from glendale heights where the last mega millions winner won. a gas station enployee i go to says couple customers told him that person has gone missing and r looking. or they could be hiding idk who knows now

IPlayWeekly's avatarIPlayWeekly

I live in an anonymous state so you guys won't know when I win

delS

Many sad endings to the lives of JP Winners are not from people who found them via the news.  Most of the tragic and sad endings happen because of friends and family who want more than what you may be willing to give. Most of what Ive seen that has been shocking has been spouses, children, and/or other family members.

Teddi's avatarTeddi

Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Feb 8, 2015

A SECURITY FIRM? Come on, now....Crazy.

First, if you live in a state where you can remain anonymous...you can remain anonymous.

Otherwise, agree you have to be extremely careful, but how many major JP winners over the years, even with their names made public, have had genuine security issues, at least ones that made headlines? 

Not many. After a period of time, the winning names get forgotten or at least put on the shelf until the next huge JP winner comes along.

Actually, quite a few have received threats, especially when the number is high. Many of them have had to get the police involved because the threats were that serious. The Morrisons hired a security detail to stay with everyone in their immediate family in the week after their names were announced. I can think of 2 winners off the bat who had to get the FBI involved. There are a lot of greedy wackos out there who wouldn't think twice about killing someone for their lottery winnings.

Teddi's avatarTeddi

Quote: Originally posted by delS on Feb 8, 2015

Whether you live in a state that allows you to remain anonymous or not, these are some suggestions I'd offer to everyone:

  1. Pray and seek God's guidance.
  2. Keep the news of your good fortune to a tight knit small number of people
  3. Have ideas/a plan of your own, until your professional team is assembled
  4. Get a copy of the book, Strangers in Paradise, by James Grubman, Ph.d, awesome book that gives sound advice to those who have never lived in Paradise - IN WEALTH. Anyone winning this amount pretty much will be strangers in Paradise/Wealth
  5. Hire an Atty.
  6. Hire an accountant
  7. Hire a Wealth Management firm, with this amount, go for a Multi-Family Office. Northern Trust, Bessemer Trust, Atlantic Trust, US Trust, Genspring Financial, etc., etc., etc.
  8. Hire a top flight security firm to put in place a security plan
  9. Give your self a Spending Free Zone of at least 90 days after the transfer, where you are working with your entire team to put your life plan in place.

I was with you right up to #9. And if this were a smaller jackpot, I'd probably agree. But since the after taxes take home amount will be knocking on the door of $200 million, a person could go on a shopping spree and not make a dent. I will be closing on (if not already moved into) my new and wonderful house within 30-60 days of that money hitting my bank account. A luxury car and an SUV will be in the garage and some new clothes will be in the closet. I think that may touch on 3-5%. I will be cautious and conservative with the rest of the money, but I will absolutely be splurging on the things I want (but don't need) within that 90 days. After that, I'll have the rest of my life to be careful and cautious with the remaining 95%.

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by Drenick1 on Feb 8, 2015

I will be buying PB tickets in 4 different states for this drawing. Never done that before so that could be a lucky omen.

Have a Season Tikcet from Massachusetts, have a ticket from Indiana, got some from the casino in Ohio today and more Kentucky ones and the way home.  So be both have tickets from four different states!

mikeintexas's avatarmikeintexas

Quote: Originally posted by delS on Feb 8, 2015

Many sad endings to the lives of JP Winners are not from people who found them via the news.  Most of the tragic and sad endings happen because of friends and family who want more than what you may be willing to give. Most of what Ive seen that has been shocking has been spouses, children, and/or other family members.

^This = Truth

Bleudog101

Quote: Originally posted by dallascowboyfan on Feb 8, 2015

It took us two days to drive from Anchorage( Ft. Richardson) to Seattle we left Friday night and arrived Sunday night on our way to Ft. Stewart Ga.

Cool...being retired Army I'm so glad to read about your endeavours.  Good luck to you and Go Army!!

delS

SmileSmileWink

I hear you.  For me personally, I want to have some things in order, and I dont want my spending to announce my status too soon.  But I understand we all will employ different strategies.

maximumfun's avatarmaximumfun

Quote: Originally posted by delS on Feb 8, 2015

SmileSmileWink

I hear you.  For me personally, I want to have some things in order, and I dont want my spending to announce my status too soon.  But I understand we all will employ different strategies.

day 0 - wednesday 2/11 = win

day 1 - wake up with severe hang-over - step over most of friends/family - look frantically for winning ticket.

day 2 - fill prescriptions for no-panic-attack medicines - call CPA and start arranging 'team'

day 3 - take 'team' down to lottery headquarters and redeem ticket

day 4 - answer 100th phone call from lost friends and shirt-tail relatives.  yank phone from wall

day 5 - let phone repair man into home to fix wiring.  finish packing for last-minute vacation with family.

day 6 - board airlines in economy (money hasnt hit our accounts yet - all we can afford with 7 immediate family at last minute is economy)

day 7 - wander around Disney World waiting for money to hit.

days 8 - 32 - run out of money in Florida - staying at an econo lodge while frantically checking to see if money has hit.

day 33 - money hits!  pass out - hitting head while fainting and recovering in ER... ut oh... now everyone knows my name down here too!

day 34 - throw all clothing and suitcases away and go on impromptu shopping trip - spend WAAAAYYY too much money.

day 35+ - caution is thrown to the wind.  tutors hired for children and g. children.  yacht chartered for month long trip *while humming Gilligans Island theme song*

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by IPlayWeekly on Feb 8, 2015

I live in an anonymous state so you guys won't know when I win

l get the funny feeling that we wont have to wait long to find out Big Smile... you will announce it for all to hear. After-all, you telling us that you " Play Weekly". l am betting that NOBODY asked you for that information prior to setting up your account, or did they?Approve

glisit3000

man I win and I'm gone... ...moving out the country asap. I'll talk to my family like I do now ,on the phone and every couple of months. I'll happily take the problems and "burden" of having to much money..

noise-gate

Quote: Originally posted by glisit3000 on Feb 8, 2015

man I win and I'm gone... ...moving out the country asap. I'll talk to my family like I do now ,on the phone and every couple of months. I'll happily take the problems and "burden" of having to much money..

Oh Yeah?- going to move out of the country, refuse to see faces of your loved ones up close and personal, no real hugs or kisses? Lets do that on Skype ...over Money? No Thank You ..glisit3000.

En ReVal

That was funny--You would have to have someone close--Family do get mad over money.  Mom and niece already have my money spent---NOT. It would be nice to know the Wisconsin mathematical equation.

maximumfun's avatarmaximumfun

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Feb 8, 2015

Oh Yeah?- going to move out of the country, refuse to see faces of your loved ones up close and personal, no real hugs or kisses? Lets do that on Skype ...over Money? No Thank You ..glisit3000.

hmm... Portugal would be alright... i could end up there.  Or Italy - I always liked the idea of living in a country shaped like a boot. 

but i would take the family with me.  and we would all learn portugalese or Italch - you know - the local dialects done with bad American-accents.

Piaceri

Quote: Originally posted by Teddi on Feb 8, 2015

I was with you right up to #9. And if this were a smaller jackpot, I'd probably agree. But since the after taxes take home amount will be knocking on the door of $200 million, a person could go on a shopping spree and not make a dent. I will be closing on (if not already moved into) my new and wonderful house within 30-60 days of that money hitting my bank account. A luxury car and an SUV will be in the garage and some new clothes will be in the closet. I think that may touch on 3-5%. I will be cautious and conservative with the rest of the money, but I will absolutely be splurging on the things I want (but don't need) within that 90 days. After that, I'll have the rest of my life to be careful and cautious with the remaining 95%.

I completely agree. You have to give yourself some 'blow' money to celebrate. Plus a new place to live and an upgrade in vehicle.

 

For those states that insist on the publicity.. would they delay the announcement/news conf/etc until funds were confirmed in your bank? Especially for those who have nothing to draw on to escape the crazies, no place to go, no funds to go into hiding. For someone in that situation, it would be like the attack of the living dead..

PrinceRene

I was expecting to see more pictures of cars and houses in this thread. Wink

alexnt55

Players did not put in an additional almost 60 million for the drawing. You are looking at what the annuity value was at the drawing time for last nights drawing was 394.5 mill and at what they are now putting up as the annuity value is for the next drawing 450 mill which it will be much higher then that as they always put up a low number and it will be much higher then 450 mill by Wed drawing. Ticket sales for last nights drawing were actually 146 mill so those 112 tickets totaled 12907448. That would come out to about 8.8%. If they sold 146 mill in tickets that would be 73 mill lines sold at $2 a line. Different people spend different amounts so it would be impossibe to know how many people actually bought tickets so you were basing your numbers on 5 million people and it was probably more because if it was 5 mill people that would come out to almost $30 a person. Of course there are a lot of people who will spend $30 or more on tickets but an awful lot of people who only buy 1 or 2 lines. might make your 0.0005% a bit on the high side

ttech10's avatarttech10

Quote: Originally posted by PrinceRene on Feb 8, 2015

I was expecting to see more pictures of cars and houses in this thread. Wink

Am I doing it right?

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by christina1992 on Feb 8, 2015

okay i have another question. if i win, i would rather not move. id love to stay in my neighborhood. would tht even be possible?

Why not?  You can afford to buy another house maybe a vacation home somewhere else ready if you ever want a change of scenery.

LottoMetro's avatarLottoMetro

Quote: Originally posted by christina1992 on Feb 8, 2015

okay i have another question. if i win, i would rather not move. id love to stay in my neighborhood. would tht even be possible?

Simple. Buy all the houses in your neighborhood.

LottoMetro's avatarLottoMetro

Quote: Originally posted by alexnt55 on Feb 8, 2015

Players did not put in an additional almost 60 million for the drawing. You are looking at what the annuity value was at the drawing time for last nights drawing was 394.5 mill and at what they are now putting up as the annuity value is for the next drawing 450 mill which it will be much higher then that as they always put up a low number and it will be much higher then 450 mill by Wed drawing. Ticket sales for last nights drawing were actually 146 mill so those 112 tickets totaled 12907448. That would come out to about 8.8%. If they sold 146 mill in tickets that would be 73 mill lines sold at $2 a line. Different people spend different amounts so it would be impossibe to know how many people actually bought tickets so you were basing your numbers on 5 million people and it was probably more because if it was 5 mill people that would come out to almost $30 a person. Of course there are a lot of people who will spend $30 or more on tickets but an awful lot of people who only buy 1 or 2 lines. might make your 0.0005% a bit on the high side

The actual cash for last night's drawing was $266.8 million, which is a difference of about $10 million from the advertised. The difference between projected and actual sales was about $35.6 million (if sales figures are correct). As far as how many transactions feature X amount, that info is known but internal vendor use only. It's not really useful for practical purposes. Most players don't start spending more than a few dollars until the jackpot is near record territory.

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by ttech10 on Feb 8, 2015

Am I doing it right?

Green laughhahaha...

HaveABall's avatarHaveABall

Or maybe move into a new neighborhood in San Diego ... that offers something similar to this entrance gate with a bigger staffed security structure 24/7.

Entrance to the Paradise Village Grand Marina Villas, Nuevo Vallarta ...

PrinceRene

Quote: Originally posted by HaveABall on Feb 8, 2015

Or maybe move into a new neighborhood in San Diego ... that offers something similar to this entrance gate with a bigger staffed security structure 24/7.

Entrance to the Paradise Village Grand Marina Villas, Nuevo Vallarta ...

You don't need to move to SD for an entrance gate like this. They are all over the country. Just google search "Guard Gated Communities" 

Technut's avatarTechnut

Quote: Originally posted by banter on Feb 8, 2015

@jack27, this is true for the simple fact that those who can least afford to gamble/play the lottery are those that spend the most.  I'm not rich, or particularly what I would call well-off so, I only buy ONE ticket (usually with power-up option) per drawing when the jackpot gets BIG.  I can comfortably afford to lose (in probability) my $2-3 per ticket.  I do not, however, spend my whole paycheck or even a large(r) portion on the lottery.  That way lies madness.

I, like many, have a child to put through college somehow, not to mention I would like to be able to retire and not have to work well into my 70s-80s and beyond.  The lottery is just a fun 'what-if' for me - not a hope, necessity or habit.  Take care of your family & future first before spending money you may not have to spend, on what is essentially a pipe-dream for everyone but the winner.

Not preaching - everyone is individual and will do as they see fit.  Good luck to all of you and God bless each and everyone.

 I Agree! with you on this fact. anyone who plays the lottery should only play with money they can afford to lose. since the odd are stacked against them to begin with and yes i do play sometimes myself but never with money i can't afford to lose.

rundown99's avatarrundown99

The closest I have been to winning a jackpot was in 2003 when I matched 3 white balls and the red powerball and won $100.  That ticket was a quick pick.  With the odds of winning the powerball being 1 in 175,223,510, I honestly think that if I ever won the jackpot, it would be a quick pick.  I haven't played the lottery in years, but I would focus on playing in a state where I could be anonymous.  Honestly, I would rather not win anything and live a normal life than win millions of dollars and have everyone just use me.

glisit3000

Quote: Originally posted by noise-gate on Feb 8, 2015

Oh Yeah?- going to move out of the country, refuse to see faces of your loved ones up close and personal, no real hugs or kisses? Lets do that on Skype ...over Money? No Thank You ..glisit3000.

nah not like that. You shouldn't be so quick to assume. I wouldn't hypothetically abandon family members over money. My family live 7 hours away I see them once a year if that and talk to them every couple of months. Not on Skype either. We have no relationship.

have my kids who live with me but yes I would be gone in a minute with my kids... It's nice to dream.

 

Good luck to everyone on this site...

Tinker

Quote: Originally posted by Teddi on Feb 8, 2015

Actually, quite a few have received threats, especially when the number is high. Many of them have had to get the police involved because the threats were that serious. The Morrisons hired a security detail to stay with everyone in their immediate family in the week after their names were announced. I can think of 2 winners off the bat who had to get the FBI involved. There are a lot of greedy wackos out there who wouldn't think twice about killing someone for their lottery winnings.

The wackos think you carry all that in cash with you. Mr. Smith & Wesson will take care of them.

Get paid's avatarGet paid

Ok my lottery post buddies,lets do this: $2:00 maybe 3 an a dream. I hope the money Gods r looking down on me.

Gleno's avatarGleno

Todd,

Thanks for the brake down on the lower prizes that were won on 2/7/15 in the other states.

Like the pari-mutuel payout in California.

Coffee

Todd's avatarTodd

USA Mega has all this information.  Click the Powerball Drawing Detail link in the Powerball news story after each drawing.

Gleno's avatarGleno

Todd,

Thanks again for the info, see from the site that that N.J. players pay 3% with holding tax on their winning and the federal with holding is 25%.

It might pay to keep those losing tickets in the event of a significant prize, to write off as an "expense" .

Coffee

surimaribo24's avatarsurimaribo24

let the excitement begin .. precict over 500 mill by Wednesday . 

goodluck players

RedStang's avatarRedStang

Quote: Originally posted by Tinker on Feb 9, 2015

The wackos think you carry all that in cash with you. Mr. Smith & Wesson will take care of them.

I Agree! You're first purchase should be a gun and you're second purchase should be the bullets.

dpoly1's avatardpoly1

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Feb 8, 2015

Dpoly now THAT is a gorgeous car.  Hmmmmmm may have to add a car to my planned one car and a truck thoughts.  White Bentley, how very pretty.  All it needs is to have a white interior.

2014 Rolls Phantom

dpoly1's avatardpoly1

Quote: Originally posted by PrinceRene on Feb 8, 2015

I was expecting to see more pictures of cars and houses in this thread. Wink

On 7.4 Acres for $1,300,000 near where I live!

jack27

Quote: Originally posted by lejardin on Feb 8, 2015

Dpoly now THAT is a gorgeous car.  Hmmmmmm may have to add a car to my planned one car and a truck thoughts.  White Bentley, how very pretty.  All it needs is to have a white interior.

C'mon dude you know its true. Imma say it asomThe majority of the big jackpot winners are always some old man or an old woman or some type of greedy a$$ rich folk who are already worth million on their own. For example, Jack Whitaker ang Gloria Mckenzy. Now u dig?...lol

Piaceri

Quote: Originally posted by jack27 on Feb 9, 2015

C'mon dude you know its true. Imma say it asomThe majority of the big jackpot winners are always some old man or an old woman or some type of greedy a$$ rich folk who are already worth million on their own. For example, Jack Whitaker ang Gloria Mckenzy. Now u dig?...lol

No Pity! Troll. 

 

There are any number of jackpot winners that are 1) not rich 2) not old. I'm surprised you didn't throw in 'white'. smh 

 

Don't like it? Don't play.

maringoman's avatarmaringoman

Quote: Originally posted by Piaceri on Feb 9, 2015

No Pity! Troll. 

 

There are any number of jackpot winners that are 1) not rich 2) not old. I'm surprised you didn't throw in 'white'. smh 

 

Don't like it? Don't play.

Was it necessary to inject race in your rebuttal? amazing Disapprove

PrinceRene

Quote: Originally posted by ttech10 on Feb 8, 2015

Am I doing it right?

nice!

PrinceRene

"You're first purchase should be a gun and you're second purchase should be the bullets."

I already got that covered.

PrinceRene

Quote: Originally posted by dpoly1 on Feb 9, 2015

On 7.4 Acres for $1,300,000 near where I live!

looks good.

Piaceri

Quote: Originally posted by maringoman on Feb 9, 2015

Was it necessary to inject race in your rebuttal? amazing Disapprove

No, but it usually is "rich old white people".  So I was surprised it was not in there in the first place.  Basically tongue in cheek, so lighten up. Maybe we can give our friend kudos for that.

IPlayWeekly's avatarIPlayWeekly

Quote: Originally posted by dpoly1 on Feb 9, 2015

On 7.4 Acres for $1,300,000 near where I live!

That's a huge house for 1.3, I do like the look

PrinceRene

Quote: Originally posted by Piaceri on Feb 9, 2015

No, but it usually is "rich old white people".  So I was surprised it was not in there in the first place.  Basically tongue in cheek, so lighten up. Maybe we can give our friend kudos for that.

Kudos are yummy.

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by PrinceRene on Feb 9, 2015

Kudos are yummy.

He he he...LOL

dpoly1's avatardpoly1

I am an old white guy .............. this must mean that I am going to win LOL!

Thud

Stack47

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Feb 8, 2015

I just reread my post and the words I thought weren't there.  They was in the place of there and old was in the place of only.  I should start checking my posts for the correct words and spelling.

You're not the only one, but it's just your mind playing a trick on you and no big deal.

Didn't buy any PB tickets, but I was in 3 stores that sell lottery tickets and there was no line in any of them. There probably will be long lines at some of the state line stores selling tickets. Littlefield, Arizona would be an ideal spot for selling Arizona lottery tickets because its located on a 29 mile strip on I-15 between the Nevada and Utah state lines.

christina1992

someone or two people are going to win this weds

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

No frenzy yet Unhappy. What are the chances this will roll one more time?

hearsetrax's avatarhearsetrax

Quote: Originally posted by Original Bey on Feb 9, 2015

No frenzy yet Unhappy. What are the chances this will roll one more time?

tooo cold for frenzy .........

 but that could be a small blessing

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by Original Bey on Feb 9, 2015

No frenzy yet Unhappy. What are the chances this will roll one more time?

There's line up here in Denver.

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

Fingers crossed. If they bump it up by another 50mil or so by noon Tuesday the casual players will toss a couple of bucks in the ring. Poke

gocart1's avatargocart1

Quote: Originally posted by delS on Feb 8, 2015

A lot of lives will be changed by this, hopefully, a lot of good will be done. I suspect it will reach $475,000,000 by Wednesday..........

I'M FINE WITH THATPartyUS FlagParty

delS

Im with you on that.  Im fine with it as well.  I think it may hit $475million by noon tomorrow, and $500million by Wednesday night............good luck.

alexnt55

Quote: Originally posted by Original Bey on Feb 9, 2015

No frenzy yet Unhappy. What are the chances this will roll one more time?

The chances of it rolling once again i guess would depend on the amount of tickets sold for the drawing. The last drawing tickets sales totaled about 146 mill so that would be about 73 mill combinations played. Since the odds are around 175 mill to 1 then if i am figuring this right that would come out to about 42% of the combinations were played. I am sure ticket sales will be higher for this coming drawing. If ticket sales for this drawing were say 250 mill that would be 125 mill combinations played out of 175 mill which would be a little over 70%. That means there would be about a 30% chance of it not being hit. I know that there are some combinations that come up more then once in a drawing but as far as true odds go if they were to have 350 mill in ticket sales then that would mean every combination should be covered. I was looking back on ticket sale history for both PB and MM over the last several years and only noticed 1 time where there were more in ticket sales then in possible combinations and that the JP rolled over. In March of 2012 before they changed the matrix for MM and the odds were not as high as they are now the advertised annuity JP was at 363 mill and the ticket sales were about 191 mill which should have covered all the combinations. No one hit it and it rolled and the JP ended up at 656 mill. Ticket sales for that drawing were 651 mill.

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

Quote: Originally posted by alexnt55 on Feb 9, 2015

The chances of it rolling once again i guess would depend on the amount of tickets sold for the drawing. The last drawing tickets sales totaled about 146 mill so that would be about 73 mill combinations played. Since the odds are around 175 mill to 1 then if i am figuring this right that would come out to about 42% of the combinations were played. I am sure ticket sales will be higher for this coming drawing. If ticket sales for this drawing were say 250 mill that would be 125 mill combinations played out of 175 mill which would be a little over 70%. That means there would be about a 30% chance of it not being hit. I know that there are some combinations that come up more then once in a drawing but as far as true odds go if they were to have 350 mill in ticket sales then that would mean every combination should be covered. I was looking back on ticket sale history for both PB and MM over the last several years and only noticed 1 time where there were more in ticket sales then in possible combinations and that the JP rolled over. In March of 2012 before they changed the matrix for MM and the odds were not as high as they are now the advertised annuity JP was at 363 mill and the ticket sales were about 191 mill which should have covered all the combinations. No one hit it and it rolled and the JP ended up at 656 mill. Ticket sales for that drawing were 651 mill.

Thanks a million for that detailed analysis! I remember that Jackpot vividly and was shocked myself when it wasn't hit.

Casual players seem to demand that the JP reach new heights before they break out into a frenzy. While the cash value is one of the highest, the every day Joe is dazzled by the annuity figure. More than 48 hours left and there's no telling how they will react to the possible bump tomorrow.

That being said, I want this baby to roll!

Teddi's avatarTeddi

Quote: Originally posted by dpoly1 on Feb 9, 2015

I am an old white guy .............. this must mean that I am going to win LOL!

Thud

I'm a relatively young, black female. I guess Dr Sheldon Cooper would say I was attached to another object by an inclined plane wrapped helically around an axis.

Drum Thank you, I'm here all week.

PrinceRene

Quote: Originally posted by Original Bey on Feb 9, 2015

No frenzy yet Unhappy. What are the chances this will roll one more time?

I didn't know they sold PB tickets in the Bahamas. 

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

Quote: Originally posted by PrinceRene on Feb 9, 2015

I didn't know they sold PB tickets in the Bahamas. 

I didn't know that either - lol

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by dpoly1 on Feb 9, 2015

2014 Rolls Phantom

Ohhh ok. Isnt that the new model?  Either way I like it.

lejardin's avatarlejardin

Quote: Originally posted by jack27 on Feb 9, 2015

C'mon dude you know its true. Imma say it asomThe majority of the big jackpot winners are always some old man or an old woman or some type of greedy a$$ rich folk who are already worth million on their own. For example, Jack Whitaker ang Gloria Mckenzy. Now u dig?...lol

Whoa, touch a nerve? 

LottoMetro's avatarLottoMetro

Quote: Originally posted by alexnt55 on Feb 9, 2015

The chances of it rolling once again i guess would depend on the amount of tickets sold for the drawing. The last drawing tickets sales totaled about 146 mill so that would be about 73 mill combinations played. Since the odds are around 175 mill to 1 then if i am figuring this right that would come out to about 42% of the combinations were played. I am sure ticket sales will be higher for this coming drawing. If ticket sales for this drawing were say 250 mill that would be 125 mill combinations played out of 175 mill which would be a little over 70%. That means there would be about a 30% chance of it not being hit. I know that there are some combinations that come up more then once in a drawing but as far as true odds go if they were to have 350 mill in ticket sales then that would mean every combination should be covered. I was looking back on ticket sale history for both PB and MM over the last several years and only noticed 1 time where there were more in ticket sales then in possible combinations and that the JP rolled over. In March of 2012 before they changed the matrix for MM and the odds were not as high as they are now the advertised annuity JP was at 363 mill and the ticket sales were about 191 mill which should have covered all the combinations. No one hit it and it rolled and the JP ended up at 656 mill. Ticket sales for that drawing were 651 mill.

Well, it would be 42% of combinations played IF every ticket was a unique combination. We know this is not the case. There are many duplicates, and the more tickets sold the more duplicates there will be. For 73 million tickets sold we would expect a little more than 13 million duplicates. For the PB record jackpot in 2013 only 80% combinations were sold, despite more than 232 million tickets purchased. Assuming random selection, to cover every combination it would require about a billion tickets.

Anyway, based on my own sales estimate (which is higher than MUSL's forecast at the moment), Wednesday's drawing will likely have about a 45-50% chance of being hit. Not being hit and seeing higher sales would put us into the 97th percentile, which means that less than 3% of the time the game continues rolling over. However, this is not to be confused with the probability of a specific drawing rolling over.

I am in for the next draw (QP) so good luck everyone Smile

mypiemaster's avatarmypiemaster

All it takes, is a $2.00 ticket, with the right six numbers in order and nothing else matters.

tony869

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1 2 3 ? ? ?

Step 1. Print this page and take a pen

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Step 3. Just below you see 6 tickets. Replace each letter code (A-L) with the corresponding number that you entered in the blank spaces from step 1.

Ticket 01 = A B D I J = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 02 = A C G J K = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 03 = B C E K L = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 04 = C D F H I = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 05 = D F H I K = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 06 = E F G H L = __ __ __ __ __


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Trick #2

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Step 1. Print this page and take a pen

Step 2. Write 8 of your favorite numbers (1-59) in the blank spaces (A-H):
A=__ B=__ C=__ D=__ E=__ F=__ G=__ H=__

Step 3. Just below you see 6 tickets. Replace each letter code (A-H) with the corresponding number that you entered in the blank spaces from step 1.

Ticket 01 = A B C D H = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 02 = A B C E F = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 03 = A C D E G = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 04 = A C D F H = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 05 = B C D F G = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 06 = B E F G H = __ __ __ __ __


Step 4. Pick 1 random number between 1 and 35. Add this bonus number to each of the 6 tickets

Your guarantee is …

At least 4 correct numbers if the 5 main numbers drawn are within your selection of 8 favorite numbers

Trick #3

1 2 3 4 5 ?

Step 1. Print this page and take a pen

Step 2. Write 6 of your favorite numbers (1-59) in the blank spaces (A-F):
A=__ B=__ C=__ D=__ E=__ F=__

Step 3. Just below you see 6 tickets. Replace each letter code (A-F) with the corresponding number that you entered in the blank spaces from step 1.

Ticket 01 = A B C D E = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 02 = A B C D F = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 03 = A B C E F = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 04 = A B D E F = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 05 = A C D E F = __ __ __ __ __
Ticket 06 = B C D E F = __ __ __ __ __


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HaveABall's avatarHaveABall

Quote: Originally posted by glisit3000 on Feb 9, 2015

nah not like that. You shouldn't be so quick to assume. I wouldn't hypothetically abandon family members over money. My family live 7 hours away I see them once a year if that and talk to them every couple of months. Not on Skype either. We have no relationship.

have my kids who live with me but yes I would be gone in a minute with my kids... It's nice to dream.

 

Good luck to everyone on this site...

I don't understand how any person (adult or child) can talk/share on the phone with relatives every couple of months and feel that they have no "relationship" with them.

Blush

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

What is my present?

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

jack27,

How about examples like the 19 year old girl in Georgia who won MM the first time she played, or the female corrections officer in NY who thought she played one jackpot game, actually played a different one, and won the jackpot?

zinniagirl's avatarzinniagirl

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Feb 9, 2015

jack27,

How about examples like the 19 year old girl in Georgia who won MM the first time she played, or the female corrections officer in NY who thought she played one jackpot game, actually played a different one, and won the jackpot?

Or female prison guard in eastern North Carolina, one of the formal first NC winners....

GoForTheGold

Should I win the jackpot, I think I'll dress as the Left Shark and dance with unmitigated joy and reckless abandon upon receipt of my winnings.

RedStang's avatarRedStang

Quote: Originally posted by Marilyn222 on Feb 9, 2015

There's line up here in Denver.

That line is probably for the other frenzy. Hippy

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Quote: Originally posted by RedStang on Feb 10, 2015

That line is probably for the other frenzy. Hippy

Big Smile

Arrowhead's avatarArrowhead

Anybody at all considering annuity as the way to go here? Before I'm jumped on, didn't say I was...

Poo Nanny's avatarPoo Nanny

Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Feb 10, 2015

Anybody at all considering annuity as the way to go here? Before I'm jumped on, didn't say I was...

There is no need for you to worry about that option. This jackpot is mine come Wednesday

PrinceRene

Quote: Originally posted by RedStang on Feb 10, 2015

That line is probably for the other frenzy. Hippy

Hurray!

jr-va

Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Feb 10, 2015

Anybody at all considering annuity as the way to go here? Before I'm jumped on, didn't say I was...

I would consider it.

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by RedStang on Feb 10, 2015

That line is probably for the other frenzy. Hippy

Probably for Western Union...lolLOL

RJOh's avatarRJOh

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Feb 9, 2015

You're not the only one, but it's just your mind playing a trick on you and no big deal.

Didn't buy any PB tickets, but I was in 3 stores that sell lottery tickets and there was no line in any of them. There probably will be long lines at some of the state line stores selling tickets. Littlefield, Arizona would be an ideal spot for selling Arizona lottery tickets because its located on a 29 mile strip on I-15 between the Nevada and Utah state lines.

I haven't brought any tickets either.  I like to do a little workout before I buy my tickets which is usually about 9:30 PM on drawing night.  If the terminals are down because of bad weather or some other reason then I usually miss out and save some money.

alexnt55

Quote: Originally posted by LottoMetro on Feb 9, 2015

Well, it would be 42% of combinations played IF every ticket was a unique combination. We know this is not the case. There are many duplicates, and the more tickets sold the more duplicates there will be. For 73 million tickets sold we would expect a little more than 13 million duplicates. For the PB record jackpot in 2013 only 80% combinations were sold, despite more than 232 million tickets purchased. Assuming random selection, to cover every combination it would require about a billion tickets.

Anyway, based on my own sales estimate (which is higher than MUSL's forecast at the moment), Wednesday's drawing will likely have about a 45-50% chance of being hit. Not being hit and seeing higher sales would put us into the 97th percentile, which means that less than 3% of the time the game continues rolling over. However, this is not to be confused with the probability of a specific drawing rolling over.

I am in for the next draw (QP) so good luck everyone Smile

For the PB record when there were 232 million tickets purchased there were 80% of the combinations played. How many more tickets do you figure would have needed to be purchased to cover the other the other 20% that were not played ?

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

In 5  hours it will be 500m!!!

Teddi's avatarTeddi

Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Feb 10, 2015

Anybody at all considering annuity as the way to go here? Before I'm jumped on, didn't say I was...

Maybe. But only if I found out that I'd be able to sell the 29 remaining annuity payments to JG Wentworth or Peachtree and get more than the current cash value. 

LottoMetro's avatarLottoMetro

Quote: Originally posted by alexnt55 on Feb 10, 2015

For the PB record when there were 232 million tickets purchased there were 80% of the combinations played. How many more tickets do you figure would have needed to be purchased to cover the other the other 20% that were not played ?

As I said, the more tickets purchased the more duplicates there are.

From a theoretical standpoint:

  • For 73 million played, we would expect around 13 million duplicates, or 59.7 million uniques.
  • For 232 million played, we would expect around 103.59 million duplicates, or 128.67 million uniques. The actual number of duplicates for the 2013 record PB jackpot was about 92 million (a difference of about 10 million), which left 140 million uniques. So player selection does skew the numbers.
  • For 464 million played, we would expect around 272 million duplicates, or 160 million uniques.
  • For 928 million played, we would expect around 753.6 million duplicates, or 174.3 milllion uniques. Still not all of them!

Even if you add a 10 million margin of error due to player choice it would take close to a billion tickets to cover all possible combinations. From the random selection standpoint, to cover the remaining 20% of combinations would basically be the difference between 232 million and 1 billion. We're talking random picks here, think about how difficult it would be for a RNG to choose literally every combination. In the real world, as discussed above, player patterns actually skew those calculations.

My guess as to cover the remaining combinations with player choice factored would be around 800 million tickets total, or a difference of 568 million. This assumes that logistics prevent Warren Buffett from purchasing every combination manually Smile

Marilyn222's avatarMarilyn222

Quote: Originally posted by Marilyn222 on Feb 10, 2015

Probably for Western Union...lolLOL

...not for someone else...hehehePoke

IPlayWeekly's avatarIPlayWeekly

There's PB frenzy at my job.  I was just handed a PB betslip by my coworker... Nobody knows how much I play.  I generally play 2 PB lines but I'll play 4 lines total for tomorrow, my own numbers.

Gleno's avatarGleno

IF it rolls over again maybe tempted to just pass it up but also  know that the thrill of playing comes when these jackpots get huge.

Coffee

Gleno's avatarGleno

No harm in getting ticket(s) with an annuity option and some for the cash option.

If you won with the annuity, you be in the money for the long run.

Wink

LottoLucy's avatarLottoLucy

Quote: Originally posted by Arrowhead on Feb 10, 2015

Anybody at all considering annuity as the way to go here? Before I'm jumped on, didn't say I was...

Not for one this huge.  I am more likely to consider the annuity option on a smaller jackpot when the graduated payments would be more than taking out 4% a year from a lump sum.  I base the 4% figure on advice that some experts give to only take 4% a year so you never run out of money.

I would never fault anyone for taking the annuity.  Some people just know themselves well and realize that they are not good with money or lack the will power not to spend it all in the first couple of years.  Others know they have trouble saying no to family and friends.  For them the annuity might be a smart move.

 

Good Luck!

Bleudog101

Up to $485 million now!!

PrinceRene

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Feb 10, 2015

Up to $485 million now!!

Yessss!

PrisonerSix

Quote: Originally posted by Bleudog101 on Feb 10, 2015

Up to $485 million now!!

The actual jackpot will probably be more than that! Come on half billion!

I've got 2 tickets of my own and 3 in a lottery club, maybe we'll finally get lucky.

Original Bey's avatarOriginal Bey

$485m. Seriously? I wonder if we'll see a second bump tomorrow. If not I suspect it will roll over. This is not enough to ignite a frenzy. Casual players like to wait for the last minute

easygoing123go

I was thinking $525 by tomorrow, $700 on Saturday

Drenick1's avatarDrenick1

Quote: Originally posted by Gleno on Feb 10, 2015

No harm in getting ticket(s) with an annuity option and some for the cash option.

If you won with the annuity, you be in the money for the long run.

Wink

The only problems with the annuity is that the overall cash value after all the payments are made will be far less than what the cash value is today and that doesn't even take into account that the payments are progressively weighted.

With the lump sum payout, you only need a 3% annualized return to far exceed the total value of the annuity.

KY Floyd's avatarKY Floyd

Quote: Originally posted by LottoMetro on Feb 10, 2015

As I said, the more tickets purchased the more duplicates there are.

From a theoretical standpoint:

  • For 73 million played, we would expect around 13 million duplicates, or 59.7 million uniques.
  • For 232 million played, we would expect around 103.59 million duplicates, or 128.67 million uniques. The actual number of duplicates for the 2013 record PB jackpot was about 92 million (a difference of about 10 million), which left 140 million uniques. So player selection does skew the numbers.
  • For 464 million played, we would expect around 272 million duplicates, or 160 million uniques.
  • For 928 million played, we would expect around 753.6 million duplicates, or 174.3 milllion uniques. Still not all of them!

Even if you add a 10 million margin of error due to player choice it would take close to a billion tickets to cover all possible combinations. From the random selection standpoint, to cover the remaining 20% of combinations would basically be the difference between 232 million and 1 billion. We're talking random picks here, think about how difficult it would be for a RNG to choose literally every combination. In the real world, as discussed above, player patterns actually skew those calculations.

My guess as to cover the remaining combinations with player choice factored would be around 800 million tickets total, or a difference of 568 million. This assumes that logistics prevent Warren Buffett from purchasing every combination manually Smile

My spreadsheet uses simple iterations of selling 175,223.51 tickets (0.1% of the number of combinations) to calculate the number of combinations in play. Since it only calculates an increased chance of duplicates after selling each additional 175,223 tickets it should slightly overestimate the number of combinations sold, but the error is very small. It indicates that selling a billion tickets would result in 99.67% of combinations being sold if all tickets were random. I expect that the QP percentage increases as sales volume increases, since casual players are less likely to choose their own numbers, so I figure that 99.67% figure is very close to reality if sales actually reached a billion. That leaves only a 0.33% chance of a rollover (conveniently close to 1 in 1000). That's a very small chance, but it's still significantly different than zero.

As a purely theoretical exercise in random probability, sales would have to be about 3.33 billion before there's less than one unsold combination.

Any chance you've seen any reliable data on how many tickets use combinations that are obviously not random? I'm sure that at typical sales volumes birthday combinations represent somewhat more than the 3% of combinations they represent. As a practical matter all tickets with 5 consecutive numbers and the corresponding 6th power ball are non-random, as are obvious patterns. Many years ago the NY lottery ran ads saying that close to 10,000 lotto players used each of the diagonal patterns starting at the top corners of the bet slip. Extrapolating that to multi-state games, the diagonals could easily account for more than 100,000 duplicated combinations. For sales of 10 or 15 million tickets early in a run the non-random tickets could significantly increase the chance of a rollover. Once sales reach 100 million tickets I expect that just using the calculated probabilities is very close to the actual chance.

bern117's avatarbern117

Quote: Originally posted by dpoly1 on Feb 8, 2015

Ima going to get my ticket!

Ah the simple pleasures of life .................

This along side a Maseratti Quattroport.

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